Interesting so all it is is IAX traffic between the webpage and asterisk?? How does it verify the pass code etc?? I take it their must be a main frame asterisk node setup some where that handles this iax traffic.. I didn't realize this!! I agree a application for the platforms would be nice like windows phone and android along with iphone.. I still don't understand why people use iphones but thats my personal preference i guess.. Anyway how hard would it be to take the iaxrpt that you created and port it to iphone?? How hard would it be to take the iaxrpt and make it connect just like the transceiver did?? Just wondering it might be some thing to think about for future development but i still think we should have a pc based way to communicate like a web browser based client.. You just never know how that might come in handy some day when handling large amounts of traffic.. 


On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:49 AM, Steve Zingman <szingman@msgstor.com> wrote:
Loren,
You missed my comment about one size fits all. A app written for a mobile device will take advantage of options not available to a web interface. It is far better to use a app written for the platform. For the web platform HTML5 may be a good choice. The Web Transceiver talks to the ASL network via IAX.

73, Steve N4IRS 

On 4/17/2017 10:33 AM, Loren Tedford wrote:
Steve I still like the idea that we are at least talking about fixing the Web Transceiver if i knew a little more about it maybe we could figure out how to make the web transceiver work in html mostly instead of java.. If this can be done this will mean its comparable via any mobile web browser out on the market today..  All the user would have to do is login to the website etc.. So exactly how does the web transceiver talk to the allstarlink network??? What exactly is going on in the back end of things?? 


On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 7:47 AM, Steve Zingman <szingman@msgstor.com> wrote:
As I said, The Web Transceiver code is being looked at to evaluate if and how it can be moved forward.  A one size fits all solution will not adequately work on all platforms. Support for mobile devices is a must. As of right now for access to specific nodes the choices are Zopier and Android IAXRPT. Zopier runs on IOS and Android. Android IAXRPT of course runs on Android and is tailored to AllStarLink nodes. The Web Transceiver is more general.

73, Steve N4IRS 

On 4/16/2017 10:54 PM, Matthew Pitts wrote:
Yes, kids were the target audience of the Raspberry Pi, but look at what Hams have done with it, in its various forms. AllStar nodes, whether DIAL or the distribution Doug helped develop. Multi-mode Digital Voice nodes using various interface devices like the MMDVM or DVAP/DV-RPTR/DVMEGA. Echolink/IRLP nodes. If we really want to get the attention of teens and twenty-somethings, and keep it, we need to adapt our tactics to the way they live; how often do you see one without a smartphone somewhere on their person? Create an app (or two, as iOS should be covered too) that supports the features of the current Web Transceiver and you'll have a tool that everyone can use and still have the browser free for other things.

Matthew Pitts
N8OHU
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Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

On April 15, 2017 6:48:44 PM EDT, Thor Wiegman <n7jct@aplaceonthe.net> wrote:
It comes as no surprise that someone like Doug would have little or no need for the web transceiver.  Most of us on this list won't have use for it.  Anyone who's come so far as to building their own node and subscribing to this list has likely exceeded what that web transceiver could do for them.

Consider however that there is a different market, a different audience for a web transceiver.  I know that I'm not the only one who got involved in this through exploration with the web transceiver. 

So I think there is benefit in having such a simple tool.  It can be, if it works well and is designed properly, a great tool for someone to take that first step in finding out what all this is about.

Consider the target audience of the Raspberry Pi.  Getting kids into programming and using these devices to do things, control things and such.  Ham radio needs to attract, and keep, the attention of that same audience.  App_rpt and Allstarlink are great for that.  But this audience doesn't come to us with anything more than a very basic, novice background at first.  A web transceiver seems like a handy tool for those new young hams to explore.

There's my long winded $0.02 
73
Thor (N7JCT)


 


Subject:
Re: [App_rpt-users] Alternative to WebTransceiver java applet
From:
Doug Crompton <wa3dsp@gmail.com>
Date:
04/15/2017 01:24 PM
To:
Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org>

If you must have the web transceiver there are ways around the problem



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