<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div><span></span></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1475535078270_20009">????????????????????????<br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1475535078270_20020" style="display: block;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1475535078270_20019" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1475535078270_20018" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> "k2hxc@comcast.net" <k2hxc@comcast.net><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Florida Repeater Council Discussion <frc-info@lists.keekles.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, October 3, 2016 2:58 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1475535078270_20017"><br><div id="yiv9673775776"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1475535078270_20023"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1475535078270_20022" style="font-family:Arial;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;"><div>To Bryan Fields</div><div>From Michael Wolf</div><div>re: FRC </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1475535078270_20021"><br clear="none"></div><div>I did not ask to be on the discussion group nor did I appreciate the emails.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1475535078270_20024">I do agree that the things might need to be improved<span style="font-size:12pt;"> with the FRC however</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12pt;">i DO NOT wish to recieve any more emails. Please REMOVE me from this </span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1475535078270_20026"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1475535078270_20025" style="font-size:12pt;">disscussion group and please DO NOT .. I repeat DO NOT SEND ANY MORE </span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1475535078270_20028"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1475535078270_20027" style="font-size:12pt;">EMAILS REGARDING THIS.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12pt;">I will be up in Melbourne and will hopefully attend the FRC meeting.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12pt;">Thank you</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12pt;"><br clear="none"></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1475535078270_20029"><span style="font-size:12pt;"><br clear="none"></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12pt;"><br clear="none"></span></div><hr id="yiv9673775776zwchr"><div class="yiv9673775776yqt5779381205" id="yiv9673775776yqtfd88199"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Bryan Fields" <Bryan@bryanfields.net><br clear="none"><b>To: </b>frc-info@lists.keekles.org<br clear="none"><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, October 2, 2016 10:22:22 PM<br clear="none"><b>Subject: </b>[FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information<br clear="none"><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv9673775776MsoNoSpacing">Greetings and welcome to the Florida Repeater Discussion List,</div><div class="yiv9673775776MsoNoSpacing"> </div><div class="yiv9673775776MsoNoSpacing">I am Bryan Fields, W9CR.<span> </span></div><div class="yiv9673775776MsoNoSpacing"> </div><div class="yiv9673775776MsoNoSpacing">I’m involved in amateur radio in the Tampa Bay area, with membership in four local clubs and chairman of the Technical Committee for my local group.</div><div class="yiv9673775776MsoNoSpacing"> </div><div class="yiv9673775776MsoNoSpacing">Professionally I am a Network Architect with a major telecom company.<span> </span>I’ve been a licensed amateur since 1995 (over 2/3 of my life), hold a GROL+Radar and have a background in cellular/microwave networks.</div><div class="yiv9673775776MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;"> </span></div><div class="yiv9673775776MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Fellow Amateurs, the FRC is an organization run amuck. Incompetent directors are managing it, flouting the bylaws, violating Florida Law, and ignoring member needs. <span> </span>I am asking for your proxy for the upcoming FRC meeting.</span></div><div class="yiv9673775776MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;"> </span></div><div class="yiv9673775776MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;">It has failed in its ability to coordinate operations of amateur radio repeaters in the following ways:</span></div><div class="yiv9673775776MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;"> </span></div><ul><li><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span><span style="font:7pt;"></span></span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Publication of the FRC database on a public website</span><span style="font-family:Calibri;"></span></li><ul><li><span style="font-family:Calibri;">This database dump in MySQL format and the associated webpages show without a doubt the level of incompetency in the programming behind the database.<span> </span>This is nothing but gross negligence on the part of Director Rodakis and Director Lavender.<span> </span></span><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span><span style="font:7pt;"> </span></span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;"></span></li><li><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Per the coordination policy, locations are to be kept secret, however a Reddit user was kind enough to post a Google earth KML showing the coordinated location of every repeater in the state.</span><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span></span></span></li><li><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span><span style="font:7pt;"> </span></span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;">All your personal data, phone, email, home address, repeater site address and Repeater Site GPS coordinates are published.<br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> </span></li></ul><li><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Length of the coordination process is unacceptable! </span><span style="font-family:Calibri;"></span></li><ul><li><span style="font-family:Calibri;">As of this writing coordination applications post 1/25/2016 have not been processed.<span> </span>It’s <b><i>October</i></b>!</span><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span></span></span></li><li><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span><span style="font:7pt;"></span></span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;">If the coordinator cannot process applications in a reasonable time, he needs to step down.</span><span style="font-family:Calibri;"></span></li><li><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Renewals have not been processed post 5/7/2016!<span> </span>As most coordinations expire on 9/30/2016, this means no members may vote under the bylaws!<span> </span>This applies to the board as well.</span><br clear="none"> <span style="font-family:Calibri;"></span></li></ul></ul><ul><li><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span><span style="font:7pt;"></span></span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Violation of the coordination policy by the directors</span><span style="font-family:Calibri;"></span></li><li><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Willful violation of the bylaws by the directors</span><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span></span></span></li><li><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span><span style="font:7pt;"></span></span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Willful violations of FS 617 regarding members request for information</span></li><ul><li><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Acknowledged receipt of this by President Kassis</span><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span></span></span></li></ul><li><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span><span style="font:7pt;"></span></span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Publicly stating the policy of the FRC is “is unable to search for available frequencies”, when this is the FCC definition of a frequency coordinator.<span> </span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;"></span></li><li><span style="font-family:Calibri;">When they do suggest frequencies there active repeaters on them, some even coordinated well under the radius.</span><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span></span></span></li><li><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span><span style="font:7pt;"></span></span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Inventing new coordination polices on the fly without approval of the board</span></li></ul><div class="yiv9673775776MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;"> </span></div><div class="yiv9673775776MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;">The FRC must be reformed if it wishes to keep its legitimacy.<span> </span>Frequency coordination is voluntary in amateur radio, and there is little reason for amateur radio operators in Florida to seek coordination from the FRC under this current administration.</span></div><div class="yiv9673775776MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;"> </span></div><div class="yiv9673775776MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;">My goal is to transform this organization into a healthy helping hand for repeater operators and other amateur spectrum users.<span> </span>No one should be answered with contempt for months after putting an application in for coordination only to be told “fill it out again, we can’t edit it”.<span> </span>This should not be an organization which exists as a good-ol’-boy system breading contempt; rather one which operates in the open, in accordance with its bylaws, and accountable to its members.</span></div><div class="yiv9673775776MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;"> </span></div><div class="yiv9673775776MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;">The FRC should ask how to say “Yes” rather than saying “No” in working with their members and other amateurs. </span></div><div class="yiv9673775776MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;"> </span></div><div class="yiv9673775776MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="margin-left:.25in;"><span style="font-family:Wingdings;">My plan to get us on the right track is:<br clear="none"> </span></div><ul><li><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span><span style="font:7pt;"></span></span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Remove the current directors for gross incompetency and exposing the organization to liability:</span><span style="font-family:Calibri;"></span></li><ul><li><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Ray Kassis, N4LEM</span></li><li><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Dana Rodakis, K4LK</span></li><li><span style="font-family:Calibri;">(Glenn) Mike Fletcher, NI4M</span></li><li><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Chuck Lavender, W4CLL</span><span style="font-family:Calibri;"></span></li></ul><li><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Demand new elections for existing directors in compliance with the bylaws.</span><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span></span></span></li><li><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span><span style="font:7pt;"></span></span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Establish a bylaw committee to rewrite the bylaws and change the organization structure to better serve all amateurs in Florida.</span><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span></span></span></li><li><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span><span style="font:7pt;"></span></span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Establish a development process for new policies from the membership</span><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span></span></span></li><li><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span><span style="font:7pt;"></span></span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Encourage input from the membership based on sound technical policies</span><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span></span></span></li><li><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span><span style="font:7pt;"></span></span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;">De-centralize coordination by having a web enabled database be accessible to the public showing all history of an application through coordination.<span></span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;"></span></li><li><span style="font-family:Calibri;">No one person should be the gatekeeper of the database.<span> </span></span><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span></span></span></li><li><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span><span style="font:7pt;"></span></span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Make all records of the FRC open to the public, as any non-profit serving the public interest must be.</span></li></ul><div class="yiv9673775776MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;"> </span></div><div class="yiv9673775776MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;">I will make a motion to accomplish this at the next meeting at the Melbourne Hamfest meeting.<span> </span>To make this happen, I am asking for your proxy, if you’re a member of the FRC.<span> </span>You will need to print out this form and sign it, then send a scan or legible picture of it to me via email or text message. If you can attend the meeting, please do so.</span></div><div class="yiv9673775776MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;"> </span></div><div class="yiv9673775776MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;">It’s $10 to become a member on the FRC website and it buys the right to have a say in the future of amateur radio in Florida.<span> </span></span></div><div class="yiv9673775776MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;"><a href="http://florida-repeaters.org/donate.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">http://florida-repeaters.org/donate.htm</a></span></div><div class="yiv9673775776MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;"> </span></div><div class="yiv9673775776MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;">I fully expect to be shouted down by the board, but as members we cannot be ignored.<span> </span>I wish to resolve this via the membership, but if ignored I do intend to comply the board, by any legal means, to follow the bylaws and FS 617.</span></div><div class="yiv9673775776MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;"> </span></div><div class="yiv9673775776MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;">I need your proxy by the Friday, October 7, 2016.<span> </span></span></div><div class="yiv9673775776MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;">73’s and see you at Melbourne,</span></div><div><span style="font-family:Calibri;"></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;"> </span></div><div class="yiv9673775776MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;">Bryan Fields, W9CR</span></div><div class="yiv9673775776MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;"><br clear="none"> </span></div><div class="yiv9673775776MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;">P.S. 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