*FIXED* can't drop inbound connection
Is this bug that the ARM guys discovered present in the latest DIAL for _/*desktop*/_ release? I'm guessing the answer is "yes" but just checking. N5ZUA On 1/29/2017 4:13 AM, "David McGough via arm-allstar" wrote:
Hi Everyone,
We were able to reproduce this issue tonight, and it was a bug in the app_rpt module. This bug got accidentally introduced back in August, 2016, as of AllStar SVN revision 1537 (app_rpt version 0.326).
We were able to develop a patch that fixes this issue.
To resolve this bug in version 1.5, please run the system update menu item ("1 - Perform a System UPDATE") from the Admin Menu. Once the update is complete, Asterisk will automatically restart. No reboot should be needed.
Please give it a try -- THIS IS AN IMPORTANT UPDATE!
73, David KB4FXC
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Steve, They don't say what the bug is, just when it started and when they fixed it. The easiest thing will be to just wait for them to release the source code for the bugfix and then merge it. app_rpt was released by Jim under a GPLv2 license. GPLv2 requires a source code release to go with any compiled release (such as Hamvoip/arm). He did this intentionally so that when improvements were made everyone would benefit from them. Now all we need to do is wait for, or possibly prompt, the Hamvoip team to share their modifications. Tom KD7LXL On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Steve Agee <n5zua@earthlink.net> wrote:
Is this bug that the ARM guys discovered present in the latest DIAL for desktop release? I'm guessing the answer is "yes" but just checking.
N5ZUA
On 1/29/2017 4:13 AM, "David McGough via arm-allstar" wrote:
Hi Everyone,
We were able to reproduce this issue tonight, and it was a bug in the app_rpt module. This bug got accidentally introduced back in August, 2016, as of AllStar SVN revision 1537 (app_rpt version 0.326).
We were able to develop a patch that fixes this issue.
To resolve this bug in version 1.5, please run the system update menu item ("1 - Perform a System UPDATE") from the Admin Menu. Once the update is complete, Asterisk will automatically restart. No reboot should be needed.
Please give it a try -- THIS IS AN IMPORTANT UPDATE!
73, David KB4FXC
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On 1/29/17 1:20 PM, Tom Hayward wrote:
Now all we need to do is wait for, or possibly prompt, the Hamvoip team to share their modifications.
Isn't this the fundamental requirement of the GPL that you cannot release object code without source? -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net
it has to 'be available' freely. most have taken that to mean in the tar file or iso, but it's not unheard that the source is located at a url. -- Bryan Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this message.
On Jan 29, 2017, at 13:23, Bryan Fields <Bryan@bryanfields.net> wrote:
On 1/29/17 1:20 PM, Tom Hayward wrote: Now all we need to do is wait for, or possibly prompt, the Hamvoip team to share their modifications.
Isn't this the fundamental requirement of the GPL that you cannot release object code without source?
-- Bryan Fields
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On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 11:43 AM, Bryan D. Boyle <bdboyle@bdboyle.com> wrote:
it has to 'be available' freely. most have taken that to mean in the tar file or iso, but it's not unheard that the source is located at a url.
Note that in this case the distinction is irrelevant. In previous Hamvoip releases, the source code was included in the img. Sources used to compile the latest release, including the bugfix mentioned in this thread, are not available in a tar, iso, nor at some URL. Doug alluded to releasing the source at some time in the future via a software package, but at the moment none of the v1.5 sources have been shared. In a private email, David McGough indicated to me that he had no intention of sharing the code any time soon, and seems to forget about the contributions made by all the other app_rpt developers like Jim and Steve:
*I* am the software developer, so *I* will choose to release the source code when *I* am ready to do so. So lets [sic] don't [sic] argue subtleties of the GPL 2.
Publishing binary-only bugfixes not only violates the software license, it's harmful to the community because it leaves the bug unfixed for everyone running non-Hamvoip versions of app_rpt. Tom KD7LXL
Tom, This is Davids exact intention. He is trying to drive a wedge between the groups and I have no intention of taking the bait. The bug will be fixed, not today or tomorrow but it will be fixed. The fix will be available to everyone. Any more that I could say would just give the ammunition. Sterve On 01/29/2017 03:18 PM, Tom Hayward wrote:
Publishing binary-only bugfixes not only violates the software license, it's harmful to the community because it leaves the bug unfixed for everyone running non-Hamvoip versions of app_rpt.
-- "Real programmers us vi, that's why I use nano"
That seems to be a fairly serious accusation of motive. I don't know whether anyone is trying to drive a wedge between any groups, but it sure seems to me that we're a small enough community already that any divisions can't but hurt the whole community, and any collaborations can't but help. Of course, forking of app_rpt and friends is not unheard of; Xipar is another such, and there seem to be incompatibilities between, for example, the original usbradio modules and Steve's urd ones, and perhaps other incompatibilities as well. I don't know. Do we know, has Doug's group explicitly said they would not contribute any of their work back to the main line distribution? I was under the impression that their efforts would, in fact, assit the main All Star Link effort and not just the hamVOIP fork of same. Am I wrong about this? So as to not clutter up the list with tons of email (yeah right...), and maybe to contribute to the confusion, here's what the README says about source code. Source code is not a part of the image download but will be available as a package download. The source is significant in size and unless you have a need for it there is no reason to download. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: 814-860-3194 Mobile: 814-431-0962 Email: buddy@brannan.name
On Jan 29, 2017, at 3:31 PM, Steve Zingman <szingman@msgstor.com> wrote:
Tom, This is Davids exact intention. He is trying to drive a wedge between the groups and I have no intention of taking the bait. The bug will be fixed, not today or tomorrow but it will be fixed. The fix will be available to everyone.
Any more that I could say would just give the ammunition.
Sterve
On 01/29/2017 03:18 PM, Tom Hayward wrote:
Publishing binary-only bugfixes not only violates the software license, it's harmful to the community because it leaves the bug unfixed for everyone running non-Hamvoip versions of app_rpt.
-- "Real programmers us vi, that's why I use nano"
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Dear Tom, You have chosen to take comments from me out of context and you are propagating FUD. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt Enough Said. 73, David KB4FXC On Sun, 29 Jan 2017, Tom Hayward wrote:
On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 11:43 AM, Bryan D. Boyle <bdboyle@bdboyle.com> wrote: it has to 'be available' freely. most have taken that to mean in the tar file or iso, but it's not unheard that the source is located at a url.
Note that in this case the distinction is irrelevant. In previous Hamvoip releases, the source code was included in the img. Sources used to compile the latest release, including the bugfix mentioned in this thread, are not available in a tar, iso, nor at some URL. Doug alluded to releasing the source at some time in the future via a software package, but at the moment none of the v1.5 sources have been shared. In a private email, David McGough indicated to me that he had no intention of sharing the code any time soon, and seems to forget about the contributions made by all the other app_rpt developers like Jim and Steve:
*I* am the software developer, so *I* will choose to release the source code when *I* am ready to do so. So lets [sic] don't [sic] argue subtleties of the GPL 2.
Publishing binary-only bugfixes not only violates the software license, it's harmful to the community because it leaves the bug unfixed for everyone running non-Hamvoip versions of app_rpt. Tom KD7LXL _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem.
On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 2:37 PM, David McGough <kb4fxc@inttek.net> wrote:
Dear Tom,
You have chosen to take comments from me out of context and you are propagating FUD. See:
<link removed>
Enough Said.
73, David KB4FXC
David, since it took place in a private email between the two of you, would you mind sharing the comment in the context you desired so everyone is fully informed? Brett KQ9N
On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 12:37 PM, David McGough <kb4fxc@inttek.net> wrote:
Dear Tom,
You have chosen to take comments from me out of context and you are propagating FUD. See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt
Enough Said.
73, David KB4FXC
David, nice to hear from you! Since you haven't responded to me since the quoted email, I thought maybe you were offline for the rest of the weekend. I'm still interested in a copy of the source code so I can port over my changes to chan_voter.c. Here is the full, unedited context David is asking for. Note that he could have just as easily posted this himself instead of taking it off-list. Tom KD7LXL ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: David McGough <kb4fxc@inttek.net> Date: Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 12:10 PM Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] The hamvoip Allstar V1.5 release is now available! To: Tom Hayward <tom@tomh.us> Cc: doug@crompton.com Dear Tom. I am discouraged that you are trying to sour the HamVoIP project using a stupid GPL argument which we both know will hold no water. *I* am the software developer, so *I* will choose to release the source code when *I* am ready to do so. So lets don't argue subtleties of the GPL 2. If you want to fight a GPL battle, I suggest you go after any one of the dozens of for-profit corporations who shamelessly embed Linux in their products and REFUSE to release any code whatsoever. And, then if they do EVER release any code, it's hacked up garbage that is useless. If you want to download, use and further develop our software release, I'll be happy to cooperate. But, if you're just trying to be a wanna-be GPL cop, I've got no time in the day to waste on further discussion. Sincerely, David McGough, KB4FXC On Sat, 28 Jan 2017, "Tom Hayward via arm-allstar" wrote:
On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 11:26 AM, "Buddy Brannan via arm-allstar" <arm-allstar@hamvoip.org> wrote:
That isn't what it says at all. By the terms of the GPL, source has to be available. Nowhere in the README does it say that the source *isn't* available, nor does it say that this fork *isn't* open source. Of course it is. It just says the source is not distributed in the image, but it can still be had.
Talking about making the source available and actually making the source available are two different things. So far there has only been talk about releasing the source, eventually. This does not meet the criteria of the license.
Giving Doug the benefit of the doubt, I asked for a link to the source. He deferred to a README that does not contain the source. I'm still waiting for that link to the source code.
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