David, I think all we have left is the wiki. Could be wrong. I have put a small amount of time to update some things I know about but it needs additional work. Personally, I have a hard time navigating it to find stuff to point in reference to in the list. It needs a better menu system of organization in my opinion. But I have A.D.D. ..LOL... So probably just me. ...mike/kb8jnm On 10/21/2018 4:35 PM, David McGough wrote:

Is the Drupal site on docs.allstarlink.org permanently down??? Has is been replaced with another equivalent site?

73, David KB4FXC

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On Oct 21, 2018, at 17:05, David McGough <kb4fxc@inttek.net> wrote:

Who was hosting the docs.allstarlink.org site?? VPS or dedicated hardware?? Is there a mirror anywhere??

It'll be ashame to loose all that documentation about AllStar / app_rpt. The wiki site has only a tiny fraction of the content that was on the docs site, unless I'm over looking something??

If it's only a matter of needing a place to host the docs site, that concern can be instantly overcome.

73, David KB4FXC

...

On Sun, 21 Oct 2018, Mike wrote:

David, I think all we have left is the wiki. Could be wrong. I have put a small amount of time to update some things I know about but it needs additional work. Personally, I have a hard time navigating it to find stuff to point in reference to in the list. It needs a better menu system of organization in my opinion. But I have A.D.D. ..LOL... So probably just me.

...mike/kb8jnm

...

On 10/21/2018 4:35 PM, David McGough wrote:

Is the Drupal site on docs.allstarlink.org permanently down??? Has is been replaced with another equivalent site?

73, David KB4FXC

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Guys, The drop of the docs site is my fault. Nobody else's... I am cleaning out some very old subnets at my datacenter and it seems one of the IPs was an old one Jim was using that I had misidentified. David, I provide more than enough hosting space for the allstar project, but thanks for the offer. Sorry everyone, I have identified it and re-enabled the site - we will work to either move it off that subnet or keep that subnet active. Enjoy your weekend, I'm hunting Dolcie! 73s. Mike Kb8zgl On 10/21/18, 6:09 PM, "App_rpt-users on behalf of David McGough" <app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org on behalf of kb4fxc@inttek.net> wrote: So, what happened to the docs.allstarlink.org site??? As for running my mouth, I'll provide hosting for the docs website or server for FREE, if that's the issue. No stupid political strings attached. On Sun, 21 Oct 2018, Bryan Fields wrote: > John David, I’ve yet to see you do anything on the wiki, or assist in any way other than running your mouth. Oh and theres the whole criminal copyright infringement and plagiarism thing. > > -- > Bryan Fields > M: +1-727-409-1194 > > > On Oct 21, 2018, at 17:05, David McGough <kb4fxc@inttek.net> wrote: > > > > > > Who was hosting the docs.allstarlink.org site?? VPS or dedicated > > hardware?? Is there a mirror anywhere?? > > > > It'll be ashame to loose all that documentation about AllStar / app_rpt. > > The wiki site has only a tiny fraction of the content that was on the docs > > site, unless I'm over looking something?? > > > > If it's only a matter of needing a place to host the docs site, that > > concern can be instantly overcome. > > > > 73, David KB4FXC > > > > > > > >> On Sun, 21 Oct 2018, Mike wrote: > >> > >> David, > >> I think all we have left is the wiki. Could be wrong. > >> I have put a small amount of time to update some things I know about but > >> it needs additional work. > >> Personally, I have a hard time navigating it to find stuff to point in > >> reference to in the list. It needs a better menu system of organization > >> in my opinion. But I have A.D.D. ..LOL... So probably just me. > >> > >> ...mike/kb8jnm > >> > >> > >>> On 10/21/2018 4:35 PM, David McGough wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> Is the Drupal site on docs.allstarlink.org permanently down??? Has is been > >>> replaced with another equivalent site? > >>> > >>> > >>> 73, David KB4FXC > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> App_rpt-users mailing list > >>> App_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org > >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > >>> > >>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > >>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> App_rpt-users mailing list > >> App_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org > >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > >> > >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > App_rpt-users mailing list > > App_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org > > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem.

On 10/21/18 6:08 PM, David McGough wrote:

So, what happened to the docs.allstarlink.org site??? It should be noted, John David and his co-conspirators so kindly test every AllStarLink.org server, even those unpublished in DNS, every 30 seconds. Sounds very friendly to me.

As for running my mouth, I'll provide hosting for the docs website or server for FREE, if that's the issue. No stupid political strings attached.

John David, nothing you offer is free; you are a fraud and a criminal. -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net

On 10/24/18 1:48 AM, David McGough wrote:

Bryan,

What in the world are you talking about???? *MY* testing the AllStarLink.org servers every 30 seconds??? Total BS!! John David, your company's servers are pinging, sending requests to all registration servers and nodes servers every 30 seconds.

So, what are the IP addresses these so-called "tests" are coming from?

12.17.28.0/23

As for the rest of your comments, you are clearly an blooming idiot with a grudge.

You are a criminal fraud, pure and simple. You're deflecting from your ongoing fraud when called out on it. You've plagiarized and stolen the AllStar code and are distributing it with out any legal authority to do so. This is what a criminal does. -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net

On 10/24/18 2:09 AM, David McGough wrote:

Bryan,

I'm calling you out on this BULLSH*T.

You can say Bullshit here, we don't find it necessary to censor people. Only people lacking in reason and critical thinking skills find censorship necessary.

WHAT SPECIFIC ADDRESSES ARE THESE "TESTS" COMING FROM???

THEY ARE NOT COMING FROM ANY OF MY SUBNETS!

The first rule of arguing, if you lack a superior argument, simply be louder. While technically true, you don't own the subnet listed. It's been SWIP'd to you be ATT. Ipso facto, it's under your control. NetRange: 12.17.28.0 - 12.17.29.255 CIDR: 12.17.28.0/23 NetName: INTERNET61-28 NetHandle: NET-12-17-28-0-1 Parent: ATT (NET-12-0-0-0-1) NetType: Reassigned OriginAS: Organization: INTERNET TECHNOLOGIES INC. ACC (ITIA-1) RegDate: 2004-06-17 Updated: 2004-06-17 Ref: https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/12.17.28.0 OrgTechHandle: DMC131-ARIN OrgTechName: Mcgough, Dave OrgTechPhone: +1-910-792-1786 OrgTechEmail: jdmcgough@inttek.net OrgTechRef: https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/DMC131-ARIN 12.17.29.168 is one such IP, and it's got a PTR of ns.nodes.hamvoip.org. Yea, I must be lying, as criminals never lie. -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net

I would very much like the name calling and accusations to stop. In an effort to calm things down I would like to mention an item of the parties working together. As David mentioned, a board member (me) gave nodelist access to HamVoIP for use in their DNS lookup system. In return David promised to deliver source code to enable non-HamVoIP nodes access to the DNS system. When that's complete we all will have a better AllStar as a result of working together. Lets quit ripping into each other and focus on areas of common interest. On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 12:10 AM David McGough <kb4fxc@inttek.net> wrote:

Bryan,

LMAO. Well, seeing as 12.17.28.0/23 has been under my control since 2004, yeah I think I'll claim it.

As for the 12.17.29.168 IP address, that is assigned to a VPS at my CoLo.

Yep, it was used for the hamvoip.org DNS lookup system. IT HAS ALSO BEEN DOWN SINCE HURRICANE FLORENCE, ABOUT 09/14/2018---over a month ago!

As for "TESTING," all that system EVER did was retrieve a copy of the published nodelist file once about every 30 seconds from the DNS PUBLISHED AllStarLink registration system. The was for use with the HamVoIP DNS lookup system. I was officially granted access to do this by a member of the AllStarLink, Inc., board.

So, unless you've got anything else (which you don't!), crawl back under your rock.

73, David KB4FXC

On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Bryan Fields wrote:

...

On 10/24/18 2:09 AM, David McGough wrote:

...

Bryan,

I'm calling you out on this BULLSH*T.

You can say Bullshit here, we don't find it necessary to censor people.

Only people lacking in reason and critical thinking skills find censorship necessary.

...

WHAT SPECIFIC ADDRESSES ARE THESE "TESTS" COMING FROM???

THEY ARE NOT COMING FROM ANY OF MY SUBNETS!

The first rule of arguing, if you lack a superior argument, simply be louder.

While technically true, you don't own the subnet listed. It's been SWIP'd to you be ATT. Ipso facto, it's under your control.

NetRange: 12.17.28.0 - 12.17.29.255 CIDR: 12.17.28.0/23 NetName: INTERNET61-28 NetHandle: NET-12-17-28-0-1 Parent: ATT (NET-12-0-0-0-1) NetType: Reassigned OriginAS: Organization: INTERNET TECHNOLOGIES INC. ACC (ITIA-1) RegDate: 2004-06-17 Updated: 2004-06-17 Ref: https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/12.17.28.0

OrgTechHandle: DMC131-ARIN OrgTechName: Mcgough, Dave OrgTechPhone: +1-910-792-1786 OrgTechEmail: jdmcgough@inttek.net OrgTechRef: https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/DMC131-ARIN

12.17.29.168 is one such IP, and it's got a PTR of ns.nodes.hamvoip.org. Yea, I must be lying, as criminals never lie.

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On 10/24/18 3:26 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote:

I would very much like the name calling and accusations to stop. In an effort to calm things down I would like to mention an item of the parties working together. 

As David mentioned, a board member (me) gave nodelist access to HamVoIP for use in their DNS lookup system.

This was access to pull the nodes list, not to ping, and poll all servers in the cluster. He was polling each server in the cluster, and sending ICMP at other servers from that IP as well. None of this was ever authorized when I was on the board.

In return David promised to deliver source code

He's promised to deliver source code by distributing "his" HamVOIP software. He has no license to distributed it without it. He has promised me he would release his source in March. This is not being nice or working with him, it's a _requirement_ of the GPL, the license all our code is under. As John David has been unable to actually develop code on his own, he's bound to abide by the license. What is there to negotiate on? He's breaking the law, and to demand he follows the law is not controversial, it's basic morals.

When that's complete we all will have a better AllStar as a result of working together.  

Lets quit ripping into each other and focus on areas of common interest.  

Some one is committing an attack on the community and you as a board member don't seem to want to rectify it. I'm not content to sit on my hands and do nothing about John David misdeeds. People who support John David and people like him will be the downfall of good software in amateur radio. -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net

David, I think the community is looking to you to honor the other side of this as well. Yet you make no mention of releasing code improvements, code changes, source in general. I agree this is the major sticking point for myself as well as someone who helps on these projects. I am bringing in good friends to also help code and work on app_rpt and everyone's work deserves recognition through the use of common repo. I mean, why not just branch it and make a HamVoip branch and be done with all this? Just be the bigger man and put your wonderful code out there for others to grow upon. We can then start working towards a common goal together through unity! We can put this past behind us. Mike Kb8zgl On 10/24/18, 3:48 PM, "App_rpt-users on behalf of David McGough" <app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org on behalf of kb4fxc@inttek.net> wrote: Tim, Agreed. And, well stated. I great plan would be to have full DNS integration completed by Christmas 2018. I think this is realistic goal, if we work together and make it happen. 73, David KB4FXC On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Tim Sawyer wrote: > I would very much like the name calling and accusations to stop. In an > effort to calm things down I would like to mention an item of the parties > working together. > > As David mentioned, a board member (me) gave nodelist access to HamVoIP for > use in their DNS lookup system. In return David promised to deliver source > code to enable non-HamVoIP nodes access to the DNS system. When that's > complete we all will have a better AllStar as a result of working > together. > > Lets quit ripping into each other and focus on areas of common interest. > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 12:10 AM David McGough <kb4fxc@inttek.net> wrote: > > > > > Bryan, > > > > LMAO. Well, seeing as 12.17.28.0/23 has been under my control since > > 2004, > > yeah I think I'll claim it. > > > > As for the 12.17.29.168 IP address, that is assigned to a VPS at my CoLo. > > > > Yep, it was used for the hamvoip.org DNS lookup system. IT HAS ALSO BEEN > > DOWN SINCE HURRICANE FLORENCE, ABOUT 09/14/2018---over a month ago! > > > > As for "TESTING," all that system EVER did was retrieve a copy of the > > published nodelist file once about every 30 seconds from the DNS PUBLISHED > > AllStarLink registration system. The was for use with the HamVoIP DNS > > lookup system. I was officially granted access to do this by a member of > > the AllStarLink, Inc., board. > > > > So, unless you've got anything else (which you don't!), crawl back under > > your rock. > > > > > > 73, David KB4FXC > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Bryan Fields wrote: > > > > > On 10/24/18 2:09 AM, David McGough wrote: > > > > Bryan, > > > > > > > > I'm calling you out on this BULLSH*T. > > > > > > You can say Bullshit here, we don't find it necessary to censor people. > > > > > > Only people lacking in reason and critical thinking skills find > > censorship > > > necessary. > > > > > > > WHAT SPECIFIC ADDRESSES ARE THESE "TESTS" COMING FROM??? > > > > > > > > THEY ARE NOT COMING FROM ANY OF MY SUBNETS! > > > > > > The first rule of arguing, if you lack a superior argument, simply be > > louder. > > > > > > While technically true, you don't own the subnet listed. It's been > > SWIP'd to > > > you be ATT. Ipso facto, it's under your control. > > > > > > NetRange: 12.17.28.0 - 12.17.29.255 > > > CIDR: 12.17.28.0/23 > > > NetName: INTERNET61-28 > > > NetHandle: NET-12-17-28-0-1 > > > Parent: ATT (NET-12-0-0-0-1) > > > NetType: Reassigned > > > OriginAS: > > > Organization: INTERNET TECHNOLOGIES INC. ACC (ITIA-1) > > > RegDate: 2004-06-17 > > > Updated: 2004-06-17 > > > Ref: https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/12.17.28.0 > > > > > > OrgTechHandle: DMC131-ARIN > > > OrgTechName: Mcgough, Dave > > > OrgTechPhone: +1-910-792-1786 > > > OrgTechEmail: jdmcgough@inttek.net > > > OrgTechRef: https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/DMC131-ARIN > > > > > > 12.17.29.168 is one such IP, and it's got a PTR of ns.nodes.hamvoip.org. > > Yea, > > > I must be lying, as criminals never lie. > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > App_rpt-users mailing list > > App_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org > > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > > the list detailing the problem. > > > > > _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem.

Bryan, You have have such a overactive imagination, you should seriously take up writing fictional novels. You might actually find your calling there---because what you've scribbled below is complete horse hockey. 73, David KB4FXC On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Bryan Fields wrote:

On 10/24/18 3:26 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote: I would very much like the name calling and accusations to stop. In an effort to calm things down I would like to mention an item of the parties working together. 

As David mentioned, a board member (me) gave nodelist access to HamVoIP for use in their DNS lookup system.

This was access to pull the nodes list, not to ping, and poll all servers in the cluster. He was polling each server in the cluster, and sending ICMP at other servers from that IP as well. None of this was ever authorized when I was on the board.

In return David promised to deliver source code

He's promised to deliver source code by distributing "his" HamVOIP software. He has no license to distributed it without it. He has promised me he would release his source in March. This is not being nice or working with him, it's a _requirement_ of the GPL, the license all our code is under. As John David has been unable to actually develop code on his own, he's bound to abide by the license. What is there to negotiate on? He's breaking the law, and to demand he follows the law is not controversial, it's basic morals.

When that's complete we all will have a better AllStar as a result of working together.  

Lets quit ripping into each other and focus on areas of common interest.  

Some one is committing an attack on the community and you as a board member don't seem to want to rectify it. I'm not content to sit on my hands and do nothing about John David misdeeds. People who support John David and people like him will be the downfall of good software in amateur radio. -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem.

I agree. I stopped using HamVoIP when I learned it uses open source code and is closed. Not cool. Not legal. KK6QMS -----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users <app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org> On Behalf Of Michael Wolthuis Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 12:58 PM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] docs.allstarlink.org David, I think the community is looking to you to honor the other side of this as well. Yet you make no mention of releasing code improvements, code changes, source in general. I agree this is the major sticking point for myself as well as someone who helps on these projects. I am bringing in good friends to also help code and work on app_rpt and everyone's work deserves recognition through the use of common repo. I mean, why not just branch it and make a HamVoip branch and be done with all this? Just be the bigger man and put your wonderful code out there for others to grow upon. We can then start working towards a common goal together through unity! We can put this past behind us. Mike Kb8zgl On 10/24/18, 3:48 PM, "App_rpt-users on behalf of David McGough" <app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org on behalf of kb4fxc@inttek.net> wrote: Tim, Agreed. And, well stated. I great plan would be to have full DNS integration completed by Christmas 2018. I think this is realistic goal, if we work together and make it happen. 73, David KB4FXC On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Tim Sawyer wrote: > I would very much like the name calling and accusations to stop. In an > effort to calm things down I would like to mention an item of the parties > working together. > > As David mentioned, a board member (me) gave nodelist access to HamVoIP for > use in their DNS lookup system. In return David promised to deliver source > code to enable non-HamVoIP nodes access to the DNS system. When that's > complete we all will have a better AllStar as a result of working > together. > > Lets quit ripping into each other and focus on areas of common interest. > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 12:10 AM David McGough <kb4fxc@inttek.net> wrote: > > > > > Bryan, > > > > LMAO. Well, seeing as 12.17.28.0/23 has been under my control since > > 2004, > > yeah I think I'll claim it. > > > > As for the 12.17.29.168 IP address, that is assigned to a VPS at my CoLo. > > > > Yep, it was used for the hamvoip.org DNS lookup system. IT HAS ALSO BEEN > > DOWN SINCE HURRICANE FLORENCE, ABOUT 09/14/2018---over a month ago! > > > > As for "TESTING," all that system EVER did was retrieve a copy of the > > published nodelist file once about every 30 seconds from the DNS PUBLISHED > > AllStarLink registration system. The was for use with the HamVoIP DNS > > lookup system. I was officially granted access to do this by a member of > > the AllStarLink, Inc., board. > > > > So, unless you've got anything else (which you don't!), crawl back under > > your rock. > > > > > > 73, David KB4FXC > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Bryan Fields wrote: > > > > > On 10/24/18 2:09 AM, David McGough wrote: > > > > Bryan, > > > > > > > > I'm calling you out on this BULLSH*T. > > > > > > You can say Bullshit here, we don't find it necessary to censor people. > > > > > > Only people lacking in reason and critical thinking skills find > > censorship > > > necessary. > > > > > > > WHAT SPECIFIC ADDRESSES ARE THESE "TESTS" COMING FROM??? > > > > > > > > THEY ARE NOT COMING FROM ANY OF MY SUBNETS! > > > > > > The first rule of arguing, if you lack a superior argument, simply be > > louder. > > > > > > While technically true, you don't own the subnet listed. It's been > > SWIP'd to > > > you be ATT. Ipso facto, it's under your control. > > > > > > NetRange: 12.17.28.0 - 12.17.29.255 > > > CIDR: 12.17.28.0/23 > > > NetName: INTERNET61-28 > > > NetHandle: NET-12-17-28-0-1 > > > Parent: ATT (NET-12-0-0-0-1) > > > NetType: Reassigned > > > OriginAS: > > > Organization: INTERNET TECHNOLOGIES INC. ACC (ITIA-1) > > > RegDate: 2004-06-17 > > > Updated: 2004-06-17 > > > Ref: https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/12.17.28.0 > > > > > > OrgTechHandle: DMC131-ARIN > > > OrgTechName: Mcgough, Dave > > > OrgTechPhone: +1-910-792-1786 > > > OrgTechEmail: jdmcgough@inttek.net > > > OrgTechRef: https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/DMC131-ARIN > > > > > > 12.17.29.168 is one such IP, and it's got a PTR of ns.nodes.hamvoip.org. > > Yea, > > > I must be lying, as criminals never lie. > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > App_rpt-users mailing list > > App_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org > > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > > scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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Its at the bottom of every email.. To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. From: App_rpt-users <app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org> On Behalf Of David Shaw Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 8:40 PM To: APP RPT <app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] docs.allstarlink.org How do you get off this list. I mean WOW. One would think they are watching CNN (HamVoIP) on one TV and Fox (AllStar) on the other. -- Thanks, David On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 5:16 PM cnovey <cnovey@gmail.com<mailto:cnovey@gmail.com>> wrote: I agree. I stopped using HamVoIP when I learned it uses open source code and is closed. Not cool. Not legal. KK6QMS -----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users <app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org<mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org>> On Behalf Of Michael Wolthuis Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 12:58 PM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org<mailto:app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] docs.allstarlink.org<http://docs.allstarlink.org> David, I think the community is looking to you to honor the other side of this as well. Yet you make no mention of releasing code improvements, code changes, source in general. I agree this is the major sticking point for myself as well as someone who helps on these projects. I am bringing in good friends to also help code and work on app_rpt and everyone's work deserves recognition through the use of common repo. I mean, why not just branch it and make a HamVoip branch and be done with all this? Just be the bigger man and put your wonderful code out there for others to grow upon. We can then start working towards a common goal together through unity! We can put this past behind us. Mike Kb8zgl On 10/24/18, 3:48 PM, "App_rpt-users on behalf of David McGough" <app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org<mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org> on behalf of kb4fxc@inttek.net<mailto:kb4fxc@inttek.net>> wrote: Tim, Agreed. And, well stated. I great plan would be to have full DNS integration completed by Christmas 2018. I think this is realistic goal, if we work together and make it happen. 73, David KB4FXC On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Tim Sawyer wrote: > I would very much like the name calling and accusations to stop. In an > effort to calm things down I would like to mention an item of the parties > working together. > > As David mentioned, a board member (me) gave nodelist access to HamVoIP for > use in their DNS lookup system. In return David promised to deliver source > code to enable non-HamVoIP nodes access to the DNS system. When that's > complete we all will have a better AllStar as a result of working > together. > > Lets quit ripping into each other and focus on areas of common interest. > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 12:10 AM David McGough <kb4fxc@inttek.net<mailto:kb4fxc@inttek.net>> wrote: > > > > > Bryan, > > > > LMAO. Well, seeing as 12.17.28.0/23<http://12.17.28.0/23> has been under my control since > > 2004, > > yeah I think I'll claim it. > > > > As for the 12.17.29.168 IP address, that is assigned to a VPS at my CoLo. > > > > Yep, it was used for the hamvoip.org<http://hamvoip.org> DNS lookup system. IT HAS ALSO BEEN > > DOWN SINCE HURRICANE FLORENCE, ABOUT 09/14/2018---over a month ago! > > > > As for "TESTING," all that system EVER did was retrieve a copy of the > > published nodelist file once about every 30 seconds from the DNS PUBLISHED > > AllStarLink registration system. The was for use with the HamVoIP DNS > > lookup system. I was officially granted access to do this by a member of > > the AllStarLink, Inc., board. > > > > So, unless you've got anything else (which you don't!), crawl back under > > your rock. > > > > > > 73, David KB4FXC > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Bryan Fields wrote: > > > > > On 10/24/18 2:09 AM, David McGough wrote: > > > > Bryan, > > > > > > > > I'm calling you out on this BULLSH*T. > > > > > > You can say Bullshit here, we don't find it necessary to censor people. > > > > > > Only people lacking in reason and critical thinking skills find > > censorship > > > necessary. > > > > > > > WHAT SPECIFIC ADDRESSES ARE THESE "TESTS" COMING FROM??? > > > > > > > > THEY ARE NOT COMING FROM ANY OF MY SUBNETS! > > > > > > The first rule of arguing, if you lack a superior argument, simply be > > louder. > > > > > > While technically true, you don't own the subnet listed. It's been > > SWIP'd to > > > you be ATT. Ipso facto, it's under your control. > > > > > > NetRange: 12.17.28.0 - 12.17.29.255 > > > CIDR: 12.17.28.0/23<http://12.17.28.0/23> > > > NetName: INTERNET61-28 > > > NetHandle: NET-12-17-28-0-1 > > > Parent: ATT (NET-12-0-0-0-1) > > > NetType: Reassigned > > > OriginAS: > > > Organization: INTERNET TECHNOLOGIES INC. ACC (ITIA-1) > > > RegDate: 2004-06-17 > > > Updated: 2004-06-17 > > > Ref: https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/12.17.28.0 > > > > > > OrgTechHandle: DMC131-ARIN > > > OrgTechName: Mcgough, Dave > > > OrgTechPhone: +1-910-792-1786 > > > OrgTechEmail: jdmcgough@inttek.net<mailto:jdmcgough@inttek.net> > > > OrgTechRef: https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/DMC131-ARIN > > > > > > 12.17.29.168 is one such IP, and it's got a PTR of ns.nodes.hamvoip.org<http://ns.nodes.hamvoip.org>. > > Yea, > > > I must be lying, as criminals never lie. > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > App_rpt-users mailing list > > App_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org<mailto:App_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org> > > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > > scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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The link is at the bottom. Help yourself... On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 11:40 PM David Shaw <shawpbx@gmail.com> wrote:

How do you get off this list. I mean WOW. One would think they are watching CNN (HamVoIP) on one TV and Fox (AllStar) on the other.

-- Thanks, David

On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 5:16 PM cnovey <cnovey@gmail.com> wrote:

...

I agree. I stopped using HamVoIP when I learned it uses open source code and is closed. Not cool. Not legal. KK6QMS

-----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users <app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org> On Behalf Of Michael Wolthuis Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 12:58 PM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] docs.allstarlink.org

David, I think the community is looking to you to honor the other side of this as well. Yet you make no mention of releasing code improvements, code changes, source in general. I agree this is the major sticking point for myself as well as someone who helps on these projects. I am bringing in good friends to also help code and work on app_rpt and everyone's work deserves recognition through the use of common repo. I mean, why not just branch it and make a HamVoip branch and be done with all this? Just be the bigger man and put your wonderful code out there for others to grow upon.

We can then start working towards a common goal together through unity! We can put this past behind us.

Mike Kb8zgl

On 10/24/18, 3:48 PM, "App_rpt-users on behalf of David McGough" < app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org on behalf of kb4fxc@inttek.net> wrote:

Tim,

Agreed. And, well stated. I great plan would be to have full DNS integration completed by Christmas 2018. I think this is realistic goal, if we work together and make it happen.

73, David KB4FXC

On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Tim Sawyer wrote:

> I would very much like the name calling and accusations to stop. In an > effort to calm things down I would like to mention an item of the parties > working together. > > As David mentioned, a board member (me) gave nodelist access to HamVoIP for > use in their DNS lookup system. In return David promised to deliver source > code to enable non-HamVoIP nodes access to the DNS system. When that's > complete we all will have a better AllStar as a result of working > together. > > Lets quit ripping into each other and focus on areas of common interest. > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 12:10 AM David McGough <kb4fxc@inttek.net> wrote: > > > > > Bryan, > > > > LMAO. Well, seeing as 12.17.28.0/23 has been under my control since > > 2004, > > yeah I think I'll claim it. > > > > As for the 12.17.29.168 IP address, that is assigned to a VPS at my CoLo. > > > > Yep, it was used for the hamvoip.org DNS lookup system. IT HAS ALSO BEEN > > DOWN SINCE HURRICANE FLORENCE, ABOUT 09/14/2018---over a month ago! > > > > As for "TESTING," all that system EVER did was retrieve a copy of the > > published nodelist file once about every 30 seconds from the DNS PUBLISHED > > AllStarLink registration system. The was for use with the HamVoIP DNS > > lookup system. I was officially granted access to do this by a member of > > the AllStarLink, Inc., board. > > > > So, unless you've got anything else (which you don't!), crawl back under > > your rock. > > > > > > 73, David KB4FXC > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Bryan Fields wrote: > > > > > On 10/24/18 2:09 AM, David McGough wrote: > > > > Bryan, > > > > > > > > I'm calling you out on this BULLSH*T. > > > > > > You can say Bullshit here, we don't find it necessary to censor people. > > > > > > Only people lacking in reason and critical thinking skills find > > censorship > > > necessary. > > > > > > > WHAT SPECIFIC ADDRESSES ARE THESE "TESTS" COMING FROM??? > > > > > > > > THEY ARE NOT COMING FROM ANY OF MY SUBNETS! > > > > > > The first rule of arguing, if you lack a superior argument, simply be > > louder. > > > > > > While technically true, you don't own the subnet listed. It's been > > SWIP'd to > > > you be ATT. Ipso facto, it's under your control. > > > > > > NetRange: 12.17.28.0 - 12.17.29.255 > > > CIDR: 12.17.28.0/23 > > > NetName: INTERNET61-28 > > > NetHandle: NET-12-17-28-0-1 > > > Parent: ATT (NET-12-0-0-0-1) > > > NetType: Reassigned > > > OriginAS: > > > Organization: INTERNET TECHNOLOGIES INC. ACC (ITIA-1) > > > RegDate: 2004-06-17 > > > Updated: 2004-06-17 > > > Ref: https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/12.17.28.0 > > > > > > OrgTechHandle: DMC131-ARIN > > > OrgTechName: Mcgough, Dave > > > OrgTechPhone: +1-910-792-1786 > > > OrgTechEmail: jdmcgough@inttek.net > > > OrgTechRef: https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/DMC131-ARIN > > > > > > 12.17.29.168 is one such IP, and it's got a PTR of ns.nodes.hamvoip.org. > > Yea, > > > I must be lying, as criminals never lie. > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > App_rpt-users mailing list > > App_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org > > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > > the list detailing the problem. > > > > >

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