<div dir="ltr">Thanks :) I am still stunned about Jim, things happened VERY quickly.<div>But the amount of support for this project is simply AMAZING, and very glad to not only see it continue, but get better/stronger.</div><div>A huge thanks for the team!</div><div><br></div><div>Kirk</div><div>NO7BS (used to be WB6EGR)</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 9:48 AM, Jeff Carrier <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:k0jsc.jeff@gmail.com" target="_blank">k0jsc.jeff@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Good to see you Kirk, <div><br></div><div>It's been a while but your response is exactly as I would have expected ;)</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 10:35 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:app_rpt-users-request@lists.allstarlink.org" target="_blank">app_rpt-users-request@lists.<wbr>allstarlink.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send App_rpt-users mailing list submissions to<br>
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Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 09:18:12 -0800<br>
From: Kirk Just Kirk <<a href="mailto:wb6egr@gmail.com" target="_blank">wb6egr@gmail.com</a>><br>
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You are not alone! I had numbers 310 and 320 WAY back when. Then we started<br>
running IRLP on the same platform and Dave Cameron went NUTS! Remember the<br>
threat to yank our PGP keys?<br>
Well that was all i needed to hear. I told Cameron to shove my 2 node<br>
numbers up his ass (keys included) and never looked back. Nodes 2155-2159<br>
were born.<br>
IRLP is like cruising in a old "Escort"...running on 3 cylinders, a AM<br>
radio that gets 2 stations, no AC, manual windows and a big spring that<br>
pokes you in the ass.Does it run? well yeah kinda.<br>
Dave Cameron was PISSED! Allstar was cutting in on his ability to sell a<br>
SSI-202 chip and a small "peek & Poke" board for $170..and you get a node<br>
number tossed in for free...<br>
You were not allowed to set it up yourself, one of Daves minnions had to<br>
download you, you got treated like the cable company treats you.<br>
IRLP changed the ham world like the invention of the automobile, Jim and<br>
Steve brought it into the 21st century....enjoy the smooth ride.<br>
<br>
<br>
On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 7:50 AM, JJC <<a href="mailto:cummingsj@gmail.com" target="_blank">cummingsj@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> I am very turned off of IRLP by the overall attitude of the "team" that<br>
> seems against the spirit of Amateur Radio in my opinion. You contrast that<br>
> with Allstar that is opensourced and based on a well know and supported OSS<br>
> PBX software with good (positive) community support and participation,<br>
> that's enough for me to be very happy.<br>
><br>
> Sent from the iRoad<br>
><br>
> On Feb 5, 2017, at 19:18, Lu V <<a href="mailto:luvencl8@gmail.com" target="_blank">luvencl8@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> I used IRLP back in the day, but when I started to get flak from one of<br>
> his cronies, and I was actually called a lid at one point, that's when I<br>
> realized that it was time to move on and make a change towards a real open<br>
> source platform which is much more advanced and has great people willing to<br>
> help out.. All of the proprietary and political crap that went on on that<br>
> network was enough to make one puke! Sorry, I'm just telling you how it was<br>
> and the faster I got away from IRLP the better off I was. I don't miss it<br>
> at all!<br>
><br>
> Lu Vencl<br>
><br>
> On Feb 4, 2017, at 13:13, Jeff Carrier <<a href="mailto:k0jsc.jeff@gmail.com" target="_blank">k0jsc.jeff@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Folks will migrate to the better option naturally. I'm already seeing<br>
> that sort of migration here. I can do a lot more with allstar than any of<br>
> the other available options. Allstar is also actively developed.<br>
><br>
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>> Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 10:55:08 -0500<br>
>> From: Bryan Fields <<a href="mailto:Bryan@bryanfields.net" target="_blank">Bryan@bryanfields.net</a>><br>
>> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <<a href="mailto:app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org" target="_blank">app_rpt-users@lists.allstarli<wbr>nk.org</a>><br>
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>> On 2/4/17 10:28 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:<br>
>> > Can't agree. Mr. Cameron has made his views on that pretty clear. Let<br>
>> him have his closed off proprietary sandbox.<br>
>><br>
>> Fuck him, it's source code, and code has no politics. If people want to<br>
>> use<br>
>> it they should be free to do so. If he wants to ban users from his<br>
>> network so<br>
>> be it.<br>
>><br>
>> More users he bans the faster irlp dies. I see the irlp channel driver as<br>
>> being a migration tool.<br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>> Bryan Fields<br>
>><br>
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Kirk do you hate Fords. Can you tell us how you really feel about Fords.<br>
LOL "GO Mopar"<br>
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David<br>
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Thanks, David<br>
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On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 9:18 AM, Kirk Just Kirk <<a href="mailto:wb6egr@gmail.com" target="_blank">wb6egr@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> You are not alone! I had numbers 310 and 320 WAY back when. Then we<br>
> started running IRLP on the same platform and Dave Cameron went NUTS!<br>
> Remember the threat to yank our PGP keys?<br>
> Well that was all i needed to hear. I told Cameron to shove my 2 node<br>
> numbers up his ass (keys included) and never looked back. Nodes 2155-2159<br>
> were born.<br>
> IRLP is like cruising in a old "Escort"...running on 3 cylinders, a AM<br>
> radio that gets 2 stations, no AC, manual windows and a big spring that<br>
> pokes you in the ass.Does it run? well yeah kinda.<br>
> Dave Cameron was PISSED! Allstar was cutting in on his ability to sell a<br>
> SSI-202 chip and a small "peek & Poke" board for $170..and you get a node<br>
> number tossed in for free...<br>
> You were not allowed to set it up yourself, one of Daves minnions had to<br>
> download you, you got treated like the cable company treats you.<br>
> IRLP changed the ham world like the invention of the automobile, Jim and<br>
> Steve brought it into the 21st century....enjoy the smooth ride.<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 7:50 AM, JJC <<a href="mailto:cummingsj@gmail.com" target="_blank">cummingsj@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> I am very turned off of IRLP by the overall attitude of the "team" that<br>
>> seems against the spirit of Amateur Radio in my opinion. You contrast that<br>
>> with Allstar that is opensourced and based on a well know and supported OSS<br>
>> PBX software with good (positive) community support and participation,<br>
>> that's enough for me to be very happy.<br>
>><br>
>> Sent from the iRoad<br>
>><br>
>> On Feb 5, 2017, at 19:18, Lu V <<a href="mailto:luvencl8@gmail.com" target="_blank">luvencl8@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> I used IRLP back in the day, but when I started to get flak from one of<br>
>> his cronies, and I was actually called a lid at one point, that's when I<br>
>> realized that it was time to move on and make a change towards a real open<br>
>> source platform which is much more advanced and has great people willing to<br>
>> help out.. All of the proprietary and political crap that went on on that<br>
>> network was enough to make one puke! Sorry, I'm just telling you how it was<br>
>> and the faster I got away from IRLP the better off I was. I don't miss it<br>
>> at all!<br>
>><br>
>> Lu Vencl<br>
>><br>
>> On Feb 4, 2017, at 13:13, Jeff Carrier <<a href="mailto:k0jsc.jeff@gmail.com" target="_blank">k0jsc.jeff@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Folks will migrate to the better option naturally. I'm already seeing<br>
>> that sort of migration here. I can do a lot more with allstar than any of<br>
>> the other available options. Allstar is also actively developed.<br>
>><br>
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>>> Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 10:55:08 -0500<br>
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>>><br>
>>> On 2/4/17 10:28 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:<br>
>>> > Can't agree. Mr. Cameron has made his views on that pretty clear. Let<br>
>>> him have his closed off proprietary sandbox.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Fuck him, it's source code, and code has no politics. If people want to<br>
>>> use<br>
>>> it they should be free to do so. If he wants to ban users from his<br>
>>> network so<br>
>>> be it.<br>
>>><br>
>>> More users he bans the faster irlp dies. I see the irlp channel driver<br>
>>> as<br>
>>> being a migration tool.<br>
>>><br>
>>> --<br>
>>> Bryan Fields<br>
>>><br>
>>> <a href="tel:727-409-1194" value="+17274091194" target="_blank">727-409-1194</a> - Voice<br>
>>> <a href="http://bryanfields.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://bryanfields.net</a><br>
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