<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body><div>And if so.. I advise you to voice your opinion as that's the only way to be heard, as well as hopefully resolve any concerns the ham community may have.</div><div><br></div><div>In no way am I attempting to discredit Bryan or his views. We are all entitled to our own opinions. And in fact if it wasn't for this list, I wouldn't have even know about the scheduled meetings. I'm considering attending one myself solely because of this thread.</div><div><br></div><div>I think someone else mentioned earlier, if there's a suggestion or a plan on how things can be executed better, than bring it to everyone's attention.</div><div><br></div><div>But pointing the finger at someone else isn't going to resolve anything. And believe that Bryan may get some animosity due to his methods of contacting us.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div id="composer_signature"><div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757" dir="auto">Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.</div></div><div><br></div><div style="font-size:100%;color:#000000"><!-- originalMessage --><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Frank Echanique <ki4ijq@flecom.net> </div><div>Date: 10/4/16  10:28 PM  (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: Florida Repeater Council Discussion <frc-info@lists.keekles.org> </div><div>Subject: Re: [FRC] FYI... Florida Repeater Council Information </div><div><br></div></div><div dir="ltr">people have had good interactions with the FRC? I can assure you that wasn't my experience‚Ķ <div><br></div><div>I don't think I have ever dealt with a more dysfunctional organization </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 10:24 PM, kg4ugk <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kg4ugk@kg4ugk.com" target="_blank">kg4ugk@kg4ugk.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>Seeing that no one opted in for this email list, FRC did not provide him with contact information, and in fact tried/attempted to keep our information private.</div><div><br></div><div>And the fact Bryan owns/hosts <a href="http://lists.keekles.org" target="_blank">lists.keekles.org</a> (the server responsible for this newly created list)</div><div><br></div><div>I suggest that you contact his registrar/hosting providers abuse system to form a complaint.</div><div><br></div><div>Enom.com:</div><div><a href="mailto:abuse@enom.com" target="_blank">abuse@enom.com</a></div><div><br></div><div><span style="color:rgb(90,90,90);font-family:monospace;font-size:13px;letter-spacing:0.75px;word-spacing:0.13px;background-color:rgb(245,245,245)">Registrant Name: BRYAN FIELDS</span><br style="color:rgb(90,90,90);font-family:monospace;font-size:13px;letter-spacing:0.75px;word-spacing:0.13px"><span style="color:rgb(90,90,90);font-family:monospace;font-size:13px;letter-spacing:0.75px;word-spacing:0.13px;background-color:rgb(245,245,245)">Registrant Organization: </span><br style="color:rgb(90,90,90);font-family:monospace;font-size:13px;letter-spacing:0.75px;word-spacing:0.13px"><span style="color:rgb(90,90,90);font-family:monospace;font-size:13px;letter-spacing:0.75px;word-spacing:0.13px;background-color:rgb(245,245,245)">Registrant Street: 501 80TH <wbr>AVE</span><br style="color:rgb(90,90,90);font-family:monospace;font-size:13px;letter-spacing:0.75px;word-spacing:0.13px"><span style="color:rgb(90,90,90);font-family:monospace;font-size:13px;letter-spacing:0.75px;word-spacing:0.13px;background-color:rgb(245,245,245)">Registrant City: ST PETE BEACH</span><br style="color:rgb(90,90,90);font-family:monospace;font-size:13px;letter-spacing:0.75px;word-spacing:0.13px"><span style="color:rgb(90,90,90);font-family:monospace;font-size:13px;letter-spacing:0.75px;word-spacing:0.13px;background-color:rgb(245,245,245)">Registrant State/Province: FL</span><br style="color:rgb(90,90,90);font-family:monospace;font-size:13px;letter-spacing:0.75px;word-spacing:0.13px"><span style="color:rgb(90,90,90);font-family:monospace;font-size:13px;letter-spacing:0.75px;word-spacing:0.13px;background-color:rgb(245,245,245)">Registrant Postal Code: 33706</span><br style="color:rgb(90,90,90);font-family:monospace;font-size:13px;letter-spacing:0.75px;word-spacing:0.13px"><span style="color:rgb(90,90,90);font-family:monospace;font-size:13px;letter-spacing:0.75px;word-spacing:0.13px;background-color:rgb(245,245,245)">Registrant Country: US</span><br style="color:rgb(90,90,90);font-family:monospace;font-size:13px;letter-spacing:0.75px;word-spacing:0.13px"><span style="color:rgb(90,90,90);font-family:monospace;font-size:13px;letter-spacing:0.75px;word-spacing:0.13px;background-color:rgb(245,245,245)">Registrant Phone: <a href="tel:%2B1.7274091194" value="+17274091194" target="_blank">+1.<wbr>7274091194</a></span><br style="color:rgb(90,90,90);font-family:monospace;font-size:13px;letter-spacing:0.75px;word-spa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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="vhferris@comcast.net" href="mailto:vhferris@comcast.net" target="_blank">vernon ferris</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 04, 2016 6:09 PM</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:#1f497d">Hi 
Ron and John,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:#1f497d">I 
have dealt with Dana on three repeaters, mine and two that the county turned 
over to me as ARES EC for the county and as a volunteer himself he has done a 
good job. And I agree with both of you.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:#1f497d">Have 
a good week and keep your feet dry.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:#1f497d">Vern, 
W4NEK<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> FRC-Info 
[mailto:<a href="mailto:frc-info-bounces@lists.keekles.org" target="_blank">frc-info-bounces@<wbr>lists.keekles.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of 
</b><a href="mailto:mccrpt@tampabay.rr.com" target="_blank">mccrpt@tampabay.rr.com</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 04, 2016 12:43 
PM<br><b>To:</b> Florida Repeater Council Discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: 
[FRC] FYI... Florida Repeater Council 
Information<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div>
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<p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black">John,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black">Yes, I think 
you are correct.  Just seems I was not getting replies from others.  
have been getting today.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black"><u></u><u></u></span> </p>
<p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black">It is good to 
have these discussions and the FRC does need guidance from us into 
repeaters.  Just seems one guy has a beef and wants to take over and he has 
little to do with repeaters really.  More of a club board member.  And 
being into the internet service or an IT guy is very little tech knowledge of 
this subject.  Engineering firms do not consider IT guys technical 
people.  But they have a valuable place.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black"><u></u><u></u></span> </p>
<p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black">I think the 
FRC does a good job, but they are often slow.  Our District 4 director has 
responded to me quickly in last year when i need assistance in getting a pair 
for a repeater.  not sure what other directors do.  Dana is very slow, 
I think he picks one Saturday in the month and works on what he has received, 
hi.  But he is very knowledgeable about the issues...has lots of experience 
over the last 20 years dealing with the issues.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black">73, ron, n9ee/r a know 
code Extra<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black">Ron Wright, N9EE/R 
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black">Micro Computer 
Concepts<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black"><a href="mailto:mccrpt@tampabay.rr.com" target="_blank">mccrpt@tampabay.rr.com</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black"> 
FRC-Info <<a href="mailto:frc-info-bounces@lists.keekles.org" target="_blank">frc-info-bounces@lists.<wbr>keekles.org</a>> on behalf of Jon Pearl - 
W4ABC <<a href="mailto:jonpearl@tampabay.rr.com" target="_blank">jonpearl@tampabay.rr.com</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 4, 2016 
11:40 AM<br><b>To:</b> Florida Repeater Council Discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> 
Re: [FRC] FYI... Florida Repeater Council Information</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black"> 
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<p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black">Good morning 
Ron,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black"><u></u><u></u></span> </p>
<p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black"><u></u><u></u></span> </p>
<p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black">Is it 
possible that you're capturing all of the email messages from the FRC list 
server?  It appears that you've somehow arrived at the decision that all 
are not allowed to communicate in this venue.  Here are the archives:  
<a href="http://lists.keekles.org/pipermail/frc-info/" target="_blank">http://lists.keekles.org/<wbr>pipermail/frc-info/</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black"><u></u><u></u></span> </p>
<p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black">I posted a 
message to the group yesterday, and while it appeared to all on the list almost 
immediately, I personally didn't see it arrive in my own mailbox for quite some 
time.  I see this happen quite frequently on the Tower-Talk list 
server.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black"><u></u><u></u></span> </p>
<p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black">73,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black"><u></u><u></u></span> </p>
<p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black">Jon Pearl - 
W4ABC<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black"><u></u><u></u></span> </p>
<p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black"><u></u><u></u></span> </p>
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<p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black">On 10/3/2016 
11:47 AM, <a href="mailto:mccrpt@tampabay.rr.com" target="_blank">mccrpt@tampabay.rr.com</a> 
wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black">Bryan,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black"><u></u><u></u></span> </p>
<p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black">It appears 
this discussion is between you and us, not between us and us.  A real 
discussion would be between all of us.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black"><u></u><u></u></span> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-BOTTOM:12pt"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black">73, ron, n9ee/r a know 
code Extra<br><br><br>And once more...<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black">On 10/3/2016 1:25 PM, 
<a href="mailto:mccrpt@tampabay.rr.com" target="_blank">mccrpt@tampabay.rr.com</a> 
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  <p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black">(snip)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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  <p><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black">Just like 
  this discussion and whoever started it, they are not allowing all to 
  communicate.  Do we want this in FRC???<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black">73, ron, n9ee/r a 
  know code Extra<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black">Ron Wright, N9EE/R 
  <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black">BSEE<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black">Micro Computer 
  Concepts<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black"><a href="tel:352-683-4476" value="+13526834476" target="_blank">352-683-4476</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div>
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  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black"><a href="mailto:mccrpt@tampabay.rr.com" target="_blank">mccrpt@tampabay.rr.com</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div>
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