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<p>Ok.. Sounds good I guess i must have missed some of the emails
along the line.. I updated one of my videos on the installation of
Allstarlink today and looking to eventually get around to show
people how to setup config scripts including allmon as well but
for the rest of the day i gotta get back to streaming and a couple
of games today..</p>
<p>Trust me i was looking forward to getting this video made for
awhile now but looking to do a playlist on this so that way in
case i some thing changes all i gotta do is adjust the playlist
accordingly rather the re edit a long video.</p>
<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://youtu.be/iOvmE2lk99M">https://youtu.be/iOvmE2lk99M</a></p>
<p>anyway off to the projects.. <br>
</p>
<p>73 <br>
</p>
<p>KC9ZHV<br>
</p>
<p>Loren Tedford<br>
</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/18/2018 10:42 AM, Tim Sawyer
wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Loren,</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Hamvoip.com
not <a href="http://voipham.com" moz-do-not-send="true">voipham.com</a>.
Didn't know about <a href="http://voipham.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">voipham.com</a>. If I transposed the
URL in one of my emails, my apologies. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 8:06 AM Loren Tedford
<<a href="mailto:loren@lorentedford.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">loren@lorentedford.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p>I have been seeing some of theses posts.. But what the
heck is going on????????????</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Is this over the whole deal where i am degrading the
product or what ever because of my purchase of <a
href="http://voipham.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">voipham.com</a>? I created it
originally to be a tutorial kinda page for those of us
that had trouble installing allstar link back in the day..
Yeah i know its about 5 or 6 years old now and i haven't
done much with it since my accident in October of 2014 and
sorry about that.. Also Tim I am looking at digging a bit
further into allmon will update things eventually but was
looking at making it more mobile compliant that sort of
thing and possibly locking it down with like an admin page
using MySQL database or some thing.. Just haven't gotten
around to having Mark to help me with some of that since i
have forgotten just about all of it now.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Anyway still trying to figure out exactly what i missed
that started this whole political incorrectness or what
ever.. <br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Thank You all involved :) Keep up the good work!</p>
<p>Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV)<br>
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<div class="m_5680243760424914020moz-cite-prefix">On
9/18/2018 9:11 AM, Tim Sawyer wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Supermon
is based on my Allmon 2 software <a
href="https://github.com/tsawyer/allmon2"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/tsawyer/allmon2</a>
which I give freely to anyone who wants it with no
restrictions. If the HamVoIP folks told you not to
port Supermon to Allstarlink, that further
demonstrates their total disregard for fairness. </div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">But
it's more than fairness. Great things in humanity
are built upon the knowledge of others. Software is
no exception. HamVoIP took Asterisk/AllStar/app_rpt
which has thousands of hours of development by
countless people and closed it, ending the path to
the next level of knowledge. Think about where we'd
be if no one shared their knowledge. "We stand on
the shoulders of giants" is the point I'm making. No
one will be standing on HamVoIP's shoulders. </div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">HamVoIP
(David) did give back some code (a security fix) to
Allmon 2. A whole lot more of that should be
happening. </div>
</div>
</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 8:00 PM Pierre
Martel <<a href="mailto:petem001@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">petem001@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I had the pleasur to be in the
moderated status on that list after asking for the
source code.. I was even kicked out after I publicly
told them I would use there packet of supermon to
port it to allstar link. Never did as I dont want to
agravate this with the coder of supermon, wich I
dont remember the name.
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<div dir="ltr">Le lun. 17 sept. 2018 à 01:03, Buddy
Brannan <<a href="mailto:buddy@brannan.name"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">buddy@brannan.name</a>>
a écrit :<br>
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<div
style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space">Harold,
did you get put on moderated status after daring
to question the lack of any source code release?
I did. No real skin off my nose, but still.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>As for the magnetic loop group, do you mean
magloop@yahoogroups? I skim there, generally a
pretty decent bunch, but there’s always
someone who will try to ruin it for everyone.
(Sigh) And so it goes. Sadly, our hobby is a
microcosm of society in general; were it not
so. <br>
<div><br>
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<div>On Sep 16, 2018, at 7:33 PM, <<a
href="mailto:k7ilo1@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">k7ilo1@gmail.com</a>>
<<a href="mailto:k7ilo1@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">k7ilo1@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
<br
class="m_5680243760424914020m_-5809490133081453967m_5161763958406896942Apple-interchange-newline">
<div>
<div
class="m_5680243760424914020m_-5809490133081453967m_5161763958406896942WordSection1"
style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">
<div style="margin:0in 0in
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I
don’t know much about them but after
going to the website, it reminded me
of how I had known about them.</div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">They
private emailed me about what they
were up to after I hit this post
with a question about something that
I don’t remember, but that’s besides
the point.</div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">The
email if I remember correctly was
kind of, in a way, hateful toward
the asterisk group.</div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I
never pursued their website or
anything else about them since.</div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">It
really sucks that OUR HOBBY has
become this way. I left the
magnetic loop group after expressing
my feelings toward something that
was said.</div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">It
put down all of the people that had
joined this hobby during the 90’s
when the FCC introduced the no code
technician and they bashed the crap
out of em.</div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Which
I took personal because Im one of
them.</div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Anyway,
I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in
about how political and how ham
groups bash the other. What has OUR
HOBBY come to?</div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Harold</div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">K7ILO</div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Las
Vegas, NV.</div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Node
27863</div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b>From:</b><span
class="m_5680243760424914020m_-5809490133081453967m_5161763958406896942Apple-converted-space"> </span>App_rpt-users
<<a
href="mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org</a>><span
class="m_5680243760424914020m_-5809490133081453967m_5161763958406896942Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On
Behalf Of<span
class="m_5680243760424914020m_-5809490133081453967m_5161763958406896942Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Tim
Sawyer<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span
class="m_5680243760424914020m_-5809490133081453967m_5161763958406896942Apple-converted-space"> </span>Sunday,
September 16, 2018 2:11 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span
class="m_5680243760424914020m_-5809490133081453967m_5161763958406896942Apple-converted-space"> </span>Users
of Asterisk app_rpt <<a
href="mailto:app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span
class="m_5680243760424914020m_-5809490133081453967m_5161763958406896942Apple-converted-space"> </span>[App_rpt-users]
Politics</div>
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<div style="margin:0in
0in
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:18pt">There has been a ton of inaccurate statements by
the HamVoIP
principals in
numerous posts,
emails and telephone
calls regarding what
AllStarLink is up
to. Before you read
the rest of this
email please take a
look at the August
16 post over on <a
href="http://hamVoIP.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">hamVoIP.org</a>.</span></div>
</div>
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style="font-size:18pt"> </span></div>
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<div style="margin:0in
0in
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:18pt">I really don't want to wade into this political
BS. I should be
coding not spending
time on this BS.
Even so I've spent
tons of time behind
the scenes
attempting to get
folks working
together. I hesitate
to speak publicly on
this but my low key
approach has not
worked. So, some
false statements
must be publicly
corrected. I will
address only this
particular post at
this time. </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div style="margin:0in
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style="font-size:18pt"> </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div style="margin:0in
0in
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:18pt">First, "The server" is not owned by one person.
The very reason
AllStarLink, Inc.
was formed is to
prevent that
scenario. </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div style="margin:0in
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style="font-size:18pt"> </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div style="margin:0in
0in
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:18pt">Second, there is not just one server. There are
numerous servers
around the country
run by folks that
donate their time,
effort and money.</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div style="margin:0in
0in
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:18pt"> </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div style="margin:0in
0in
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:18pt">Third, HamVoIP principals continually imply that
AllStar was
unofficially taken
over. That's just
not true. The reigns
were turned as
officially as
possible given Jim's
sudden death. Jim's
long time friends
and co-developers of
AllStar contacted
current and past
AllStarLink board
members and made
arrangements for
what you see today. </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div style="margin:0in
0in
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:18pt"> </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div style="margin:0in
0in
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:18pt">Additionally, it's true that migration to the new
servers didn't go
perfectly. But it's
extreme unfair to
bash individuals who
are only attempting
to improve AllStar.
Ham Radio is about
learning if it's
about anything.
Making mistakes
happens as part of
the learning
process. Now we have
a better system and
no one got shot as
my Marine friend
used to say.</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div style="margin:0in
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0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:18pt"> </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div style="margin:0in
0in
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:18pt">The August 16 HamVoIP statements are divisive and
only serve to build
up some individuals
at the expense of
others. To HamVoIP
principals I say
enough of that crap!
If you want to build
a better mouse trap
you are welcome to
that. Go for it. But
don't justify
yourself by speaking
badly of others who
have nothing but
good intentions. </span></div>
</div>
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style="font-size:18pt"> </span></div>
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<div style="margin:0in 0in
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WD6AWP</div>
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