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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Jim,<br>
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      For something requiring small packaging, consider the RIM Lite
      models from Scott Zimmerman:<br>
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      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.repeater-builder.com/products/usb-rim-lite.html">http://www.repeater-builder.com/products/usb-rim-lite.html</a><br>
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      Kevin<br>
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      On 11/24/2016 6:10 PM, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:no1pc@yahoo.com">no1pc@yahoo.com</a> wrote:<br>
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            id="yui_3_16_0_1_1479964511744_56664">Thanks Kevin!  Your
            work is legendary and has always been uniquely valuable to
            the community!<br>
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            The 'DSP' schematics implied Pin 13 went to 'a' red LED
            without enough clarity for my brain to get this was an
            add-on/mod. (read the whole manual Jim!)<br>
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            Your board is the next stop on the trail!!  </span></div>
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            id="yui_3_16_0_1_1479964511744_56828">This is for my a
            shielded/re-packaged BF-888 porta-node to go in the RV and
            the next will be tied to an RLC controller for our
            'landmark' SF repeater site.</span></div>
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                      style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Kevin
                  Custer <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:kuggie@kuggie.com"><kuggie@kuggie.com></a><br>
                  <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:no1pc@yahoo.com">no1pc@yahoo.com</a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org">"App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org"</a>
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org"><App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org></a> <br>
                  <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b>
                  Thursday, November 24, 2016 2:11 PM<br>
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                      id="yui_3_16_0_1_1479964511744_56843">Subject:</span></b>
                  Re: [App_rpt-users] USB FOB not affecting Pin 13 to
                  PTT<br>
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                      id="yui_3_16_0_1_1479964511744_56846">You are
                      missing something....   On most FOB's, regardless
                      of the manufacturer, the RED LED is not wired to
                      pin 13.  While the green LED usually works
                      correctly because it's tied to pin 12 on the
                      C-Media chip, the red LED by default is connected
                      to pin 21.<br clear="none">
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                      There are several reliable sources for non potted
                      FOB's, but generally they cost more.  The SYBA
                      UAUD71 and the StarTech ICUSBAUDIO are two such
                      units.  They generally cost between $11 and $17
                      depending on supplier.<br clear="none">
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                      I've recently dropped the price of the RA-35 to
                      include the CM119A and EEPROM to be presoldered.<br
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                      Kevin<br clear="none">
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                      On 11/24/2016 3:20 PM, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                            id="yiv1993924821yui_3_16_0_1_1479964511744_47942">I
                            have a few USB fobs resembling the one shown
                            in the document titled "USB FOB to DB25
                            Interface" </div>
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                            id="yiv1993924821yui_3_16_0_1_1479964511744_47945">Unfortunately
                            the chip itself is potted die-on-board so
                            access to signalling lines is limited to the
                            additional components on board, which should
                            seem simple enough to get to Pin 13 that
                            feeds the Red LED to extract a PTT signal.</div>
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                            id="yiv1993924821yui_3_16_0_1_1479964511744_47948">(I
                            am able to assert COS- to Volume down and
                            get received audio "to the net" experienced
                            with WebTransceiver.)</div>
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                            id="yiv1993924821yui_3_16_0_1_1479964511744_47951">Unfortunately
                            metering 'every' available connection and
                            toggling WebTransceiver's Key/Transmit, none
                            of the signal lines on the board react.  I
                            could imagine one line or the other might be
                            open-collector and I'd have to add a pull-up
                            to see a transition, but with the LED still
                            in-circuit I'd think that would react.  (The
                            Green LED works as heartbeat just fine.)</div>
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                            id="yiv1993924821yui_3_16_0_1_1479964511744_47954">Before
                            I head to the local Frys and buy 1-2 each
                            every fob they have to gut to see if I could
                            get to the chip pins directly (or try to be
                            patient and wait for Amazon)...</div>
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id="yiv1993924821yui_3_16_0_1_1479964511744_47956" clear="none">
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                            id="yiv1993924821yui_3_16_0_1_1479964511744_47957">...
                            I'm sitting here looking at a fully
                            functional micro with a LOT of GPIO pins
                            available...  wondering why, aside from the
                            IRLP s/w and interface options available...
                            doesn't an AllStar implementation leverage
                            the on-board signalling?</div>
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                            id="yiv1993924821yui_3_16_0_1_1479964511744_47960">I
                            see there is Python code around to work with
                            the GPIO, but not quite yet sure how or if I
                            could create and call PTT and COR (and
                            CTCSS) sense scripts within the AllStar
                            configuration - ???</div>
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                            id="yiv1993924821yui_3_16_0_1_1479964511744_47963">I
                            know it would split out the radio audio v
                            PTT/COS wiring harness just a bit vs the
                            cute USB thing, but what the heck -
                            buffer/interface parts on a small perf board
                            tied to the GPIO pins and done?  No?</div>
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                            id="yiv1993924821yui_3_16_0_1_1479964511744_47966">Am
                            I missing something?  Code- and
                            instructions-to-be?</div>
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                            Pi 3 Model B v 1.2</div>
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                            id="yiv1993924821yui_3_16_0_1_1479964511744_47972">BTW,
                            uname -a yields: "Linux barf3
                            3.18.0-trunk-rpi2 #1 SMP PREEMPT Debian
                            3.18.5-1~exp1.co1 (2015-02-02) armv7l
                            GNU/Linux"</div>
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