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    <p>I wonder what kind of enclosure he had it in?<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/8/2017 11:10 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">The PCGM were noisy. I know of a case where a ham
        using one was shut down by the site owner. Seems the PCGM was
        emitting a interfering signal on high band, around 158 Mhz.   </div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Bryan
          Fields <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:bryan@bryanfields.net" target="_blank">bryan@bryanfields.net</a>></span>
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              <div>I've been following this with some interest.  One of
                the fundamental issues with the PCGM was the master
                clock going to the radio was unable to be modulated. 
                This made low frequency signals (PL) distort, and
                digital PL was even worse.  </div>
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              <div id="m_-8108346821654717487AppleMailSignature">Typically
                most radios use two point modulation, with modulation on
                the reference oscillator.  When you add an external
                reference you loose this.</div>
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              <div id="m_-8108346821654717487AppleMailSignature">Some
                base stations are designed to do two point modulation
                even on an external clock, the Quantar for example. 
                This station will even phase lock it's PL and DPL
                generation if provided a 1 PPS in addition to a clock.</div>
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              <div id="m_-8108346821654717487AppleMailSignature">If we
                could inject modulation into the clock generator
                simulcast performance would vastly improve.  I'd be
                interested to see your design to see if this would be a
                possibility.</div>
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              <div id="m_-8108346821654717487AppleMailSignature">Thoughts?</div>
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                <div style="direction:inherit">Bryan Fields</div>
                <div style="direction:inherit">M: <a
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                On May 8, 2017, at 14:15, Reid Brandon <<a
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                      Joe,</div>
                    <div
                      id="m_-8108346821654717487yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1494266968989_5135">I
                      got a page with a pic of a man that rotated 
                      around saying DOWNLOAD NOT FOUND.</div>
                    <div
                      id="m_-8108346821654717487yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1494266968989_5184">Try
                      again!?</div>
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                      id="m_-8108346821654717487yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1494266968989_5186">Tks 
                      Reid<br>
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                                On Sunday, May 7, 2017 12:25 PM, Pierre
                                Martel <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                                  <div dir="ltr">I am very interrested
                                    in all this project. My email is
                                    VE2PF @ VE2MRC dot com!
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                                    <div>what radio did you used for the
                                      project? </div>
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                                    <div>Thanks for sharing!</div>
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                                    <div>Pierre</div>
                                    <div>VE2PF</div>
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                                        class="">2017-05-07 12:32
                                        GMT-04:00 Kevin Custer <span
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                                          Why not consider do it as an
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                                            On 5/7/2017 3:13 AM, Joe
                                            Moskalski wrote:<br
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                                            I wanted to throw this email
                                            out to the group for all
                                            those who want to simulcast
                                            with the RTCM. For those who
                                            don't know, in order to make
                                            the RTCM suitable for
                                            simulcast you must have a
                                            more accurate 9.6 MHz clock
                                            for the RTCM in order to
                                            ensure the audio sounds
                                            acceptable in the overlap
                                            areas. I did this a few
                                            months ago using 9.6 MHz
                                            OCXO's. This worked
                                            reasonably well. Not as well
                                            as I would have liked but
                                            the system was very usable,
                                            but of course I wanted it to
                                            be better. Since the PCGM
                                            (Programmable Clock
                                            Generation Module) is no
                                            longer available, I decided
                                            to roll my own as some say.<br
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                                            I created a PLL circuit that
                                            can accept a 10 MHz, 1 MHz
                                            or 100 KHz reference input
                                            and produce a phase locked
                                            9.6 MHz out for the RTCM. I
                                            have been testing this over
                                            the past few days and it has
                                            made an great improvement in
                                            the audio quality in the
                                            overlap. The quality of the
                                            audio in the overlap areas
                                            sounds very, very good, it's
                                            very similar to what I
                                            expect to hear in commercial
                                            simulcast systems. My
                                            circuit is heavily based off
                                            of an old Motorola MSF5000
                                            HSO PLL circuit that I was
                                            able to adapt and modify to
                                            my needs.  There are other
                                            uses for this circuit that
                                            make it attractive for
                                            simulcasting but I wont get
                                            into them here. I am will to
                                            share my schematic and bill
                                            of materials (digikey) with
                                            anyone. Please send me an
                                            email and I will be willing
                                            to share all of my
                                            information on the project.<br
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