Got a strange error in my AT&T gateway
Hi all. I've been seeing a daily reboot of my AT&T gateway, has done it three times now. Looked at the logs in the AT&T box and I see several: host=stats.allstarlink.org url=/uhandler.php hijacked Anybody know what this might mean? GeorgeC -- George Csahanin 10100 Carson Ranch Rd. Crowley, TX 76036 682-708-5716 home 401-338-0568 cel http://dyb.com PLEASE NOTE: Effective January 1, 2018 george@dyb.com will no longer function USE george@w2db.com
I saw your post from the att forum dated back in Sept 2016. So your router detected a php hijacking and blocked the packet. That's ok. But.. I would guess your getting attacked all around and over loading your router. If you have a consumer-grade router. I would call att and see if they have anyway of looking to see if your being attacked. Getting a new IP address should help. Login to your router check to see what your WAN/Public IP address. Try powering off your Router and ASL Node for 3-5 minutes. Some hackers testing your IP address and router. The power off is to hopefully get a new IP address. Google online port scanner. Find one a scan your router to see if any of your ports our open. It should show no port. Filtered ports are bad as well. David KE6UPI PS: If your into playing with routers and making your own. Try OPNsense. https://opnsense.org/ I use Sophos with a free home lic. -- Thanks, David "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one." Thomas Jefferson On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 10:29 AM, George Csahanin <george@dyb.com> wrote:
Hi all. I've been seeing a daily reboot of my AT&T gateway, has done it three times now. Looked at the logs in the AT&T box and I see several:
host=stats.allstarlink.org url=/uhandler.php hijacked
Anybody know what this might mean?
GeorgeC
-- George Csahanin 10100 Carson Ranch Rd. Crowley, TX 76036 682-708-5716 home 401-338-0568 cel http://dyb.com PLEASE NOTE: Effective January 1, 2018 george@dyb.com will no longer function USE george@w2db.com
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Would changing the Allstar port number help, or would the bad guys just discover this in short order? -Andy KB7B 42432
On Jul 30, 2017, at 2:29 AM, David Shaw <shawpbx@gmail.com> wrote:
I saw your post from the att forum dated back in Sept 2016. So your router detected a php hijacking and blocked the packet. That's ok. But.. I would guess your getting attacked all around and over loading your router. If you have a consumer-grade router. I would call att and see if they have anyway of looking to see if your being attacked. Getting a new IP address should help. Login to your router check to see what your WAN/Public IP address.
Try powering off your Router and ASL Node for 3-5 minutes.
Some hackers testing your IP address and router.
The power off is to hopefully get a new IP address.
Google online port scanner. Find one a scan your router to see if any of your ports our open. It should show no port. Filtered ports are bad as well.
David KE6UPI
PS: If your into playing with routers and making your own. Try OPNsense. https://opnsense.org/
I use Sophos with a free home lic.
-- Thanks, David
"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one." Thomas Jefferson
On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 10:29 AM, George Csahanin <george@dyb.com> wrote: Hi all. I've been seeing a daily reboot of my AT&T gateway, has done it three times now. Looked at the logs in the AT&T box and I see several:
host=stats.allstarlink.org url=/uhandler.php hijacked
Anybody know what this might mean?
GeorgeC
-- George Csahanin 10100 Carson Ranch Rd. Crowley, TX 76036 682-708-5716 home 401-338-0568 cel http://dyb.com PLEASE NOTE: Effective January 1, 2018 george@dyb.com will no longer function USE george@w2db.com
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if you are on the public net with an open port...you will be found. -- Bryan Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this message.
On Jul 30, 2017, at 02:42, Andy KB7B <andy_kb7b@yahoo.com> wrote:
Would changing the Allstar port number help, or would the bad guys just discover this in short order?
-Andy KB7B 42432
On Jul 30, 2017, at 2:29 AM, David Shaw <shawpbx@gmail.com> wrote:
I saw your post from the att forum dated back in Sept 2016. So your router detected a php hijacking and blocked the packet. That's ok. But.. I would guess your getting attacked all around and over loading your router. If you have a consumer-grade router. I would call att and see if they have anyway of looking to see if your being attacked. Getting a new IP address should help. Login to your router check to see what your WAN/Public IP address.
Try powering off your Router and ASL Node for 3-5 minutes.
Some hackers testing your IP address and router.
The power off is to hopefully get a new IP address.
Google online port scanner. Find one a scan your router to see if any of your ports our open. It should show no port. Filtered ports are bad as well.
David KE6UPI
PS: If your into playing with routers and making your own. Try OPNsense. https://opnsense.org/
I use Sophos with a free home lic.
-- Thanks, David
"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one." Thomas Jefferson
On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 10:29 AM, George Csahanin <george@dyb.com> wrote: Hi all. I've been seeing a daily reboot of my AT&T gateway, has done it three times now. Looked at the logs in the AT&T box and I see several:
host=stats.allstarlink.org url=/uhandler.php hijacked
Anybody know what this might mean?
GeorgeC
-- George Csahanin 10100 Carson Ranch Rd. Crowley, TX 76036 682-708-5716 home 401-338-0568 cel http://dyb.com PLEASE NOTE: Effective January 1, 2018 george@dyb.com will no longer function USE george@w2db.com
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George, This thread may help. https://forums.att.com/t5/AT-T-Internet-Features/DNS-Hijacking/td-p/4809874 73, David KB4FXC On Sat, 29 Jul 2017, George Csahanin wrote:
Hi all. I've been seeing a daily reboot of my AT&T gateway, has done it three times now. Looked at the logs in the AT&T box and I see several:
host=stats.allstarlink.org url=/uhandler.php hijacked Anybody know what this might mean? GeorgeC -- George Csahanin 10100 Carson Ranch Rd. Crowley, TX 76036 682-708-5716 home 401-338-0568 cel http://dyb.com PLEASE NOTE: Effective January 1, 2018 george@dyb.com will no longer function USE george@w2db.com _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem.
Maybe I wasn't clear on this point. host=stats.allstarlink.org url=/uhandler.php is a valid line from rpt.conf, well, technically http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php is. And my stats show up in stats.allstarlink.org I found this on ATT forum, from another user (oddly, NOT from AT&T): */"the correct information in regards to the " hijacked" description endings in the logs. They are stating that the/**/*Gateway*/**/has hijacked the connection, and is providing responses. It does not mean that an external party has hijacked the connection. The gateway does this to send you error messages (i.e. in your browser), but it usually causes more harm than it does good./*" I'll ignore this log entry. The daily reboot is still a mystery, sort of...it IS AT&T GeorgeC 2360 On 7/29/2017 12:29 PM, George Csahanin wrote:
Hi all. I've been seeing a daily reboot of my AT&T gateway, has done it three times now. Looked at the logs in the AT&T box and I see several:
host=stats.allstarlink.org url=/uhandler.php hijacked
Anybody know what this might mean?
GeorgeC
-- George Csahanin 10100 Carson Ranch Rd. Crowley, TX 76036 682-708-5716 home 401-338-0568 cel http://dyb.com PLEASE NOTE: Effective January 1, 2018 george@dyb.com will no longer function USE george@w2db.com
No it's not AT&T's network. What is the reason that the gateway (your router) hijacked the packet? Is the packet malformed? Did the packet get hijacked by an internal or external system? I can't remember if stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php sends back a response or not. Why, if it does send a response back. Then it could be an external problem. If it doesn't then it is an internal problem. Or just get a better router that doesn't freak out over a this common problem. What model router do you have? David KE6UPI -- Thanks, David "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one." Thomas Jefferson On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 9:38 AM, George Csahanin <george@dyb.com> wrote:
Maybe I wasn't clear on this point.
host=stats.allstarlink.org url=/uhandler.php is a valid line from rpt.conf, well, technically http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php is. And my stats show up in stats.allstarlink.org
I found this on ATT forum, from another user (oddly, NOT from AT&T):*"the correct information in regards to the " hijacked" description endings in the logs. They are stating that the **Gateway** has hijacked the connection, and is providing responses. It does not mean that an external party has hijacked the connection. The gateway does this to send you error messages (i.e. in your browser), but it usually causes more harm than it does good.*"
I'll ignore this log entry. The daily reboot is still a mystery, sort of...it IS AT&T
GeorgeC 2360
On 7/29/2017 12:29 PM, George Csahanin wrote:
Hi all. I've been seeing a daily reboot of my AT&T gateway, has done it three times now. Looked at the logs in the AT&T box and I see several:
host=stats.allstarlink.org url=/uhandler.php hijacked
Anybody know what this might mean?
GeorgeC
-- George Csahanin 10100 Carson Ranch Rd. Crowley, TX 76036682-708-5716 <(682)%20708-5716> home401-338-0568 <(401)%20338-0568> celhttp://dyb.com PLEASE NOTE: Effective January 1, 2018 george@dyb.com will no longer function USE george@w2db.com
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George, I sent you a link to a related, but wrong article, earlier. This link explains what is going on: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/03/atts-plan-to-watch-yo... So, basically, what "hijacked" means is that the DNS entry for stats.allstarlink.org has been spoofed by AT&T, and those queries have been redirected to an AT&T proxy server (AKA: man in the middle) for "evaluation" before passing the request along to the REAL stats server. DNS hijacking is becoming a serious problem these days, even if you set your DNS server explicitly to a well known address---like google (8.8.8.8)....This problem is one reason so much traffic on the Internet these days uses TLS (https), since using TLS will at least notify you of an invalid host (like a proxy server). BUT, be aware that even using TLS doesn't eliminate this man-in-the-middle problem, it just makes it easier to spot. 73, David KB4FXC On Sun, 30 Jul 2017, George Csahanin wrote:
Maybe I wasn't clear on this point.
host=stats.allstarlink.org url=/uhandler.php is a valid line from rpt.conf, well, technically http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php is. And my stats show up in stats.allstarlink.org
I found this on ATT forum, from another user (oddly, NOT from AT&T): */"the correct information in regards to the " hijacked" description endings in the logs. They are stating that the/**/*Gateway*/**/has hijacked the connection, and is providing responses. It does not mean that an external party has hijacked the connection. The gateway does this to send you error messages (i.e. in your browser), but it usually causes more harm than it does good./*"
I'll ignore this log entry. The daily reboot is still a mystery, sort of...it IS AT&T
GeorgeC 2360
On 7/29/2017 12:29 PM, George Csahanin wrote:
Hi all. I've been seeing a daily reboot of my AT&T gateway, has done it three times now. Looked at the logs in the AT&T box and I see several:
host=stats.allstarlink.org url=/uhandler.php hijacked
Anybody know what this might mean?
GeorgeC
Well there you have it. If KB4FXC is right. AT&T hijacked your packet and your router acted appropriately. So I'll check to see if https will work or not. But you'r router is still freaking out. David -- Thanks, David "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one." Thomas Jefferson On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 11:04 AM, David McGough <kb4fxc@inttek.net> wrote:
George,
I sent you a link to a related, but wrong article, earlier. This link explains what is going on:
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/ 03/atts-plan-to-watch-your-web-browsing-and-what-you-can-do-about-it/
So, basically, what "hijacked" means is that the DNS entry for stats.allstarlink.org has been spoofed by AT&T, and those queries have been redirected to an AT&T proxy server (AKA: man in the middle) for "evaluation" before passing the request along to the REAL stats server.
DNS hijacking is becoming a serious problem these days, even if you set your DNS server explicitly to a well known address---like google (8.8.8.8)....This problem is one reason so much traffic on the Internet these days uses TLS (https), since using TLS will at least notify you of an invalid host (like a proxy server). BUT, be aware that even using TLS doesn't eliminate this man-in-the-middle problem, it just makes it easier to spot.
73, David KB4FXC
On Sun, 30 Jul 2017, George Csahanin wrote:
Maybe I wasn't clear on this point.
host=stats.allstarlink.org url=/uhandler.php is a valid line from rpt.conf, well, technically http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php is. And my stats show up in stats.allstarlink.org
I found this on ATT forum, from another user (oddly, NOT from AT&T): */"the correct information in regards to the " hijacked" description endings in the logs. They are stating that the/**/*Gateway*/**/has hijacked the connection, and is providing responses. It does not mean that an external party has hijacked the connection. The gateway does this to send you error messages (i.e. in your browser), but it usually causes more harm than it does good./*"
I'll ignore this log entry. The daily reboot is still a mystery, sort of...it IS AT&T
GeorgeC 2360
On 7/29/2017 12:29 PM, George Csahanin wrote:
Hi all. I've been seeing a daily reboot of my AT&T gateway, has done it three times now. Looked at the logs in the AT&T box and I see several:
host=stats.allstarlink.org url=/uhandler.php hijacked
Anybody know what this might mean?
GeorgeC
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The first thing to check in resolving the need to regularly reboot the router is if there is a firmware upgrade available for it. Also, google the router model and some extra words like "locks up" or "reboot" or similar. Some ISP supplied routers are just buggy, with no easy fix other than to replace it with a different model. 73, David KB4FXC On Sun, 30 Jul 2017, David Shaw wrote:
Well there you have it. If KB4FXC is right. AT&T hijacked your packet and your router acted appropriately. So I'll check to see if https will work or not. But you'r router is still freaking out.
David
-- Thanks, David
"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one." Thomas Jefferson
On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 11:04 AM, David McGough <kb4fxc@inttek.net> wrote:
George,
I sent you a link to a related, but wrong article, earlier. This link explains what is going on:
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/ 03/atts-plan-to-watch-your-web-browsing-and-what-you-can-do-about-it/
So, basically, what "hijacked" means is that the DNS entry for stats.allstarlink.org has been spoofed by AT&T, and those queries have been redirected to an AT&T proxy server (AKA: man in the middle) for "evaluation" before passing the request along to the REAL stats server.
DNS hijacking is becoming a serious problem these days, even if you set your DNS server explicitly to a well known address---like google (8.8.8.8)....This problem is one reason so much traffic on the Internet these days uses TLS (https), since using TLS will at least notify you of an invalid host (like a proxy server). BUT, be aware that even using TLS doesn't eliminate this man-in-the-middle problem, it just makes it easier to spot.
73, David KB4FXC
On Sun, 30 Jul 2017, George Csahanin wrote:
Maybe I wasn't clear on this point.
host=stats.allstarlink.org url=/uhandler.php is a valid line from rpt.conf, well, technically http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php is. And my stats show up in stats.allstarlink.org
I found this on ATT forum, from another user (oddly, NOT from AT&T): */"the correct information in regards to the " hijacked" description endings in the logs. They are stating that the/**/*Gateway*/**/has hijacked the connection, and is providing responses. It does not mean that an external party has hijacked the connection. The gateway does this to send you error messages (i.e. in your browser), but it usually causes more harm than it does good./*"
I'll ignore this log entry. The daily reboot is still a mystery, sort of...it IS AT&T
GeorgeC 2360
On 7/29/2017 12:29 PM, George Csahanin wrote:
Hi all. I've been seeing a daily reboot of my AT&T gateway, has done it three times now. Looked at the logs in the AT&T box and I see several:
host=stats.allstarlink.org url=/uhandler.php hijacked
Anybody know what this might mean?
GeorgeC
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