[FRC] Possible issues with FL repeater coordination

[David Krauss]

The issue is resolved. do we want to continue to argue or move on, folks ? it's not like this is a presidential election or something :)



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> On Nov 10, 2016, at 11:57 PM, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 11/10/16 11:32 PM, kg4ugk wrote:
>> Was this board and the FRC made aware that you in fact helped spread the
>> leaked database? Was the ARRL brought in to provide support?
> 
> The ARRL was made aware of these issues.  They have chosen to stay out of it.
> 
>> I personally, dont like the idea of Bryan being apart of this committee.
> 
> I don't like that idea either.
> 
>> We
>> are all not just hams. We live other lives, have other jobs. We should be
>> able to personally choose if we want information available and our home
>> phone numbers and addresses being immediately exposed with a quick google
>> search of your own name now, everyone on this list should in some way feel
>> violated. 
> 
> You have all this information listed in the FCC database.
> 
>> Theres a reason even QRZ requires registration and log ins prior
>> to the address you want listed on there viewable to other HAMs, not the
>> entire free world. 
> 
> Again, FCC database has this.  I'm not sure why QRZ doesn't show it, perhaps
> to encourage account creation as they are an advertisement platform.
> 
>> I don't want every person I hand my business card to be
>> able to call me at home or stop by my house because I didnt call them back
>> before close of day, as I'd imagine some of you may feel. As soon as this
>> database was made viewable, and he facilitated the distribution of said
>> hacked database, he officially made himself an accomplice to the original
>> crime. 
> 
> There was no crime and this is publicly available information. The FRC cannot
> promise to keep your information private legally.
> 
> At the end of the day more information is on your voter registration than
> what's in some repeater records.
> 
>> I do like the idea of the PDC, but as to the interactions and
>> confrontational approach he has, would not be conducive to the survival of
>> the FRC. Yes he has made some valid points, and a plan was put in motion,
>> great.
> 
> Then get involved.  What do you want to see change?
> 
> 
>> Bryan himself previously stated that it takes the FRC too long to provide
>> updates, and we've been waiting quietly for his update.. his first order of
>> being appointed to a newly formed committee is to state he hasnt had much
>> time to devote to FRC issues. It usually rolls downhill. 
> 
> I've been waiting for replies to emails and things I've sent out.  We've had
> no movement yet.  As you said "We are all not just hams. We live other lives,
> have other jobs."
> 
>> Theres a reason
>> that a chain of command exists. I am now CC'ing the NFCC board members, as
>> the ARRL should probably provide additional support, after all.. they are
>> the ones who govern whos ultimately the coordinating body for each state,
>> but after the extensive actions taken on Bryans side. When we are already
>> vunerable to hacks in the computer day and age, Bryan in fact is going to
>> set us back and harm the FL ham community. I am also going to talk to the
>> local hams in broward county that have a bigger reach into our local
>> repeater owners than I do.
> 
> The ARRL does not want to be involved, I've contacted them.
> 
>> IMPORTANT.To appoint someone to a committee to stop his legal attempts was
>> not a wise decision, contacting the FCC or ARRL for assistance in this
>> dispute should help resolve this.
> 
> To make a contract contingent on a party forgoing legal representation is not
> legal.  I only was asking for a members roster and the results of the past
> four elections from the board.  The fact they refused to provide this to a
> member is disgusting.  At that point, what option does one have other than to
> retain counsel?
> -- 
> Bryan Fields
> 
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