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    Loren,<br>
    You missed my comment about one size fits all. A app written for a
    mobile device will take advantage of options not available to a web
    interface. It is far better to use a app written for the platform.
    For the web platform HTML5 may be a good choice. The Web Transceiver
    talks to the ASL network via IAX. <br>
    <br>
    73, Steve N4IRS  <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/17/2017 10:33 AM, Loren Tedford
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Steve I still like the idea that we are at least
        talking about fixing the Web Transceiver if i knew a little more
        about it maybe we could figure out how to make the web
        transceiver work in html mostly instead of java.. If this can be
        done this will mean its comparable via any mobile web browser
        out on the market today..  All the user would have to do is
        login to the website etc.. So exactly how does the web
        transceiver talk to the allstarlink network??? What exactly is
        going on in the back end of things?? </div>
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                  <div style="font-size:small;font-family:arial">Loren
                    Tedford (KC9ZHV) </div>
                  <div style="font-size:small;font-family:arial">Phone:618-553-0806</div>
                  <div style="font-size:small"><font face="arial">Fax: 1-618-551-2755</font><br>
                    <font face="arial">Email: </font><a
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                  <div style="font-size:small">Email: <a
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                      href="mailto:KC9ZHV@KC9ZHV.com"
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                      href="http://forum.kc9zhv.com/"
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                      href="http://hub.kc9zhv.com/"
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                  <div style="font-size:small"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://ltcraft.net/"
                      style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">http://Ltcraft.net<span></span><span></span></a></div>
                  <div style="font-size:small"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://voipham.com" target="_blank">http://voipham.com</a></div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 7:47 AM, Steve
          Zingman <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:szingman@msgstor.com" target="_blank">szingman@msgstor.com</a>></span>
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            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> As I said, The Web
              Transceiver code is being looked at to evaluate if and how
              it can be moved forward.  A one size fits all solution
              will not adequately work on all platforms. Support for
              mobile devices is a must. As of right now for access to
              specific nodes the choices are Zopier and Android IAXRPT.
              Zopier runs on IOS and Android. Android IAXRPT of course
              runs on Android and is tailored to AllStarLink nodes. The
              Web Transceiver is more general.<br>
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              73, Steve N4IRS  <br>
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              <div class="m_-9148340866606342737moz-cite-prefix">On
                4/16/2017 10:54 PM, Matthew Pitts wrote:<br>
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              <blockquote type="cite"> Yes, kids were the target
                audience of the Raspberry Pi, but look at what Hams have
                done with it, in its various forms. AllStar nodes,
                whether DIAL or the distribution Doug helped develop.
                Multi-mode Digital Voice nodes using various interface
                devices like the MMDVM or DVAP/DV-RPTR/DVMEGA.
                Echolink/IRLP nodes. If we really want to get the
                attention of teens and twenty-somethings, and keep it,
                we need to adapt our tactics to the way they live; how
                often do you see one without a smartphone somewhere on
                their person? Create an app (or two, as iOS should be
                covered too) that supports the features of the current
                Web Transceiver and you'll have a tool that everyone can
                use and still have the browser free for other things.<br>
                <br>
                Matthew Pitts<br>
                N8OHU <br>
                -- <br>
                Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse
                my brevity.<br>
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                <div class="gmail_quote">On April 15, 2017 6:48:44 PM
                  EDT, Thor Wiegman <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                  wrote:
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                    rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> It comes as no
                    surprise that someone like Doug would have little or
                    no need for the web transceiver.  Most of us on this
                    list won't have use for it.  Anyone who's come so
                    far as to building their own node and subscribing to
                    this list has likely exceeded what that web
                    transceiver could do for them.<br>
                    <br>
                    Consider however that there is a different market, a
                    different audience for a web transceiver.  I know
                    that I'm not the only one who got involved in this
                    through exploration with the web transceiver.  <br>
                    <br>
                    So I think there is benefit in having such a simple
                    tool.  It can be, if it works well and is designed
                    properly, a great tool for someone to take that
                    first step in finding out what all this is about.<br>
                    <br>
                    Consider the target audience of the Raspberry Pi. 
                    Getting kids into programming and using these
                    devices to do things, control things and such.  Ham
                    radio needs to attract, and keep, the attention of
                    that same audience.  App_rpt and Allstarlink are
                    great for that.  But this audience doesn't come to
                    us with anything more than a very basic, novice
                    background at first.  A web transceiver seems like a
                    handy tool for those new young hams to explore.<br>
                    <br>
                    There's my long winded $0.02  <br>
                    73<br>
                    Thor (N7JCT)<br>
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                              Re: [App_rpt-users] Alternative to
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                              Doug Crompton <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                              Users of Asterisk app_rpt <a
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                        If you must have the web transceiver there are
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