<div dir="ltr">You can do DPL with TX/RX that have DPL on board using simple usb but I'd prefer DSP. IMHO it's cleaner and I was never able to eliminate squelch bursts using simple usb. DPL coupled with DSP would probably produce a nice clean drop when a user or the repeater unkeys.<div><br></div><div>Half of my question/suggestion was also regarding RTCM based systems. With the RTCM you need to use the local CTCSS/DCS decoder but the server produces the TX CTCSS and sends it up the network. In a simulcast setup I'm assuming you would have to have the server generate DCS if there were to be any overlap areas at all.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 8:28 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:app_rpt-users-request@lists.allstarlink.org" target="_blank">app_rpt-users-request@lists.allstarlink.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send App_rpt-users mailing list submissions to<br>
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From: George Csahanin <<a href="mailto:george@dyb.com">george@dyb.com</a>><br>
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Just recently thinking of this. It actually would be pretty handy.<br>
Though most just use the pl/dpl encode/decode in the radio and don't use<br>
the DSP encode and decode in Allstar it might be handy for a few> I have<br>
a small node consisting of a Motorola P10 talkie where I use DSP PL. I<br>
use PL there. But a real need arises on 900. I have a pair of TKR-901's<br>
that will be modded for the ham band using someone else's code to allow<br>
programming of the synthesizers. But DPL seems to be a better choice on<br>
900 and the TKR-901 has zero PL circuitry, its basically a receiver and<br>
transmitter, carrier squelch. A perfect candidate for USBRADIO. But<br>
really needs DPL.<br>
<br>
But I defer to the code writers. This may not be trivial to do and may<br>
be more of a distraction.<br>
<br>
But a neat idea.<br>
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GeorgeC<br>
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On 7/10/2017 8:50 AM, Jeff Carrier wrote:<br>
> How many on the list would desire DPL support within app_rpt? Is it<br>
> worth looking at? I'm pretty sure this has come up in the past. For<br>
> the record, I ask this knowing I'm unable to contribute to the coding<br>
> of this since I lack that skill set.<br>
><br>
> I personally prefer DPL but I think there are still many older radios<br>
> lurking that don't have capabilities beyond CTCSS.<br>
><br>
> I also know we've had pretty spirited discussions regarding simulcast<br>
> on the list. I'm simulcasting from 4 sites on UHF with unmodified<br>
> RTCM's and do have some issues in the overlap areas. I know keeping<br>
> CTCSS in phase in an analog simulcast system is a challenge so how<br>
> ugly would DPL be in a simulcast environment?<br>
><br>
> Thoughts?<br>
><br>
> de K0JSC<br>
><br>
> On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 2:09 PM,<br>
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From: George Csahanin <<a href="mailto:george@dyb.com">george@dyb.com</a>><br>
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If the radios you use already do DPL there's no need for it in the<br>
asterisk code.<br>
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GeorgeC<br>
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On 7/10/2017 9:10 AM, Bryan D. Boyle wrote:<br>
> I would be all for it; IIRC the XIPR release supports it, so it is<br>
> doable.<br>
><br>
> I know a lot of the *ahem* experienced rigs don't have the capability<br>
> (TR-22c with an add-on ctcss board, anyone?), but seems to me that<br>
> most modern rigs of any consequence (even the cheap asia-pacific rim<br>
> units have it) will be able to support it.<br>
><br>
> FWIW, I have DCS set up on the analog side of my DR1x on my 2m pair,<br>
> and It works, on baofeng, wouxuns, kenwood, Yaesu, and batwing ht and<br>
> mobiles just fine.<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Bryan<br>
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> On Jul 10, 2017, at 09:50, Jeff Carrier <<a href="mailto:k0jsc.jeff@gmail.com">k0jsc.jeff@gmail.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:k0jsc.jeff@gmail.com">k0jsc.jeff@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> How many on the list would desire DPL support within app_rpt? Is it<br>
>> worth looking at? I'm pretty sure this has come up in the past. For<br>
>> the record, I ask this knowing I'm unable to contribute to the coding<br>
>> of this since I lack that skill set.<br>
>><br>
>> I personally prefer DPL but I think there are still many older radios<br>
>> lurking that don't have capabilities beyond CTCSS.<br>
>><br>
>> I also know we've had pretty spirited discussions regarding simulcast<br>
>> on the list. I'm simulcasting from 4 sites on UHF with unmodified<br>
>> RTCM's and do have some issues in the overlap areas. I know keeping<br>
>> CTCSS in phase in an analog simulcast system is a challenge so how<br>
>> ugly would DPL be in a simulcast environment?<br>
>><br>
>> Thoughts?<br>
>><br>
>> de K0JSC<br>
>><br>
>> On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 2:09 PM,<br>
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>> The AllStarLink image files are now available at<br>
>> <<a href="http://3102.repeater.net/AllStarLink/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://3102.repeater.net/<wbr>AllStarLink/</a><br>
>> <<a href="http://3102.repeater.net/AllStarLink/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://3102.repeater.net/<wbr>AllStarLink/</a>>> thanks to Corey N3FE The<br>
>> download links have been updated to point to the new location.<br>
>> Thanks to Mike KB8ZGL at Virtual Systems, I am moving<br>
>> <a href="http://dvswitch.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">dvswitch.org</a> <<a href="http://dvswitch.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://dvswitch.org</a>> and<br>
>> the AllStarLink image mirror to a new state of the art data<br>
>> center. The<br>
>> new IP address is for <a href="http://dvswitch.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">dvswitch.org</a> <<a href="http://dvswitch.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://dvswitch.org</a>> is<br>
>> 44.103.32.18 I will be moving the<br>
>> DNS entries and adding the mirror of the image files. This will be a<br>
>> work in progress over the next week.<br>
>><br>
>> On 07/08/2017 11:53 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:<br>
>> > As I said before, DVSwitch is having a outage. I am changing<br>
>> > providers. In the future we will maintain 2 different DownLoad<br>
>> locations.<br>
>> > In the meantime, Corey, N3FE has donated space on a solid provider.<br>
>> > The main AllStarLink page will be updated. In the meantime here<br>
>> is one<br>
>> > of the new locations:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > <<a href="http://3102.repeater.net/AllStarLink/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://3102.repeater.net/<wbr>AllStarLink/</a><br>
>> <<a href="http://3102.repeater.net/AllStarLink/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://3102.repeater.net/<wbr>AllStarLink/</a>>><br>
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>> On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Bryan D. Boyle<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:bdboyle@bdboyle.com">bdboyle@bdboyle.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bdboyle@bdboyle.com">bdboyle@bdboyle.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> > send the email chain with all the insults and legal threats,<br>
>> their public<br>
>> > refusal to release the source, and all correspondence to the<br>
>> Open Source<br>
>> > Foundation, whose GPL the source was originally licensed<br>
>> under. Jim had an<br>
>> > opinion about people like that...which is why he fought to keep<br>
>> it open<br>
>> > source.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > That's what their lawyers' job is; you aren't going to fight<br>
>> their massive<br>
>> > self-reverential egos over there.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > (and I really don't care whether they ban me for telling it<br>
>> like I see it)<br>
>> > --<br>
>> > Bryan<br>
>> > Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the<br>
>> sending of this<br>
>> > message.<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Jul 9, 2017, at 13:35, Bryan Fields <<a href="mailto:Bryan@bryanfields.net">Bryan@bryanfields.net</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:Bryan@bryanfields.net">Bryan@bryanfields.net</a>><wbr>> wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I'm taking this back on list. It's an important enough<br>
>> response to have it<br>
>> > here. You may ignore this thread if you wish.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > On 7/9/17 1:21 PM, David McGough wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > Neil,<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > I have taken these comments off list.<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > At this point you are taking a childish argument to a criminal<br>
>> level,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > claiming a "back door" into the hamvoip distro and that<br>
>> statement is<br>
>> ><br>
>> > absolutely a LIE.<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > With these statements you are committing criminal libel.<br>
>> Whether you you<br>
>> ><br>
>> > it or not, I am an Internet Business owner and I build custom<br>
>> routers for<br>
>> ><br>
>> > several fortune 1000 Companies and have thousands installed<br>
>> across 80+<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Countries. Your comments are tarnishing to my reputation. I<br>
>> seriously<br>
>> ><br>
>> > recommend that you either promptly come up with proof to back<br>
>> up your<br>
>> ><br>
>> > statement or retract it.<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > A person with such contempt for the law should not be lecturing<br>
>> others<br>
>> > about<br>
>> > it. I further fail to see why I am copied on this, are you<br>
>> threatening<br>
>> > legal<br>
>> > action?<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Release the source, you have no other option.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > As someone building routers, you should be familiar with the<br>
>> finer points<br>
>> > of<br>
>> > the GPL. I have to say, as someone who also has a day job with<br>
>> a company<br>
>> > who<br>
>> > builds routers, I've never heard of Internet Technologies.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > 73's<br>
>> > --<br>
>> > Bryan Fields<br>
>> ><br>
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>> Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 15:09:13 -0500<br>
>> From: Andrew Sylthe <<a href="mailto:asylthe@kc9ona.com">asylthe@kc9ona.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:asylthe@kc9ona.com">asylthe@kc9ona.com</a>>><br>
>> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org">app_rpt-users@lists.<wbr>allstarlink.org</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org">app_rpt-users@lists.<wbr>allstarlink.org</a>>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] OFF-LIST Looks like I can't post no more<br>
>> on a ARM mailing list.<br>
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>> <CAMbt3dva5PVZgpc_JpTAWpRS+<wbr>hcNiGBVD=<a href="mailto:2qe3pSzJrR2tObsw@mail.gmail.com">2qe3pSzJrR2tObsw@<wbr>mail.gmail.com</a><br>
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>> The source code for Asterisk, DAHDI, app_rpt, and probably others...<br>
>><br>
>> On Jul 9, 2017 2:59 PM, "David Shaw" <<a href="mailto:shawpbx@gmail.com">shawpbx@gmail.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:shawpbx@gmail.com">shawpbx@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> > Who's Source code? Just asking.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > David<br>
>> > KE6UPI<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > --<br>
>> > Thanks, David<br>
>> ><br>
>> > "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who<br>
>> are neither<br>
>> > inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things<br>
>> worse for<br>
>> > the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather<br>
>> to encourage<br>
>> > than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with<br>
>> greater<br>
>> > confidence than an armed one."<br>
>> > Thomas Jefferson<br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Bryan D. Boyle<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:bdboyle@bdboyle.com">bdboyle@bdboyle.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bdboyle@bdboyle.com">bdboyle@bdboyle.com</a>>><br>
>> > wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> >> send the email chain with all the insults and legal threats,<br>
>> their public<br>
>> >> refusal to release the source, and all correspondence to the<br>
>> Open Source<br>
>> >> Foundation, whose GPL the source was originally licensed<br>
>> under. Jim had an<br>
>> >> opinion about people like that...which is why he fought to<br>
>> keep it open<br>
>> >> source.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> That's what their lawyers' job is; you aren't going to fight their<br>
>> >> massive self-reverential egos over there.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> (and I really don't care whether they ban me for telling it<br>
>> like I see it)<br>
>> >> --<br>
>> >> Bryan<br>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the<br>
>> sending of this<br>
>> >> message.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> On Jul 9, 2017, at 13:35, Bryan Fields <<a href="mailto:Bryan@bryanfields.net">Bryan@bryanfields.net</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:Bryan@bryanfields.net">Bryan@bryanfields.net</a>><wbr>> wrote:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> I'm taking this back on list. It's an important enough<br>
>> response to have<br>
>> >> it<br>
>> >> here. You may ignore this thread if you wish.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> On 7/9/17 1:21 PM, David McGough wrote:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Neil,<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> I have taken these comments off list.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> At this point you are taking a childish argument to a criminal<br>
>> level,<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> claiming a "back door" into the hamvoip distro and that<br>
>> statement is<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> absolutely a LIE.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> With these statements you are committing criminal libel.<br>
>> Whether you you<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> it or not, I am an Internet Business owner and I build custom<br>
>> routers for<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> several fortune 1000 Companies and have thousands installed<br>
>> across 80+<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Countries. Your comments are tarnishing to my reputation. I<br>
>> seriously<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> recommend that you either promptly come up with proof to back<br>
>> up your<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> statement or retract it.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> A person with such contempt for the law should not be<br>
>> lecturing others<br>
>> >> about<br>
>> >> it. I further fail to see why I am copied on this, are you<br>
>> threatening<br>
>> >> legal<br>
>> >> action?<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Release the source, you have no other option.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> As someone building routers, you should be familiar with the<br>
>> finer points<br>
>> >> of<br>
>> >> the GPL. I have to say, as someone who also has a day job<br>
>> with a company<br>
>> >> who<br>
>> >> builds routers, I've never heard of Internet Technologies.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> 73's<br>
>> >> --<br>
>> >> Bryan Fields<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> <a href="tel:727-409-1194" value="+17274091194">727-409-1194</a> <tel:<a href="tel:727-409-1194" value="+17274091194">727-409-1194</a>> <(727)%20409-1194> - Voice<br>
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