[FRC] FYI... Florida Repeater Council Information
Ron Wright
mccrpt at tampabay.rr.com
Mon Oct 3 16:21:55 EDT 2016
Well seems was getting emails abt FRC from one source. I hope all comments are given
And when only one person wants so many removed kinda goes to unreasonable.
Is good for many get involved.
73, Ron,n9ee/r
Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 3, 2016, at 1:52 PM, Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com> wrote:
>
> How are they not allowing all to communicate?
>
> 73, Steve N4IRS
>
>> On 10/3/2016 1:25 PM, mccrpt at tampabay.rr.com wrote:
>> I agree with Mickey, doing the work of the FRC requires commitment. It
>> aint an easy job. I for one would not want to see an inexperienced Ham
>> deciding coordination, someone who has not been involved with it for a
>> while. Each repeater owner has their own needs and the FRC work has to
>> do much more than assign pairs.
>>
>>
>> Just like this discussion and whoever started it, they are not allowing
>> all to communicate. Do we want this in FRC???
>>
>>
>> 73, ron, n9ee/r a know code Extra
>>
>> Ron Wright, N9EE/R
>> BSEE
>> Micro Computer Concepts
>> 352-683-4476
>> mccrpt at tampabay.rr.com
>>
>>
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>> *From:* FRC-Info <frc-info-bounces at lists.keekles.org> on behalf of
>> Mickey Baker <n4mb at arrl.net>
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 3, 2016 11:35 AM
>> *To:* Florida Repeater Council Discussion
>> *Subject:* Re: [FRC] FYI... Florida Repeater Council Information
>>
>> A couple of words of advice from an experienced IT engineer - who has
>> had an IT management position in Florida in the public sector as well as
>> worked at DoD:
>> 1. Anyone who doesn't want unpredictable emails on their corporate or
>> government email server shouldn't subscribe to open lists. Get a free
>> email account, like this one from Google and point all the groups to
>> that email.
>> 2. Anyone hoping that what they write in an email could remain private
>> should learn to use email encryption. I won't go into details, but...
>> 3. Anyone sending a plain language email should anticipate that email
>> being read by anyone anywhere.
>>
>> That said, I've found the entire FRC to be a slow moving, difficult to
>> deal with organization with antique web sites. Some of the directors are
>> a bit gruff and condescending, but I find that a common trait among long
>> term hams, particular trying to relate to the current crop of no-code
>> licensees. I include myself, as I quickly lose patience with folks who
>> don't know the basic things covered in the license material.
>>
>> I submitted a coordination request the day I got a message in May that
>> the W4AB 2m repeater coordination had expired - May 7, 2016. It was
>> approved over this weekend - almost 5 months to approve a registration
>> for a repeater that has been in operation on that frequency at that site
>> for 28 years.
>>
>> W4AB is currently not in the directory they publish, but now that the
>> "official" ARRL repeater directory is now RFinder, I can (and do) deal
>> directly with them for directory issues.
>>
>> My local director (Mark) has been very responsive, but he doesn't have
>> direct access to add to or edit the database!
>>
>> It is my understanding that coordinations are handled by Dana and he's
>> the only one with database access. Something might be going on in his
>> personal life that causes this delay, but it is the duty of people with
>> responsibility to engage with others to ensure succession of the
>> organization and the mission. This appears to be the point of failure in
>> many organizations but is key to the survival of that organization.
>>
>> All that said, here's the problem - if everyone on the board resigns or
>> gets otherwise terminated, someone needs to have the time, talent and
>> inclination to immediately recover data from wherever it is and create a
>> new database and start up a complete new system, while doing all the
>> things the current FRC are doing now... this will require cooperation
>> with the current directors, particularly Dana.
>>
>> Are we all ready for that?
>>
>> If so, let's go get this handed over. Exactly where and when is the
>> meeting next weekend?
>>
>> Mickey N4MB
>>
>>
>> Mickey Baker, N4MB
>> Fort Lauderdale, FL
>> /“Tell me, and I will listen. Show me, and I will understand. Involve
>> me, and I will learn.” /Teton Lakota, American Indian Saying.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Dave Messinger H. <dmessing at pbcgov.org
>> <mailto:dmessing at pbcgov.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Gentlemen (and Ladies, if any) ,____
>>
>> I don’t know where you got this e-mail from. I truly doubt you got
>> it legitimatelyfrom the FRC. ____
>>
>> __ __
>>
>> Regardless, ____
>>
>> I have not asked to be included in this group or any discussions, ____
>>
>> You are e-mailing my work/Government e-mail account (so everything
>> is open the Florida Sunshine Law),____
>>
>> And finally, I have never had any troubles with the Florida Repeater
>> Council. They have always acted quickly and fairly with any
>> questions or registration I have had.____
>>
>> __ __
>>
>> Mr. Fields,____
>>
>> I would ask that, in the future, you consider your actions a bit
>> more before blindly e-mailing a large group of people with your
>> grievances. ____
>>
>> __ __
>>
>> -----=====-----=====-----____
>>
>> *Dave H. Messinger____*
>>
>> *Communications Specialist____*
>>
>> *Palm Beach County Network Support Services____*
>>
>> *FCC Licenses: N4QPM, WQCA678____*
>>
>> cid:image002.png at 01CAB493.44E57100____
>>
>> __ __
>>
>> /Please Note: Due to Florida’s very broad records laws, most
>> written communications to or from County employees regarding County
>> business are public records, available to the public and media upon
>> request. Therefore, this written e-mail communication, including
>> your e-mail address, may be subject to public disclosure.____/
>>
>> __ __
>>
>> ---____
>>
>> __ __
>>
>> *From:*FRC-Info [mailto:frc-info-bounces at lists.keekles.org
>> <mailto:frc-info-bounces at lists.keekles.org>] *On Behalf Of
>> *kg4ugk at kg4ugk.com <mailto:kg4ugk at kg4ugk.com>
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 03, 2016 8:26 AM
>> *To:* Florida Repeater Council Discussion
>> <frc-info at lists.keekles.org <mailto:frc-info at lists.keekles.org>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information____
>>
>> __ __
>>
>> Back in 2002, Dana was extremely helpful in getting my coordination
>> completed.____
>>
>> ____
>>
>> Bryan, question. Why would you need a listing of unused pairs? It
>> seems counter productive to starting a new repeater, as well as
>> trying to find existing ones.____
>>
>> ____
>>
>> In my understanding and past experience, you request temporary
>> coordination and based on your location and desired output power,
>> they then assign you a frequency pair that won't interfere with
>> existing repeaters in the output powers RF range. They then give you
>> time to setup and test before providing full coordination.____
>>
>> ____
>>
>> Launching a repeater on an unused frequency pair, would potentially
>> cause interference to those setting one up in the future, and would
>> possibly result in a cease and deceit letter from the FCC when
>> someone else receives coordination for that pair.____
>>
>> ____
>>
>> Best regards,____
>>
>> Shawn Campbell____
>>
>> KG4UGK____
>>
>> ____
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: vern at highwayusa.com <mailto:vern at highwayusa.com>
>> Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 6:58am
>> To: "Florida Repeater Council Discussion"
>> <frc-info at lists.keekles.org <mailto:frc-info at lists.keekles.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information____
>>
>>
>> I must say that I have tried several times to contact the
>> council to see if I could fire my repeater back up on my
>> old pair, and have heard nothing. I thought they were
>> defunct until I saw this email come through.
>>
>> Vern
>> KI4ONW
>>
>> >
>> > P.S. Please feel free to discuss this on list. If you
>> >wish to not be a part of this discussion you can remove
>> >yourself using the link at the bottom. I'm happy to
>> >oblige your wishes via direct email as well if you have
>> >any questions.
>> >
>> >
>> >
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