<html>
<head>
<meta content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"
http-equiv="Content-Type">
</head>
<body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
I don't know what cluster fudge you are referring to. The people
doing the development are communicating. Users are getting their
questions answered. AllStar is not disappearing. I don't know who
decided "not to press on" I don't know what help you want from the
current developers. If you are going to learn to code, go for it.
Download the source. If you have questions about the code, Just ask.<br>
<br>
You seem to think app_rpt HAS to move to a newer version of
Asterisk. Maybe it does. Maybe it needs to be re-thought. Or just
maybe it's working quite well. Over the last year, AllStar has moved
to a current supported Linux distribution. It is now on multiple
hardware platforms. New drivers are being deployed. New hardware is
being supported. New gateways are being designed and built. <br>
<br>
A lot of us have spent time and energy to document the existing
programs and configurations. Your complaint with the "old school
mail list" is that there are no attachments. Maybe the place we
discuss is not the place for the files. GIT and SVN do a great job
of version control and collaboration. Videos are fine to show
something to a new user but it does nothing to convey the hard
information they need to edit configurations and get a feature
going. I sure don't learn from a shaky camera and someone droning on
for 15 minutes to find out they never cover my question. Building
multiple places to discuss a project does not help move anything
forward. It just make it harder to find a answer. If you need a ego
boost by starting a forum, fine. More power to you. <br>
<br>
Anytime someone disagrees, you are "stepping on toes" I'm here to
tell you, you are not stepping on toes. You spout words that sound
good but you don't know what it takes to do something. <br>
<br>
I wish you well in your efforts. I hope I did not step on your toes.<br>
<br>
I'm sure some people will disagree with parts or all of what I have
to say. This is just how I feel.<br>
<br>
73, Steve N4IRS <br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 07/14/2016 08:07 PM, Loren Tedford
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote
cite="mid:CAK=eTyjqrVgo912NaOLuTNNPUC8BCGdZj7fW8W3kwj2H3=roVA@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">Ah interesting.. Yea I decided to start this up
after the other day.. All i am trying to is bring some i don't
know organization to a cluster fudge.. maybe some video
tutorials etc.. We really gotta help out the new comers other
wise they get frustrated and give up etc.. The other side of the
flip coin is I am personally going to try and learn how to
code.. Whether i get help from the already current developers or
not I will continue on.. I can't set back and watch some thing
as good as this disappear before our eyes because we decide not
to press on..
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Kinda like the ham IPs lol no one knows about them today
but back when they layed out ip addresses they left open ips
for hams to use but very few have ever used em.. Kinda sad
really but if we do not organize some where and we do not
press forward with development then we become stagnant.. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Sorry if i stepped on any toes regarding the building of it
Just trying to help out the best i know how..</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Meanwhile back to the you tube videos and learning c++ If i
have to i will rebuilding the silly thing from the ground up
lol.. I hope not.. I really hope some where along the line
this grows interest and we can get the ball moving and at
least have a projected path with in 2 years..</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all">
<div>
<div class="gmail_signature"
data-smartmail="gmail_signature">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>
<div dir="ltr">
<div style="font-size:small;font-family:arial">Loren
Tedford (KC9ZHV) </div>
<div style="font-size:small;font-family:arial">Phone:</div>
<div style="font-size:small"><font face="arial">Fax: </font><br>
<font face="arial">Email: </font><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:lorentedford@gmail.com"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-family:arial"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:lorentedford@gmail.com">lorentedford@gmail.com</a></a></div>
<div style="font-size:small">Email: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:KC9ZHV@KC9ZHV.com"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:KC9ZHV@KC9ZHV.com">KC9ZHV@KC9ZHV.com</a></a></div>
<div style="font-size:small;font-family:arial"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.lorentedford.com/"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.lorentedford.com">http://www.lorentedford.com</a></a></div>
<div style="font-size:small;font-family:arial"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.kc9zhv.com/"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.kc9zhv.com">http://www.kc9zhv.com</a></a></div>
<div style="font-size:small;font-family:arial"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://forum.kc9zhv.com/"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://forum.kc9zhv.com">http://forum.kc9zhv.com</a></a></div>
<div style="font-size:small;font-family:arial"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://hub.kc9zhv.com/"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://hub.kc9zhv.com">http://hub.kc9zhv.com</a></a></div>
<div style="font-size:small"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ltcraft.net/"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://Ltcraft.net">http://Ltcraft.net</a><span></span><span></span></a></div>
<div style="font-size:small"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://voipham.com"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://voipham.com">http://voipham.com</a></a></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 6:59 PM,
Corey Dean <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:n3fe@repeater.net" target="_blank">n3fe@repeater.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="auto">
<div>Scott n3xcc had already stated there is a forum
that can be used and it is already setup and running.
I don't remember the address of the top of my head but
it doesn't make much sense to have another one that is
already there and not getting used.<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div>
<div class="h5">
<div><br>
On Jul 14, 2016, at 7:22 PM, Loren Tedford <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:lorentedford@gmail.com"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:lorentedford@gmail.com">lorentedford@gmail.com</a></a>>
wrote:<br>
<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>
<div dir="ltr">
<div>Greetings app_rpt I have decided to try
and start a forum with easily searchable
titles etc.. In the forum if i get a chance
or anyone else they can add you tube
videos..</div>
<div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://voipham.com" target="_blank">voipham.com</a></div>
<div>I know its very basic and blah.. But it
belongs to everyone.. I understand if you
don't want to use it because its not an
official allstarlink project or what ever..
I am hosting it on one of my web servers its
no biggy here and if we can get progress out
of our group i call it a success..</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I have shot the idea around to a couple
of forums where i hang out about allstarlnk
or app_rpt development in regards to what it
would take to bring us at least some
security patches and maybe even if we could
update to a newer version.. I will post
anything we come across that might be
helpful here still in the mailing list but
have decided to use the forum primarily this
gives everyone a fighting chance and keeps
the app_rpt open for what ever it might be
needed for..</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Here is my thoughts so far as far as in
the development side.. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>1. Do we continue using asterisk as it is
and just make program side modifications to
secure it..</div>
<div>2. What is our goal in two years? </div>
<div>3. How long can we operate the way we are
on asterisk 1.4.23?</div>
<div>4. Does newer versions work with
raspberry pies?</div>
<div>5. How much time if any is anyone willing
to donate to working on this project?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Anything I get I will post here as soon
as know anything.. At this point i am not
turning down any help to starting this
project backup I will use any suggestion
whether your a ham or not.. I think the goal
now is stability and maintaining what we
got.. Our future goal should be whether we
go down the path with asterisk or just
design some thing with in the app_rpt that
will connect up with asterisk systems..</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Just my two cents.. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<br clear="all">
<div>
<div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>
<div dir="ltr">
<div
style="font-size:small;font-family:arial">Loren
Tedford (KC9ZHV) </div>
<div
style="font-size:small;font-family:arial">Phone:</div>
<div style="font-size:small"><font
face="arial">Fax: </font><br>
<font face="arial">Email: </font><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:lorentedford@gmail.com"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-family:arial" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:lorentedford@gmail.com">lorentedford@gmail.com</a></a></div>
<div style="font-size:small">Email: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:KC9ZHV@KC9ZHV.com"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204)"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:KC9ZHV@KC9ZHV.com">KC9ZHV@KC9ZHV.com</a></a></div>
<div
style="font-size:small;font-family:arial"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.lorentedford.com/"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204)"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.lorentedford.com">http://www.lorentedford.com</a></a></div>
<div
style="font-size:small;font-family:arial"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.kc9zhv.com/"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204)"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.kc9zhv.com">http://www.kc9zhv.com</a></a></div>
<div
style="font-size:small;font-family:arial"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://forum.kc9zhv.com/"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204)"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://forum.kc9zhv.com">http://forum.kc9zhv.com</a></a></div>
<div
style="font-size:small;font-family:arial"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://hub.kc9zhv.com/"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204)"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://hub.kc9zhv.com">http://hub.kc9zhv.com</a></a></div>
<div style="font-size:small"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ltcraft.net/"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204)"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://Ltcraft.net">http://Ltcraft.net</a><span></span><span></span></a></div>
<div style="font-size:small"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://voipham.com"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://voipham.com">http://voipham.com</a></a></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br>
<span>App_rpt-users mailing list</span><br>
<span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org"
target="_blank">App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org</a></span><br>
<span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users"
target="_blank">http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users</a></span><br>
<span></span><br>
<span>To unsubscribe from this list please visit <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users">http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users</a></a>
and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter
your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or
edit options button"</span><br>
<span>You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you
can do it via email confirmation. If you have
trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to
the list detailing the problem. </span></div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<br>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
<br>
<pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
App_rpt-users mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org">App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users">http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users</a>
To unsubscribe from this list please visit <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users">http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users</a> and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button"
You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. </pre>
</blockquote>
<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
"Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about."
1st Law of Logic</pre>
</body>
</html>