Re: [App_rpt-users] Thinking out loud
Kewl! Just my future my plans with my rtcm too, I wanting to get it portable. Look forward to the pic. And any further insight on mark's subscription based hosting platform? Last I heard it was still prototype not available? Price? Patiently waiting to see what all is entailed ... 73 sir! Tony ;(;) AllStar 28384 Irlp 7998 / 7766 / 7926 Echo 563329 / 685499 / 722517 :(:) On Jun 3, 2012, at 3:51 PM, app_rpt-users-request@ohnosec.org wrote:
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1. Re: Thinking out loud (Jim Duuuude) 2. RTCM falsing DTMF (Alan Adamson) 3. Re: RTCM falsing DTMF (Jim Duuuude) 4. Re: RTCM falsing DTMF (Tim Sawyer)
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Message: 1 Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 09:13:45 -0700 From: Jim Duuuude <telesistant@hotmail.com> To: <adamson_alan@hotmail.com>, app_rpt mailing list <app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Thinking out loud Message-ID: <BLU155-W219E912273FBB283A65D33B10E0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
well, yes, that was exactly one of the things it was designed for...
On the way to Dayton recently, we (Mark K7IZA, Hans AE6TV and I) had exactly that.. An RTCM connected to a cradlepoint router with a T-mobile USB datacard and a Motorola HT on a 440 channel. It worked very well.
And for this type of an application, if you REALLY want a "no brainer" setup, Micro-Node offers a subscription-based hosting platform for Allstar Nodes using an RTCM in this manner. In other words, for people who just want a simple, hassle-free mobile/portable node without having to "hassle" with a Linux host, etc, they can also buy the service through Mark's company.
Regardless of how you host the node, having the RTCM in a mobile/portable environment is a GREAT way to go. Its low power consumption (72ma @ 12VDC), small size, and general ruggedness, not to mention its very simple requirements for Internet connectivity (including its ability to be behind any number of NATs, etc) make it the optimum solution for this type of operation.
I highly recommend you giving this a try. You will definitely like it.
BTW, I am in the process of getting access to a picture of the device we took with us to Dayton, and will post it once I get it.
JIM WB6NIL
From: adamson_alan@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 10:02:31 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Thinking out loud
Thinking out loud
I've been wanting to build a *mobile* node. On the surface, this seems pretty easy? What makes it complicated is the internet or network connections.
I'm a tmobile subscriber for cell and mobile data. I decided recently to start building my mobile data carry alongs based upon a cradlepoint router, so far so good. So my Tmobile mobile device is comprised of a cradlepoint, and their 4G usb FOB. This works great for what I need it for?. Recently I found myself in an area where I didn't have very good tmo coverage so I grabbed a Verizon 4G lte FOB. I haven't thought about *incoming* data until working on my linking projects.
This is where my mobile plan fell apart.
It appears that most all of these 4G/LTE providers are going to a Natted private network on the 4G/LTE side. This isn't true of their 3G network, but is of their 4G side. Well as you might imagine if you don't have control of the NAT ad port forwarding, you can't put a server on user side of a 4G device :(.
BUT then I had an epiphany (probably late because everyone else is already there)?
The RTCM works so well for remoting my repeater?. Why not just use it as the mobile controller and instead of running a server remotely, just run an RTCM remotely back to a server. I think this will solve my problem. And perhaps make this even simpler to deal with along with a 4G type data connection.
Anyone already wandered this path and what are you using?
Thanks,
Alan
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I just talked to Mark (Micro-Node). The server is not yet in its "production" location. The "billing" interface is not yet implemented. You are more then welcome to have a node or 2 on the server as it currently exists (free, of course) until such time as it gets properly deployed in a "production" environment. Be aware, that it might not be online 100% of the time, and there may be some problems that you find that we do not know about. It would be nice, actually, for everyone involved if you did this, since it would give us good experience with a "real" user. I am positive that it will not be long until the server/service is up and running in its "production" form. JIM
From: k5try73@gmail.com Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 16:35:31 -0500 To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Thinking out loud
Kewl! Just my future my plans with my rtcm too, I wanting to get it portable. Look forward to the pic. And any further insight on mark's subscription based hosting platform? Last I heard it was still prototype not available? Price? Patiently waiting to see what all is entailed ...
73 sir!
Tony
;(;) AllStar 28384 Irlp 7998 / 7766 / 7926 Echo 563329 / 685499 / 722517 :(:)
On Jun 3, 2012, at 3:51 PM, app_rpt-users-request@ohnosec.org wrote:
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Thinking out loud (Jim Duuuude) 2. RTCM falsing DTMF (Alan Adamson) 3. Re: RTCM falsing DTMF (Jim Duuuude) 4. Re: RTCM falsing DTMF (Tim Sawyer)
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Message: 1 Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 09:13:45 -0700 From: Jim Duuuude <telesistant@hotmail.com> To: <adamson_alan@hotmail.com>, app_rpt mailing list <app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Thinking out loud Message-ID: <BLU155-W219E912273FBB283A65D33B10E0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
well, yes, that was exactly one of the things it was designed for...
On the way to Dayton recently, we (Mark K7IZA, Hans AE6TV and I) had exactly that.. An RTCM connected to a cradlepoint router with a T-mobile USB datacard and a Motorola HT on a 440 channel. It worked very well.
And for this type of an application, if you REALLY want a "no brainer" setup, Micro-Node offers a subscription-based hosting platform for Allstar Nodes using an RTCM in this manner. In other words, for people who just want a simple, hassle-free mobile/portable node without having to "hassle" with a Linux host, etc, they can also buy the service through Mark's company.
Regardless of how you host the node, having the RTCM in a mobile/portable environment is a GREAT way to go. Its low power consumption (72ma @ 12VDC), small size, and general ruggedness, not to mention its very simple requirements for Internet connectivity (including its ability to be behind any number of NATs, etc) make it the optimum solution for this type of operation.
I highly recommend you giving this a try. You will definitely like it.
BTW, I am in the process of getting access to a picture of the device we took with us to Dayton, and will post it once I get it.
JIM WB6NIL
From: adamson_alan@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 10:02:31 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Thinking out loud
Thinking out loud
I've been wanting to build a *mobile* node. On the surface, this seems pretty easy? What makes it complicated is the internet or network connections.
I'm a tmobile subscriber for cell and mobile data. I decided recently to start building my mobile data carry alongs based upon a cradlepoint router, so far so good. So my Tmobile mobile device is comprised of a cradlepoint, and their 4G usb FOB. This works great for what I need it for?. Recently I found myself in an area where I didn't have very good tmo coverage so I grabbed a Verizon 4G lte FOB. I haven't thought about *incoming* data until working on my linking projects.
This is where my mobile plan fell apart.
It appears that most all of these 4G/LTE providers are going to a Natted private network on the 4G/LTE side. This isn't true of their 3G network, but is of their 4G side. Well as you might imagine if you don't have control of the NAT ad port forwarding, you can't put a server on user side of a 4G device :(.
BUT then I had an epiphany (probably late because everyone else is already there)?
The RTCM works so well for remoting my repeater?. Why not just use it as the mobile controller and instead of running a server remotely, just run an RTCM remotely back to a server. I think this will solve my problem. And perhaps make this even simpler to deal with along with a 4G type data connection.
Anyone already wandered this path and what are you using?
Thanks,
Alan
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