<div dir="ltr"><br>Dan Srebnick, You are totally right Hamvoip do not follow the law and don't post their source. <br><div>On the other side, PttLink does not do a lot better, they kept the database of users into the server that allstarlink decided to drop (which is totally their rights to do).</div><div>PttLink is holding a block of IP addresses that belong to ASL. And even the <a href="http://pttlink.org">pttlink.org</a> domain name was given to ASL by the heirs of Jim. </div><div>And they plainly lied about what was happening and on how the board of directors broked the network and bla bla bla.</div><div><br></div><div>What I find fun to see is that Brian still has 3 nodes reporting to ASL. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le mar. 9 févr. 2021 à 08:53, Dan Srebnick via App_rpt-users <<a href="mailto:app_rpt-users@lists.keekles.org">app_rpt-users@lists.keekles.org</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_-5777639848327381743WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">It was not that “HamVoip does not follow “the rules”…they do not follow “the law”…in this case copyright law. HamVoip is obliged to share back the source code of all changes/enhancements make to the app_rpt code as a condition of its use. They do not. Many are upset by that. Some or not. Perhaps someday a court shall decide.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">As far as going rogue, anyone can start their own network that supports IAX routing for amateur radio and which can be used by the app_rpt software. No problem there. Do we need another? Two networks might be good for redundancy.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">In the DMR world, we have DMR MARC, Brandmeister, TGIF, DMR+ and XLX. I don’t see folks getting too upset about that.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Why don’t we all just have one repeater in our towns and cities. One is enough, right?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Why do we have so many HF bands? We could just all be on 10 meters between 28.3 and 28.5 MHz to be fair to the Technician licensees.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Can we just put a stop to the moaning and groaning here? Be happy you have a choice. You are free to connect where you choose.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">73<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> App_rpt-users [mailto:<a href="mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces%2Bk2ie" target="_blank">app_rpt-users-bounces+k2ie</a>=<a href="mailto:k2ie.net@lists.keekles.org" target="_blank">k2ie.net@lists.keekles.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Brad Trogdon<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 9, 2021 08:36<br><b>To:</b> Users of Asterisk app_rpt <<a href="mailto:app_rpt-users@lists.keekles.org" target="_blank">app_rpt-users@lists.keekles.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [App_rpt-users] hOW do i switch to pttlink???<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Darrell, <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Remember the AllStar folks that went nuts claiming HamVoip branch was rouge and doing their own thing by not following the rules not too long ago? <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">From what I can tell it’s the same accusers now going rogue and creating their own rules / network and trying to pull folks along. <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">:/<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">-Brad<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 7:02 AM darrell harden via App_rpt-users <<a href="mailto:app_rpt-users@lists.keekles.org" target="_blank">app_rpt-users@lists.keekles.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">ok.... what is pttlink?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div><div><div id="gmail-m_-5777639848327381743m_7627909789774919339yahoo_quoted_2967565654"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">On Tuesday, February 9, 2021, 03:58:19 AM PST, ARS W5OMR <<a href="mailto:ars.w5omr@gmail.com" target="_blank">ars.w5omr@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><div id="gmail-m_-5777639848327381743m_7627909789774919339yiv3945600956"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">You dont have to. If it's working, dont fix it.<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div id="gmail-m_-5777639848327381743m_7627909789774919339yiv3945600956yqt42784"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">On Tue, Feb 9, 2021, 05:32 darrell harden via App_rpt-users <<a href="mailto:app_rpt-users@lists.keekles.org" target="_blank">app_rpt-users@lists.keekles.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">what is pttlink??? why do i have to switch my node<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">allstar works fine for me what is the reason<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">blessings and good fortune,<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">darrell<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">_______________________________________________<br>App_rpt-users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:App_rpt-users@lists.keekles.org" target="_blank">App_rpt-users@lists.keekles.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users" target="_blank">http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users</a><br><br>To unsubscribe from this list please visit <a href="http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users" target="_blank">http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users</a><br>Unsubscribe posts to the list will result in public shaming. <u></u><u></u></span></p></blockquote></div></div></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-5777639848327381743m_7627909789774919339yqt45292"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">_______________________________________________<br>App_rpt-users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:App_rpt-users@lists.keekles.org" target="_blank">App_rpt-users@lists.keekles.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users" target="_blank">http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users</a><br><br>To unsubscribe from this list please visit <a href="http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users" target="_blank">http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users</a><br>Unsubscribe posts to the list will result in public shaming. <u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>App_rpt-users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:App_rpt-users@lists.keekles.org" target="_blank">App_rpt-users@lists.keekles.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users" target="_blank">http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users</a><br><br>To unsubscribe from this list please visit <a href="http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users" target="_blank">http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users</a><br>Unsubscribe posts to the list will result in public shaming. <u></u><u></u></p></blockquote></div></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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