<div dir="ltr">And that is why I leave software to the smart people... :)<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks Jim!</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Lee</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 11:17 PM, Jim Duuuude <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:telesistant@hotmail.com" target="_blank">telesistant@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div dir="ltr">Just throwing this out there... wouldn't it be possible (trivial?) to configure the PIC (firmware) for 10MHz external clock, and replace the 9.6MHz crystal with 10MHz in from a GPSDO?
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Sam Skolfield <span dir="ltr">
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>From my understanding as well as many others, simulcasting WON'T work properly in overlap areas unless you replace the RTCM's internal 9.6MHz crystal with a GPSDO 9.6MHz @3.3 volts p-p. If you expect a cheap 9.6MHz crystal to derive a 1PPS signal and stabilize
it between clock pulses down to a level acceptable for accurate syncing of CTCSS generation, free of intrinsic jitter, you are "optimistic" to say the least.
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Jim Dixon has articulated this before on the email list. Simulcasting with the RTCMS in overlap areas WON'T WORK PROPERLY without this trivial modification. Obviously this requires usage of IDENTICAL equipment at each site. Here is a pointer to an email of
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<i><a href="http://ohnosec.org/pipermail/app_rpt-users/2013-November/007704.html" target="_blank">http://ohnosec.org/pipermail/app_rpt-users/2013-November/007704.html</a><br>
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<div>Jim described a possible future RTCM design with convenient provisions for plugging in external 9.6MHz, but this has not happened.
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 1:04 PM, Jesse Lloyd <span dir="ltr">
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<div>You need both 1 pps and Rx GPS data to the RTCM<br>
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On Jun 4, 2016, at 6:03 PM, Joe Moskalski <<a href="mailto:kc2irv@gmail.com" target="_blank">kc2irv@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>I will be setting up a 2 site UHF simulcast system in the coming months and so far I have only one question to ask. The RTCM manual is a little vague on the GPS part of the setup. Normally, with other types of radio simulcast products (which I am very
familiar with several) all you need to properly time the audio is a 1 pps signal from the GPS reference. The RTCM manual makes mention of the NMEA/TSIP data being connected but does not explicitly say if that serial data is needed or if only the 1 pps is needed
for simulcast operation. From the other simulcast products I have worked with, you set your bulk delay to a value larger then the delay required for the furthest site and the system will adjust. Does the RTCM version of simulcast work the same way? I just
want to be sure because this will determine what type of GPS locked reference oscillator I choose for the project.
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