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<DIV>Bryan,</DIV>
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<DIV>I am the Repeater Trustee for our Radio Club and we have three (3) active
repeaters currently. I managed to get my coordinations submitted (and
received, hopefully) on Sept 29. The coordinations included 3 for active
repeaters and a fourth coordination to release a coordinated pair, we are no
longer using. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I have been dealing with the FRC for several years and have found them to
be responsive. This year I sent a request to the DBM (Data Base Manager)
for the information they had for our repeaters, and received it within two
days. I'm happy with that. Normally, I would expect a response for
our coordination updates to be received within a week. I'm expecting
it to take a bit longer this year since it appears that just about everyone is
coordinating on Sept 30. Hopefully, they will spread that out over the
next year or two.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Ron,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thank you for your comments. I'm aware of your experience and your
extensive work with repeaters. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>All,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I'm not happy about the FRC web site being hacked. I've worked with
computers (yes, mainframes, too) since 1958, as a programmer, systems
programmer, systems analyst, systems manager, etc. Some idiot hacking the
database does us all harm. I hope the FRC catches them and has them
arrested. They need to pay for the crime. (Yes, I was a computer
security specialist for awhile, too).</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>While the FRC may need some reorganization, we should do it within the
rules, for valid reasons, and not in a fit of anger.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>73, Steve KI4LVH (Extra, with code)</DIV>
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>In a message dated 10/3/2016 9:11:36 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
mccrpt@tampabay.rr.com writes:</DIV>
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<P>Bryan,</P>
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<P>I ask have you built and maintained a repeater in Florida??? Not just
set on a board in a club. I see nothing in your Ham resume that states
this. Being a Network Architect qualifies you for little in repeaters
and in electronics.</P>
<P><BR></P>
<P>I've worked with the FRC for over 20 years and find they do have problems,
but for repeater coordination are one of the best I've seen.<BR></P>
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<DIV id=Signature>73, ron, n9ee/r a know code Extra<BR>
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<DIV>Ron Wright, N9EE/R
<DIV>BSEE</DIV>
<DIV>Micro Computer Concepts</DIV>
<DIV>352-683-4476</DIV></DIV>
<DIV>mccrpt@tampabay.rr.com</DIV></DIV><BR><BR>
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face="Calibri, sans-serif"><B>From:</B> FRC-Info
<frc-info-bounces@lists.keekles.org> on behalf of Bryan Fields
<Bryan@bryanfields.net><BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 2, 2016 10:22
PM<BR><B>To:</B> frc-info@lists.keekles.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [FRC] Florida
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<P class=MsoNoSpacing>Greetings and welcome to the Florida Repeater Discussion
List,</P>
<P class=MsoNoSpacing> </P>
<P class=MsoNoSpacing>I am Bryan Fields, W9CR.<SPAN> </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNoSpacing> </P>
<P class=MsoNoSpacing>I’m involved in amateur radio in the Tampa Bay area,
with membership in four local clubs and chairman of the Technical Committee
for my local group. </P>
<P class=MsoNoSpacing> </P>
<P class=MsoNoSpacing>Professionally I am a Network Architect with a major
telecom company.<SPAN> </SPAN>I’ve been a licensed amateur since 1995
(over 2/3 of my life), hold a GROL+Radar and have a background in
cellular/microwave networks. </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Fellow Amateurs, the FRC
is an organization run amuck. Incompetent directors are managing it,
flouting the bylaws, violating Florida Law, and ignoring member needs.
<SPAN> </SPAN>I am asking for your proxy for the upcoming FRC
meeting.</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">It has failed in its
ability to coordinate operations of amateur radio repeaters in the following
ways:</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"></SPAN> </P>
<P></P>
<UL>
<LI><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings"><SPAN><SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Publication of the FRC database on a public
website</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"></SPAN>
<UL>
<LI><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">This database dump in MySQL format
and the associated webpages show without a doubt the level of incompetency
in the programming behind the database.<SPAN> </SPAN>This is nothing
but gross negligence on the part of Director Rodakis and Director
Lavender.<SPAN> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings"><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT: 7pt "Times New Roman"'> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"></SPAN>
<LI><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Per the coordination policy,
locations are to be kept secret, however a Reddit user was kind enough to
post a Google earth KML showing the coordinated location of every repeater
in the state.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings"><SPAN></SPAN></SPAN>
<LI><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings"><SPAN><SPAN> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">All your personal data, phone, email, home
address, repeater site address and Repeater Site GPS coordinates are
published.<BR><BR></SPAN></LI></UL>
<LI><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Length of the coordination process is
unacceptable! </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"></SPAN>
<UL>
<LI><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">As of this writing coordination
applications post 1/25/2016 have not been processed.<SPAN>
</SPAN>It’s <B><I>October</I></B>!</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings"><SPAN></SPAN></SPAN>
<LI><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings"><SPAN><SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">If the coordinator cannot process
applications in a reasonable time, he needs to step down.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"></SPAN>
<LI><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Renewals have not been processed
post 5/7/2016!<SPAN> </SPAN>As most coordinations expire on
9/30/2016, this means no members may vote under the bylaws!<SPAN>
</SPAN>This applies to the board as well.</SPAN><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"></SPAN></LI></UL></LI></UL>
<UL>
<LI><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings"><SPAN><SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Violation of the coordination policy by the
directors</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"></SPAN>
<LI><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Willful violation of the bylaws by
the directors</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings"><SPAN></SPAN></SPAN>
<LI><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings"><SPAN><SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Willful violations of FS 617 regarding members
request for information</SPAN>
<UL>
<LI><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Acknowledged receipt of this by
President Kassis</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings"><SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> </LI></UL>
<LI><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings"><SPAN><SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Publicly stating the policy of the FRC is “is
unable to search for available frequencies”, when this is the FCC definition
of a frequency coordinator.<SPAN> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"></SPAN>
<LI><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">When they do suggest frequencies
there active repeaters on them, some even coordinated well under the
radius.</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings"><SPAN></SPAN></SPAN>
<LI><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings"><SPAN><SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Inventing new coordination polices on the fly
without approval of the board</SPAN> </LI></UL>
<P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">The FRC must be reformed
if it wishes to keep its legitimacy.<SPAN> </SPAN>Frequency coordination
is voluntary in amateur radio, and there is little reason for amateur radio
operators in Florida to seek coordination from the FRC under this current
administration.</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">My goal is to transform
this organization into a healthy helping hand for repeater operators and other
amateur spectrum users.<SPAN> </SPAN>No one should be answered with
contempt for months after putting an application in for coordination only to
be told “fill it out again, we can’t edit it”.<SPAN> </SPAN>This should
not be an organization which exists as a good-ol’-boy system breading
contempt; rather one which operates in the open, in accordance with its
bylaws, and accountable to its members.</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">The FRC should ask how
to say “Yes” rather than saying “No” in working with their members and other
amateurs. </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.25in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings">My plan to get us on the right track
is:<BR></SPAN></P>
<P></P>
<UL>
<LI><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings"><SPAN><SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Remove the current directors for gross
incompetency and exposing the organization to liability:</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"></SPAN>
<UL>
<LI><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Ray Kassis, N4LEM</SPAN>
<LI><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Dana Rodakis, K4LK</SPAN>
<LI><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">(Glenn) Mike Fletcher, NI4M</SPAN>
<LI><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Chuck Lavender, W4CLL</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"></SPAN> </LI></UL>
<LI><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Demand new elections for existing
directors in compliance with the bylaws.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings"><SPAN></SPAN></SPAN>
<LI><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings"><SPAN><SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Establish a bylaw committee to rewrite the
bylaws and change the organization structure to better serve all amateurs in
Florida.</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings"><SPAN></SPAN></SPAN>
<LI><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings"><SPAN><SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Establish a development process for new
policies from the membership</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings"><SPAN></SPAN></SPAN>
<LI><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings"><SPAN><SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Encourage input from the membership based on
sound technical policies</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings"><SPAN></SPAN></SPAN>
<LI><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings"><SPAN><SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">De-centralize coordination by having a web
enabled database be accessible to the public showing all history of an
application through coordination.<SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"></SPAN>
<LI><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">No one person should be the
gatekeeper of the database.<SPAN> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings"><SPAN></SPAN></SPAN>
<LI><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings"><SPAN><SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Make all records of the FRC open to the public,
as any non-profit serving the public interest must be.</SPAN> </LI></UL>
<P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">I will make a motion to
accomplish this at the next meeting at the Melbourne Hamfest
meeting.<SPAN> </SPAN>To make this happen, I am asking for your
proxy, if you’re a member of the FRC.<SPAN> </SPAN>You will need
to print out this form and sign it, then send a scan or legible picture of it
to me via email or text message. If you can attend the meeting, please do
so.</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">It’s $10 to become a
member on the FRC website and it buys the right to have a say in the future of
amateur radio in Florida.<SPAN> </SPAN></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">I fully expect to be
shouted down by the board, but as members we cannot be ignored.<SPAN>
</SPAN>I wish to resolve this via the membership, but if ignored I do intend
to comply the board, by any legal means, to follow the bylaws and FS
617.</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">I need your proxy by the
Friday, October 7, 2016.<SPAN> </SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">73’s and see you at
Melbourne,</SPAN></P><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"></SPAN><FONT
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri>Bryan Fields, W9CR</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri><BR></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri>P.S. Please feel free to discuss this on
list. If you wish to not be a part of this discussion you can remove
yourself using the link at the bottom. I'm happy to oblige your wishes
via direct email as well if you have any questions. </FONT><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"></SPAN></P>
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