http://www.arrl.org/repeaters You have to be coordinated, and can only change information they have (ie, if it isn't coordinated or is a hotspot or....no dice). BUT, if enough of us make noise about listing our AllStar node numbers, maybe the dolts in the League publishing division will finally resolve their cranial-rectal inversion and start listing allstar node numbers where applicable? Civil obedience, quietly....??? -- Bryan In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. You may quote me. Sent from my MacBook Pro.
No one really takes the ARRL seriously anymore. They are a PRIVATE business just like AARP and AAA Auto Club. Selling old books, key chains, propeller hats and services you will never use nor need. They are stuck in the 19th century, books still contain TUBE projects. The ARRL does VERY LITTLE for HAM radio in general.You have to PAY to use their repeater directory or buy one fresh off the press with outdated information in it. The publications are chock full of PAID Advertisements, they "Shill" for anyone willing to PAY to be in them. The ARRL will be quick to tell you what you CAN'T DO...and nowhere to be found when you need them to protect our interest (Like PAVPAWS in California).ARRL wants your 900Mhz repeaters on a insane split (That Icom came up with) because they are a customer, the rest of us use converted commercial gear on 902/927Mhz.People flock to the INTERNET for recent Repeater listings, NOT the OFFICIAL (in their mind) ARRL Repeater Directory. In MY OPINION..the ARRL is a lot like the old cartoons "Heckle & Jeckle"...nonsense talking Magpies.... Kirk On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Bryan D. Boyle <bdboyle@bdboyle.com> wrote:
You have to be coordinated, and can only change information they have (ie, if it isn't coordinated or is a hotspot or....no dice). BUT, if enough of us make noise about listing our AllStar node numbers, maybe the dolts in the League publishing division will finally resolve their cranial-rectal inversion and start listing allstar node numbers where applicable?
Civil obedience, quietly....???
-- Bryan In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. You may quote me.
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no disagreement here. but, some may think the League still has relevance, so, in the interest of keeping the info as fresh as possible...what the heck...even a broken and worthless clock is right and useful twice a day...lol. (that less than 40% of the licensed hams are members are a pretty good indication as to how they're viewed; look at a QST from the 60s and compare it to the lightweight stuff they pubkish today...no comparison) -- Bryan Sent from my iPhone 5...small keyboard, big fingers...please forgive misspellings...
On Jan 28, 2014, at 20:41, Kirk Just Kirk <wb6egr@gmail.com> wrote:
No one really takes the ARRL seriously anymore. They are a PRIVATE business just like AARP and AAA Auto Club. Selling old books, key chains, propeller hats and services you will never use nor need. They are stuck in the 19th century, books still contain TUBE projects. The ARRL does VERY LITTLE for HAM radio in general.You have to PAY to use their repeater directory or buy one fresh off the press with outdated information in it. The publications are chock full of PAID Advertisements, they "Shill" for anyone willing to PAY to be in them. The ARRL will be quick to tell you what you CAN'T DO...and nowhere to be found when you need them to protect our interest (Like PAVPAWS in California).ARRL wants your 900Mhz repeaters on a insane split (That Icom came up with) because they are a customer, the rest of us use converted commercial gear on 902/927Mhz.People flock to the INTERNET for recent Repeater listings, NOT the OFFICIAL (in their mind) ARRL Repeater Directory. In MY OPINION..the ARRL is a lot like the old cartoons "Heckle & Jeckle"...nonsense talking Magpies....
Kirk
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Bryan D. Boyle <bdboyle@bdboyle.com> wrote: http://www.arrl.org/repeaters
You have to be coordinated, and can only change information they have (ie, if it isn't coordinated or is a hotspot or....no dice). BUT, if enough of us make noise about listing our AllStar node numbers, maybe the dolts in the League publishing division will finally resolve their cranial-rectal inversion and start listing allstar node numbers where applicable?
Civil obedience, quietly....???
-- Bryan In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. You may quote me.
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Quoting you, pleasant in this case won't work. Not with an organisation that *claims* its the oldest amateur radio association in the world (that title goes to another American league, the longest *continuous* running is the Australia WIA, whom I will never join, because they will never man up to the ACMA and demand packet radio for Foundation) - I think, for "Old Man Radio" his days are numbered. The uproar when Morse was dropped! Wow-wee, guys, we had 3G on 2100MHz in Australia at that point. Why do I want to string up open wire all over the place, and pretend I'm cool, when Tesla did cool with elegance? Really, most clubs, leagues, and association are beyond antiquated, they are prehistoric. I remember, when I first started researching packet radio in 1997, we were "setting the frontiers" by hooking up a T1 over radio using coffee cans. The WIA would cringe if I did something of that sort. Then legislate me out of existence. Now do you know why I refuse to hold an Australian Amateur Licence, of any grade? If people want to politick, there is the Labor Party. Meanwhile, if you like radios, there is always this list. I hold on to that hope at least... By the way, all programmers, bug submitters, and ideas people, keep up your good work! I always appreciate reading your thoughts. Thanks! On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Kirk Just Kirk <wb6egr@gmail.com> wrote:
No one really takes the ARRL seriously anymore. They are a PRIVATE business just like AARP and AAA Auto Club. Selling old books, key chains, propeller hats and services you will never use nor need. They are stuck in the 19th century, books still contain TUBE projects. The ARRL does VERY LITTLE for HAM radio in general.You have to PAY to use their repeater directory or buy one fresh off the press with outdated information in it. The publications are chock full of PAID Advertisements, they "Shill" for anyone willing to PAY to be in them. The ARRL will be quick to tell you what you CAN'T DO...and nowhere to be found when you need them to protect our interest (Like PAVPAWS in California).ARRL wants your 900Mhz repeaters on a insane split (That Icom came up with) because they are a customer, the rest of us use converted commercial gear on 902/927Mhz.People flock to the INTERNET for recent Repeater listings, NOT the OFFICIAL (in their mind) ARRL Repeater Directory. In MY OPINION..the ARRL is a lot like the old cartoons "Heckle & Jeckle"...nonsense talking Magpies....
Kirk
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Bryan D. Boyle <bdboyle@bdboyle.com>wrote:
You have to be coordinated, and can only change information they have (ie, if it isn't coordinated or is a hotspot or....no dice). BUT, if enough of us make noise about listing our AllStar node numbers, maybe the dolts in the League publishing division will finally resolve their cranial-rectal inversion and start listing allstar node numbers where applicable?
Civil obedience, quietly....???
-- Bryan In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. You may quote me.
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On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Bryan D. Boyle <bdboyle@bdboyle.com <mailto:bdboyle@bdboyle.com>> wrote:
You have to be coordinated, and can only change information they have (ie, if it isn't coordinated or is a hotspot or....no dice). BUT, if enough of us make noise about listing our AllStar node numbers, maybe the dolts in the League publishing division will finally resolve their cranial-rectal inversion and start listing allstar node numbers where applicable?
Civil obedience, quietly....???
Screw the Armenian Rump Rubber League. Repeaterbook (http://www.repeaterbook.com/) lists repeaters with allstar numbers. <http://www.repeaterbook.com/> and they have a free Android app. -Geoff/W5OMR <http://www.repeaterbook.com/>
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