RPi w/DIAL Repeater Stuck In Transmit Mode
Our repeater hung up in transmit mode, and would not respond to radio DTMF commands to restart Asterisk or reboot. We had to manually reset the power. We don't understand why. If this should be a reoccurring issue, perhaps we need an external watchdog timer to reset power after x minutes of constant PTT activation. Looking for suggestions. We are planning to setup a remote (no internet) repeater that is not easily accessible, so want to make sure we have a solution. Thanks, Bob k6ecm 73 Sent from iPad
Bob, I would like to see the system and asterisk logs, to try determine the nature of the failure. Did the system respond to any DTMF commands? I don't know of this happening to someone else. I would also suggest using the "release candidate" version of DIAL for the RPi. It can be downloaded at <http://dvswitch.org/files/DIAL/RAT_RC1.tar.gz> 73, Steve N4IRS On 03/08/2017 02:04 AM, Bob Pyke wrote:
Our repeater hung up in transmit mode, and would not respond to radio DTMF commands to restart Asterisk or reboot. We had to manually reset the power. We don't understand why. If this should be a reoccurring issue, perhaps we need an external watchdog timer to reset power after x minutes of constant PTT activation.
Looking for suggestions.
We are planning to setup a remote (no internet) repeater that is not easily accessible, so want to make sure we have a solution.
Thanks, Bob k6ecm 73
Sent from iPad
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Steve, What are the file names for these logs? Thanks, Bob k6ecm 73 Sent from iPad
On Mar 8, 2017, at 2:41 AM, Steve Zingman <szingman@msgstor.com> wrote:
Bob, I would like to see the system and asterisk logs, to try determine the nature of the failure. Did the system respond to any DTMF commands? I don't know of this happening to someone else. I would also suggest using the "release candidate" version of DIAL for the RPi. It can be downloaded at <http://dvswitch.org/files/DIAL/RAT_RC1.tar.gz>
73, Steve N4IRS
On 03/08/2017 02:04 AM, Bob Pyke wrote: Our repeater hung up in transmit mode, and would not respond to radio DTMF commands to restart Asterisk or reboot. We had to manually reset the power. We don't understand why. If this should be a reoccurring issue, perhaps we need an external watchdog timer to reset power after x minutes of constant PTT activation.
Looking for suggestions.
We are planning to setup a remote (no internet) repeater that is not easily accessible, so want to make sure we have a solution.
Thanks, Bob k6ecm 73
Sent from iPad
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/var/log/syslog /var/log/asterisk/messages Did the system respond to any DTMF commands? On 3/8/2017 8:11 AM, Bob Pyke wrote:
Steve,
What are the file names for these logs?
Thanks, Bob k6ecm 73
Sent from iPad
On Mar 8, 2017, at 2:41 AM, Steve Zingman <szingman@msgstor.com> wrote:
Bob, I would like to see the system and asterisk logs, to try determine the nature of the failure. Did the system respond to any DTMF commands? I don't know of this happening to someone else. I would also suggest using the "release candidate" version of DIAL for the RPi. It can be downloaded at <http://dvswitch.org/files/DIAL/RAT_RC1.tar.gz>
73, Steve N4IRS
On 03/08/2017 02:04 AM, Bob Pyke wrote: Our repeater hung up in transmit mode, and would not respond to radio DTMF commands to restart Asterisk or reboot. We had to manually reset the power. We don't understand why. If this should be a reoccurring issue, perhaps we need an external watchdog timer to reset power after x minutes of constant PTT activation.
Looking for suggestions.
We are planning to setup a remote (no internet) repeater that is not easily accessible, so want to make sure we have a solution.
Thanks, Bob k6ecm 73
Sent from iPad
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No response. I was not aware of it, so didn't engage, I have it setup so the repeater monitor can reboot using DTMF from his radio, but it did not work. If they had contacted me, I would have tried via iaxrpt. I'm not finding any logs with data from before the crash. Do you still want to see them? Thanks, Bob k6ecm 73 Sent from iPad
On Mar 8, 2017, at 5:13 AM, Steve Zingman <szingman@msgstor.com> wrote:
/var/log/syslog /var/log/asterisk/messages Did the system respond to any DTMF commands?
On 3/8/2017 8:11 AM, Bob Pyke wrote: Steve,
What are the file names for these logs?
Thanks, Bob k6ecm 73
Sent from iPad
On Mar 8, 2017, at 2:41 AM, Steve Zingman <szingman@msgstor.com> wrote:
Bob, I would like to see the system and asterisk logs, to try determine the nature of the failure. Did the system respond to any DTMF commands? I don't know of this happening to someone else. I would also suggest using the "release candidate" version of DIAL for the RPi. It can be downloaded at <http://dvswitch.org/files/DIAL/RAT_RC1.tar.gz>
73, Steve N4IRS
On 03/08/2017 02:04 AM, Bob Pyke wrote: Our repeater hung up in transmit mode, and would not respond to radio DTMF commands to restart Asterisk or reboot. We had to manually reset the power. We don't understand why. If this should be a reoccurring issue, perhaps we need an external watchdog timer to reset power after x minutes of constant PTT activation.
Looking for suggestions.
We are planning to setup a remote (no internet) repeater that is not easily accessible, so want to make sure we have a solution.
Thanks, Bob k6ecm 73
Sent from iPad
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No, it would not matter. I would want to know: Is there a courtesy beep? Any DTMF command work? ssh access? Going forward, use the release candidate, there are significant improvements in starting and stopping ASL. It can be downloaded at <http://dvswitch.org/files/DIAL/RAT_RC1.tar.gz> A software based watchdog might help, but if I were to go in that direction I would go for a hardware based watchdog. as I said I do not know of any other instance of it hanging. Another option would be a external DTMF decoder. Steve N4IRS On 3/8/2017 8:31 AM, Bob Pyke wrote:
No response. I was not aware of it, so didn't engage, I have it setup so the repeater monitor can reboot using DTMF from his radio, but it did not work. If they had contacted me, I would have tried via iaxrpt.
I'm not finding any logs with data from before the crash. Do you still want to see them?
Thanks, Bob k6ecm 73
Sent from iPad
On Mar 8, 2017, at 5:13 AM, Steve Zingman <szingman@msgstor.com> wrote:
/var/log/syslog /var/log/asterisk/messages Did the system respond to any DTMF commands?
On 3/8/2017 8:11 AM, Bob Pyke wrote: Steve,
What are the file names for these logs?
Thanks, Bob k6ecm 73
Sent from iPad
On Mar 8, 2017, at 2:41 AM, Steve Zingman <szingman@msgstor.com> wrote:
Bob, I would like to see the system and asterisk logs, to try determine the nature of the failure. Did the system respond to any DTMF commands? I don't know of this happening to someone else. I would also suggest using the "release candidate" version of DIAL for the RPi. It can be downloaded at <http://dvswitch.org/files/DIAL/RAT_RC1.tar.gz>
73, Steve N4IRS
On 03/08/2017 02:04 AM, Bob Pyke wrote: Our repeater hung up in transmit mode, and would not respond to radio DTMF commands to restart Asterisk or reboot. We had to manually reset the power. We don't understand why. If this should be a reoccurring issue, perhaps we need an external watchdog timer to reset power after x minutes of constant PTT activation.
Looking for suggestions.
We are planning to setup a remote (no internet) repeater that is not easily accessible, so want to make sure we have a solution.
Thanks, Bob k6ecm 73
Sent from iPad
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The Masters Communications RA-35 has 'watchdog' timer on it. It watches for the heartbeat of the CM119, and should it stop through asterisk failure or host failure, transmit is disabled. I've witnessed this happen a handful count of times when I was tinkering around with things I should not have, haha. Sounds to me you may have had other issues if Asterisk did not respond to DTMF commands. Steve is the Master, so I'll be interested to know what the cause, if made know, and the resolution. ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ On 03/08/2017 08:41 AM, Steve Zingman wrote:
No, it would not matter. I would want to know: Is there a courtesy beep? Any DTMF command work? ssh access?
Going forward, use the release candidate, there are significant improvements in starting and stopping ASL. It can be downloaded at <http://dvswitch.org/files/DIAL/RAT_RC1.tar.gz> A software based watchdog might help, but if I were to go in that direction I would go for a hardware based watchdog. as I said I do not know of any other instance of it hanging. Another option would be a external DTMF decoder.
Steve N4IRS
On 3/8/2017 8:31 AM, Bob Pyke wrote:
No response. I was not aware of it, so didn't engage, I have it setup so the repeater monitor can reboot using DTMF from his radio, but it did not work. If they had contacted me, I would have tried via iaxrpt.
I'm not finding any logs with data from before the crash. Do you still want to see them?
Thanks, Bob k6ecm 73
Sent from iPad
On Mar 8, 2017, at 5:13 AM, Steve Zingman <szingman@msgstor.com> wrote:
/var/log/syslog /var/log/asterisk/messages Did the system respond to any DTMF commands?
On 3/8/2017 8:11 AM, Bob Pyke wrote: Steve,
What are the file names for these logs?
Thanks, Bob k6ecm 73
Sent from iPad
On Mar 8, 2017, at 2:41 AM, Steve Zingman <szingman@msgstor.com> wrote:
Bob, I would like to see the system and asterisk logs, to try determine the nature of the failure. Did the system respond to any DTMF commands? I don't know of this happening to someone else. I would also suggest using the "release candidate" version of DIAL for the RPi. It can be downloaded at <http://dvswitch.org/files/DIAL/RAT_RC1.tar.gz>
73, Steve N4IRS
On 03/08/2017 02:04 AM, Bob Pyke wrote: Our repeater hung up in transmit mode, and would not respond to radio DTMF commands to restart Asterisk or reboot. We had to manually reset the power. We don't understand why. If this should be a reoccurring issue, perhaps we need an external watchdog timer to reset power after x minutes of constant PTT activation.
Looking for suggestions.
We are planning to setup a remote (no internet) repeater that is not easily accessible, so want to make sure we have a solution.
Thanks, Bob k6ecm 73
Sent from iPad
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At several of our sites, which can be inaccessible at certain times of the year, we use a radio interface that will revert control operations to "internal controls" if something unexpected happens. This is done by using a heartbeat monitoring circuit. When the CM119A is happy, and Asterisk is running, you see the flashy - flashy of the Heartbeat status LED. This happens on a URI, or any other radio adapter. However, only a few radio adapters have additional circuitry that monitors the Heartbeat of the CM119A, and in turn, that circuitry determines the overall health of the control system. If everything is okay, (Heartbeat LED is flashing) an LED called "PC COMM's" illuminates. If the flashing of the Heartbeat stops because the radio adapter or the computer has failed, or Asterisk has stopped or crashed, the PC COMM's LED goes out. This health status can be used for two purposes: First, the logic developed (user selectable, none, high or low) can enable a secondary control method. Some repeaters only require one logic lead change to enable "internal controls". Repeaters like the VERTEX 5000, 7000, and 9000, and many Tait and Motorola repeaters have such a control revert option. The heartbeat monitor equipped radio adapter can feed such a line directly - enabling internal controls if the Asterisk application, computer, or radio adapter should fail, keeping the repeater operational - locally. Secondly, and possibly more importantly, the PTT line can be interrupted with this health status. This function will kill the PTT line if the radio adapter, computer, or application has stopped. No more emergent trips to the repeater site to kill a transmitter which has stuck on. This circuitry has been designed to operate correctly no matter if the Heartbeat has stuck in the on or off state. While this option doesn't keep unexpected things from happening, nor totally eliminates making a trip to the site, it has made things better. Radio adapters with HB monitor: RB USB RIM RB RIM-Lite (all variants) MC RA-35 Kevin W3KKC On 3/8/2017 2:04 AM, Bob Pyke wrote:
Our repeater hung up in transmit mode, and would not respond to radio DTMF commands to restart Asterisk or reboot. We had to manually reset the power. We don't understand why. If this should be a reoccurring issue, perhaps we need an external watchdog timer to reset power after x minutes of constant PTT activation.
Looking for suggestions.
We are planning to setup a remote (no internet) repeater that is not easily accessible, so want to make sure we have a solution.
Thanks, Bob k6ecm
Having the same issue, just recently, with DIAL running on a PC. When the system locks in to transmit, I can log in and do a reboot. I'm not sure what might be causing this either. Has anyone else come across this and has a fix for it, not a work around. I'm suspecting that Asterisk is the culprit and is locking up. (maybe some upgrades are in order?) When I first had this problem, I could make a change to the rpt.conf so the AllStarLink box would announce the callsign of the station logging in from echolink. When I would do this, the box would lock into transmit at any given time for no reason, no pattern to it or anything. Once I set the configuration back to just announcing the number of the echolink station it has been working fine ever since until just recently. Thoughts? Amateur Radio - The Original Social Media Steve Schulze - Radio Amateur, General Class - N9UDO Administrator, Baraboo, Wisconsin D-Star System - WB9FDZ Administrator, Baraboo, Wisconsin AllStarLink Systems - 27616, 27727 http://yellowthunder.org On 3/8/2017 23:55, Kevin Custer wrote:
At several of our sites, which can be inaccessible at certain times of the year, we use a radio interface that will revert control operations to "internal controls" if something unexpected happens. This is done by using a heartbeat monitoring circuit. When the CM119A is happy, and Asterisk is running, you see the flashy - flashy of the Heartbeat status LED. This happens on a URI, or any other radio adapter. However, only a few radio adapters have additional circuitry that monitors the Heartbeat of the CM119A, and in turn, that circuitry determines the overall health of the control system. If everything is okay, (Heartbeat LED is flashing) an LED called "PC COMM's" illuminates. If the flashing of the Heartbeat stops because the radio adapter or the computer has failed, or Asterisk has stopped or crashed, the PC COMM's LED goes out. This health status can be used for two purposes: First, the logic developed (user selectable, none, high or low) can enable a secondary control method. Some repeaters only require one logic lead change to enable "internal controls". Repeaters like the VERTEX 5000, 7000, and 9000, and many Tait and Motorola repeaters have such a control revert option. The heartbeat monitor equipped radio adapter can feed such a line directly - enabling internal controls if the Asterisk application, computer, or radio adapter should fail, keeping the repeater operational - locally. Secondly, and possibly more importantly, the PTT line can be interrupted with this health status. This function will kill the PTT line if the radio adapter, computer, or application has stopped. No more emergent trips to the repeater site to kill a transmitter which has stuck on. This circuitry has been designed to operate correctly no matter if the Heartbeat has stuck in the on or off state.
While this option doesn't keep unexpected things from happening, nor totally eliminates making a trip to the site, it has made things better.
Radio adapters with HB monitor: RB USB RIM RB RIM-Lite (all variants) MC RA-35
Kevin W3KKC
On 3/8/2017 2:04 AM, Bob Pyke wrote:
Our repeater hung up in transmit mode, and would not respond to radio DTMF commands to restart Asterisk or reboot. We had to manually reset the power. We don't understand why. If this should be a reoccurring issue, perhaps we need an external watchdog timer to reset power after x minutes of constant PTT activation.
Looking for suggestions.
We are planning to setup a remote (no internet) repeater that is not easily accessible, so want to make sure we have a solution.
Thanks, Bob k6ecm
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