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<div>Please remove me from this email group I have over 80 emails in my inbox please stop I've asked several people and I don't understand why I'm not getting any response please remove me from your email list</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1475535078270_14401"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yiv6467650364composer_signature"><div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757;">Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S®4, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone</div></div><br clear="none"><br clear="none">-------- Original message --------<br clear="none">From: Nilo Hernandez <hernandeznilo@gmail.com> <br clear="none">Date: 10/03/2016  3:45 PM  (GMT-05:00) <br clear="none">To: Florida Repeater Council Discussion <frc-info@lists.keekles.org> <br clear="none">Subject: Re: [FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information <br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div dir="ltr"><div class="yiv6467650364gmail_default" style="color:#660000;">By the way... they are self elected. In order to get rid of them, it must be by elections. The president is elected by the Directors. we can discuss further at another time.</div><div class="yiv6467650364gmail_default" style="color:#660000;"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv6467650364gmail_default" style="color:#660000;">73</div><div class="yiv6467650364gmail_default" style="color:#660000;">w4hn</div></div><div class="yiv6467650364gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="yiv6467650364gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div> </div><div> </div><div><font color="#3333ff"><font style="background-color:rgb(0,0,255);"><font color="#073763" style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);">Nilo A. Hernandez, M.S.</font><br clear="none"></font><font color="#073763">Personal:</font> <a href="mailto:HernandezNilo@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:HernandezNilo@gmail.com"><font color="#0000ff">HernandezNilo@gmail.com</font></a></font></div><div><font color="#3333ff">AARP: <a href="mailto:nhernandez@aarp.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:nhernandez@aarp.org">nhernandez@aarp.org</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><a href="" rel="nofollow" shape="rect"><font color="#0000ff">305-219-2252</font></a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><font color="#0c343d"><u>Confidentiality Notice</u>: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message</font>. </font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br clear="none"><div class="yiv6467650364gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 2:58 PM,  <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:k2hxc@comcast.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:k2hxc@comcast.net">k2hxc@comcast.net</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv6467650364gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="yiv6467650364yqt2957932319" id="yiv6467650364yqt27931"><div><div style="font-family:Arial;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;"><div>To Bryan Fields</div><div>From Michael Wolf</div><div>re: FRC </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I did not ask to be on the discussion group nor did I appreciate the emails.</div><div>I do agree that the things might need to be improved<span style="font-size:12pt;"> with the FRC however</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12pt;">i DO NOT wish to recieve any more emails. Please REMOVE me from this </span></div><div><span style="font-size:12pt;">disscussion group and please DO NOT .. I repeat DO NOT SEND ANY MORE </span></div><div><span style="font-size:12pt;">EMAILS REGARDING THIS.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12pt;">I will be up in Melbourne and will hopefully attend the FRC meeting.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12pt;">Thank you</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12pt;"><br clear="none"></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12pt;"><br clear="none"></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12pt;"><br clear="none"></span></div><hr id="yiv6467650364m_1578078552411356360zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Bryan Fields" <<a href="mailto:Bryan@bryanfields.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Bryan@bryanfields.net">Bryan@bryanfields.net</a>><br clear="none"><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:frc-info@lists.keekles.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:frc-info@lists.keekles.org">frc-info@lists.keekles.org</a><br clear="none"><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, October 2, 2016 10:22:22 PM<br clear="none"><b>Subject: </b>[FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information<br clear="none"><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv6467650364m_1578078552411356360MsoNoSpacing">Greetings and welcome to the Florida Repeater Discussion List,</div><div class="yiv6467650364m_1578078552411356360MsoNoSpacing"> </div><div class="yiv6467650364m_1578078552411356360MsoNoSpacing">I am Bryan Fields, W9CR.<span>  </span></div><div class="yiv6467650364m_1578078552411356360MsoNoSpacing"> </div><div class="yiv6467650364m_1578078552411356360MsoNoSpacing">I’m involved in amateur radio in the Tampa Bay area, with membership in four local clubs and chairman of the Technical Committee for my local group.</div><div class="yiv6467650364m_1578078552411356360MsoNoSpacing"> </div><div class="yiv6467650364m_1578078552411356360MsoNoSpacing">Professionally I am a Network Architect with a major telecom company.<span>  </span>I’ve been a licensed amateur since 1995 (over 2/3 of my life), hold a GROL+Radar and have a background in cellular/microwave networks.</div><div class="yiv6467650364MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;"> </span></div><div class="yiv6467650364MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Fellow Amateurs, the FRC is an organization run amuck.  Incompetent directors are managing it, flouting the bylaws, violating Florida Law, and ignoring member needs. <span> </span>I am asking for your proxy for the upcoming FRC meeting.</span></div><div class="yiv6467650364MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;"> </span></div><div class="yiv6467650364MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;">It has failed in its ability to coordinate operations of amateur radio repeaters in the following ways:</span></div><div class="yiv6467650364MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;"> </span></div><ul><li><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span><span></span></span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Publication of the FRC database on a public website</span><span style="font-family:Calibri;"></span></li><ul><li><span style="font-family:Calibri;">This database dump in MySQL format and the associated webpages show without a doubt the level of incompetency in the programming behind the database.<span>  </span>This is nothing but gross negligence on the part of Director Rodakis and Director Lavender.<span>  </span></span><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span><span style="font:7pt;"> </span></span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;"></span></li><li><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Per the coordination policy, locations are to be kept secret, however a Reddit user was kind enough to post a Google earth KML showing the coordinated location of every repeater in the state.</span><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span></span></span></li><li><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span><span> </span></span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;">All your personal data, phone, email, home address, repeater site address and Repeater Site GPS coordinates are published.<br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> </span></li></ul><li><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Length of the coordination process is unacceptable! </span><span style="font-family:Calibri;"></span></li><ul><li><span style="font-family:Calibri;">As of this writing coordination applications post 1/25/2016 have not been processed.<span>  </span>It’s <b><i>October</i></b>!</span><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span></span></span></li><li><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span><span></span></span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;">If the coordinator cannot process applications in a reasonable time, he needs to step down.</span><span style="font-family:Calibri;"></span></li><li><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Renewals have not been processed post 5/7/2016!<span>   </span>As most coordinations expire on 9/30/2016, this means no members may vote under the bylaws!<span>  </span>This applies to the board as well.</span><br clear="none"> <span style="font-family:Calibri;"></span></li></ul></ul><ul><li><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span><span></span></span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Violation of the coordination policy by the directors</span><span style="font-family:Calibri;"></span></li><li><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Willful violation of the bylaws by the directors</span><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span></span></span></li><li><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span><span></span></span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Willful violations of FS 617 regarding members request for information</span></li><ul><li><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Acknowledged receipt of this by President Kassis</span><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span></span></span></li></ul><li><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span><span></span></span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Publicly stating the policy of the FRC is “is unable to search for available frequencies”, when this is the FCC definition of a frequency coordinator.<span> </span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;"></span></li><li><span style="font-family:Calibri;">When they do suggest frequencies there active repeaters on them, some even coordinated well under the radius.</span><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span></span></span></li><li><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span><span></span></span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Inventing new coordination polices on the fly without approval of the board</span></li></ul><div class="yiv6467650364MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;"> </span></div><div class="yiv6467650364MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;">The FRC must be reformed if it wishes to keep its legitimacy.<span>  </span>Frequency coordination is voluntary in amateur radio, and there is little reason for amateur radio operators in Florida to seek coordination from the FRC under this current administration.</span></div><div class="yiv6467650364MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;"> </span></div><div class="yiv6467650364MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;">My goal is to transform this organization into a healthy helping hand for repeater operators and other amateur spectrum users.<span>  </span>No one should be answered with contempt for months after putting an application in for coordination only to be told “fill it out again, we can’t edit it”.<span>  </span>This should not be an organization which exists as a good-ol’-boy system breading contempt; rather one which operates in the open, in accordance with its bylaws, and accountable to its members.</span></div><div class="yiv6467650364MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;"> </span></div><div class="yiv6467650364MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;">The FRC should ask how to say “Yes” rather than saying “No” in working with their members and other amateurs. </span></div><div class="yiv6467650364MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;"> </span></div><div class="yiv6467650364m_1578078552411356360MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="margin-left:.25in;"><span style="font-family:Wingdings;">My plan to get us on the right track is:<br clear="none"> </span></div><ul><li><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span><span></span></span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Remove the current directors for gross incompetency and exposing the organization to liability:</span><span style="font-family:Calibri;"></span></li><ul><li><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Ray Kassis, N4LEM</span></li><li><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Dana Rodakis, K4LK</span></li><li><span style="font-family:Calibri;">(Glenn) Mike Fletcher, NI4M</span></li><li><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Chuck Lavender, W4CLL</span><span style="font-family:Calibri;"></span></li></ul><li><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Demand new elections for existing directors in compliance with the bylaws.</span><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span></span></span></li><li><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span><span></span></span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Establish a bylaw committee to rewrite the bylaws and change the organization structure to better serve all amateurs in Florida.</span><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span></span></span></li><li><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span><span></span></span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Establish a development process for new policies from the membership</span><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span></span></span></li><li><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span><span></span></span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Encourage input from the membership based on sound technical policies</span><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span></span></span></li><li><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span><span></span></span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;">De-centralize coordination by having a web enabled database be accessible to the public showing all history of an application through coordination.<span></span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;"></span></li><li><span style="font-family:Calibri;">No one person should be the gatekeeper of the database.<span> </span></span><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span></span></span></li><li><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span><span></span></span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Make all records of the FRC open to the public, as any non-profit serving the public interest must be.</span></li></ul><div class="yiv6467650364MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;"> </span></div><div class="yiv6467650364MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;">I will make a motion to accomplish this at the next meeting at the Melbourne Hamfest meeting.<span>   </span>To make this happen, I am asking for your proxy, if you’re a member of the FRC.<span>   </span>You will need to print out this form and sign it, then send a scan or legible picture of it to me via email or text message. If you can attend the meeting, please do so.</span></div><div class="yiv6467650364MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;"> </span></div><div class="yiv6467650364MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;">It’s $10 to become a member on the FRC website and it buys the right to have a say in the future of amateur radio in Florida.<span>    </span></span></div><div class="yiv6467650364MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;"><a href="http://florida-repeaters.org/donate.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">http://florida-repeaters.org/ donate.htm</a></span></div><div class="yiv6467650364MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;"> </span></div><div class="yiv6467650364MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;">I fully expect to be shouted down by the board, but as members we cannot be ignored.<span>  </span>I wish to resolve this via the membership, but if ignored I do intend to comply the board, by any legal means, to follow the bylaws and FS 617.</span></div><div class="yiv6467650364MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;"> </span></div><div class="yiv6467650364MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;">I need your proxy by the Friday, October 7, 2016.<span>  </span></span></div><div class="yiv6467650364MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;">73’s and see you at Melbourne,</span></div><div><span style="font-family:Calibri;"></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;">  </span></div><div class="yiv6467650364MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Bryan Fields, W9CR</span></div><div class="yiv6467650364MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;"><br clear="none"> </span></div><div class="yiv6467650364MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;">P.S. Please feel free to discuss this on list.  If you wish to not be a part of this discussion you can remove yourself using the link at the bottom.  I'm happy to oblige your wishes via direct email as well if you have any questions.  </span><br clear="none"> <span style="font-family:Calibri;"></span></div><br clear="none">______________________________ _________________<br clear="none">FRC-Info mailing list<br clear="none"><a href="mailto:FRC-Info@lists.keekles.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:FRC-Info@lists.keekles.org">FRC-Info@lists.keekles.org</a><br clear="none"><a href="http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">http://lists.keekles.org/cgi- bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info</a><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div></div></div></div><br clear="none">______________________________ _________________<br clear="none">
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