I'm very well aware the next lines of this message could be a very time consuming project. I think the ability for something along the lines to sort ASL nodes, separated by, at least, Country and State/Province would possibly encourage more activity among nodes connected to repeaters that do not see a lot of local activity for whatever reason. Trying to find a ASL node in state like GA, searching the stats page for "GA" results in many matches with wherever "GA" is found. Given the nature of a community updated site like repeater-book, which is awesome, does not have all open repeaters with ASL. Echostink and IRLP have this capability. During our weekly ASL TechNet, the available search options on stats.allstarlink.org, gets brought up. Perhaps, just a few mods can be made to the Allstar Server config page, where City, State/Province, Country are separate entry dialog boxes, and select boxes for "testing" or "Portable". If one or the other select box is checked for "Testing" or "Portable", location info is not required and portable/test ASL nodes could have a separate "location" category of their own. Which by the way, this category could be at the bottom of the stats page, as most portable nodes, when used on cellular networks, do not allow incoming connections, anyhow. The top of the stats page can use the arrow-sort type 'buttons' to select sort display results, next to the column name. This may enable sorting by frequency, country, state, city, callsign, first heard, or node number. This kind of thing, as stated, will take time. That said, reasonable refining ideas should be made by the group, and perhaps volunteers for coding to make it work, and on the present stats page, a link to the developmental stats page. I cannot tell you the first thing about coding, but I can offer a public IP and dev. server space at a datacenter I work in. Obviously, the implementation is ultimately up to the powers-that-be, but it sure would be nice to have some 'sort' of better sorting. Especially for travelers looking for ASL nodes in areas they are transiting through or visiting. ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ
I have given some thought to this before and suggest the following: 1) Take all ASL sites that did not provided Lat Lon and put them at 0 - 0 ... or in the middle an ocean 2A) Somewhere there has to be a database to convert Lat Lon to a city and state name. Use this to populate City and State. This will allow you to look at ASL Nodes in a City or State. 2B) The formula to obtain distance between two sets of Lat Lons is pretty simple. You could use those results to find ASL nodes within X miles of some other node. 3) If 2A and/or 2B is implemented bolster assistance in setting Lat Lon information when obtaining a new ASL node number. 73, ...STeve - KF5VH On 9/24/2017 12:12 AM, Benjamin Naber wrote:
I'm very well aware the next lines of this message could be a very time consuming project.
I think the ability for something along the lines to sort ASL nodes, separated by, at least, Country and State/Province would possibly encourage more activity among nodes connected to repeaters that do not see a lot of local activity for whatever reason. Trying to find a ASL node in state like GA, searching the stats page for "GA" results in many matches with wherever "GA" is found. Given the nature of a community updated site like repeater-book, which is awesome, does not have all open repeaters with ASL.
Echostink and IRLP have this capability. During our weekly ASL TechNet, the available search options on stats.allstarlink.org, gets brought up.
Perhaps, just a few mods can be made to the Allstar Server config page, where City, State/Province, Country are separate entry dialog boxes, and select boxes for "testing" or "Portable". If one or the other select box is checked for "Testing" or "Portable", location info is not required and portable/test ASL nodes could have a separate "location" category of their own. Which by the way, this category could be at the bottom of the stats page, as most portable nodes, when used on cellular networks, do not allow incoming connections, anyhow.
The top of the stats page can use the arrow-sort type 'buttons' to select sort display results, next to the column name. This may enable sorting by frequency, country, state, city, callsign, first heard, or node number.
This kind of thing, as stated, will take time. That said, reasonable refining ideas should be made by the group, and perhaps volunteers for coding to make it work, and on the present stats page, a link to the developmental stats page.
I cannot tell you the first thing about coding, but I can offer a public IP and dev. server space at a datacenter I work in.
Obviously, the implementation is ultimately up to the powers-that-be, but it sure would be nice to have some 'sort' of better sorting. Especially for travelers looking for ASL nodes in areas they are transiting through or visiting.
~Benjamin, KB9LFZ
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There is some work being done in that area and more. I'm rebuilding the AllStar Portal, slowly. This node list https://allstar.aargdmr.net/nodelist/ has a filter box in the upper right. It gives some of the functionality you're looking for. Login is not required to see the node list. You may login just to test the feature but it won't let you do much as there is not much there yet. The database is a copy of the actual current database and it might be months old or only seconds old, depends on when I've worked on it last. You're welcome to bang on it and provide feedback. I hope to have time in coming weeks for further development. On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 10:12 PM, Benjamin Naber <Benjamin@project23d.com> wrote:
I'm very well aware the next lines of this message could be a very time consuming project.
I think the ability for something along the lines to sort ASL nodes, separated by, at least, Country and State/Province would possibly encourage more activity among nodes connected to repeaters that do not see a lot of local activity for whatever reason. Trying to find a ASL node in state like GA, searching the stats page for "GA" results in many matches with wherever "GA" is found. Given the nature of a community updated site like repeater-book, which is awesome, does not have all open repeaters with ASL.
Echostink and IRLP have this capability. During our weekly ASL TechNet, the available search options on stats.allstarlink.org, gets brought up.
Perhaps, just a few mods can be made to the Allstar Server config page, where City, State/Province, Country are separate entry dialog boxes, and select boxes for "testing" or "Portable". If one or the other select box is checked for "Testing" or "Portable", location info is not required and portable/test ASL nodes could have a separate "location" category of their own. Which by the way, this category could be at the bottom of the stats page, as most portable nodes, when used on cellular networks, do not allow incoming connections, anyhow.
The top of the stats page can use the arrow-sort type 'buttons' to select sort display results, next to the column name. This may enable sorting by frequency, country, state, city, callsign, first heard, or node number.
This kind of thing, as stated, will take time. That said, reasonable refining ideas should be made by the group, and perhaps volunteers for coding to make it work, and on the present stats page, a link to the developmental stats page.
I cannot tell you the first thing about coding, but I can offer a public IP and dev. server space at a datacenter I work in.
Obviously, the implementation is ultimately up to the powers-that-be, but it sure would be nice to have some 'sort' of better sorting. Especially for travelers looking for ASL nodes in areas they are transiting through or visiting.
~Benjamin, KB9LFZ
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On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 8:27 AM, Tim Sawyer <tisawyer@gmail.com> wrote:
There is some work being done in that area and more. I'm rebuilding the AllStar Portal, slowly. This node list https://allstar.aargdmr.net/nodelist/ has a filter box in the upper right. It gives some of the functionality you're looking for.
Login is not required to see the node list. You may login just to test the feature but it won't let you do much as there is not much there yet. The database is a copy of the actual current database and it might be months old or only seconds old, depends on when I've worked on it last.
You're welcome to bang on it and provide feedback. I hope to have time in coming weeks for further development.
Have you considered open sourcing this project? That would allow it to progress faster than you could do on your own. Or as a half measure, publish an API so that independent frontends could be developed. I took a look at the unofficial API you are using here. Would it be possible to add the lat and lon fields to the response? This would allow mapping the results in the client. Tom KD7LXL
What "unofficial API" are you referring to. There is none I'm aware of. Some sort of web service could easily be developed... at least to pull data, there is one fort Allmon but no lat/lon there. I would like to open sourcing the project but need to think about how without creating a security risk. On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Tom Hayward <tom@tomh.us> wrote:
On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 8:27 AM, Tim Sawyer <tisawyer@gmail.com> wrote:
There is some work being done in that area and more. I'm rebuilding the AllStar Portal, slowly. This node list https://allstar.aargdmr.net/ nodelist/ has a filter box in the upper right. It gives some of the functionality you're looking for.
Login is not required to see the node list. You may login just to test the feature but it won't let you do much as there is not much there yet. The database is a copy of the actual current database and it might be months old or only seconds old, depends on when I've worked on it last.
You're welcome to bang on it and provide feedback. I hope to have time in coming weeks for further development.
Have you considered open sourcing this project? That would allow it to progress faster than you could do on your own.
Or as a half measure, publish an API so that independent frontends could be developed. I took a look at the unofficial API you are using here. Would it be possible to add the lat and lon fields to the response? This would allow mapping the results in the client.
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On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Tim Sawyer <tisawyer@gmail.com> wrote:
What "unofficial API" are you referring to. There is none I'm aware of.
This is the backend your page is hitting: Request URL:https://allstar.aargdmr.net/nodelist/nodelist_server.php Request Method:POST You could do quite a bit with this data in terms of frontend features, but what I was hoping was that lat/lon could be added so that this data could be mapped. Tom KD7LXL
Oh yes, that's the backend that handles ajax requests for the nodes list. What you are asking for would do something very similar. I got ya! What format would you expect the data? Do you grep json? On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Tom Hayward <tom@tomh.us> wrote:
On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Tim Sawyer <tisawyer@gmail.com> wrote:
What "unofficial API" are you referring to. There is none I'm aware of.
This is the backend your page is hitting: Request URL:https://allstar.aargdmr.net/nodelist/nodelist_server.php Request Method:POST
You could do quite a bit with this data in terms of frontend features, but what I was hoping was that lat/lon could be added so that this data could be mapped.
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Please unsubscribe dbecar@charter.net -----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Tom Hayward Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 12:03 PM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] stats.allstarlink.org On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Tim Sawyer <tisawyer@gmail.com> wrote:
What "unofficial API" are you referring to. There is none I'm aware of.
This is the backend your page is hitting: Request URL:https://allstar.aargdmr.net/nodelist/nodelist_server.php Request Method:POST You could do quite a bit with this data in terms of frontend features, but what I was hoping was that lat/lon could be added so that this data could be mapped. Tom KD7LXL _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem.
You can unsubscribe yourself by going here: http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users On 9/24/17, 2:20 PM, "App_rpt-users on behalf of Becar Family" <app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org on behalf of Dbecar@charter.net> wrote: Please unsubscribe dbecar@charter.net -----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Tom Hayward Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 12:03 PM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] stats.allstarlink.org On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Tim Sawyer <tisawyer@gmail.com> wrote: > What "unofficial API" are you referring to. There is none I'm aware of. This is the backend your page is hitting: Request URL:https://allstar.aargdmr.net/nodelist/nodelist_server.php Request Method:POST You could do quite a bit with this data in terms of frontend features, but what I was hoping was that lat/lon could be added so that this data could be mapped. Tom KD7LXL _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem.
Tom: remember that lat/lon has been and is still purely voluntary and may not even be close to being accurate to any degree! Tom: I do like it they way it is turning out. I think the option to select to see only online nodes, and then sort from there would be great. ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ On Sun, 2017-09-24 at 12:03 -0700, Tom Hayward wrote:
On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Tim Sawyer <tisawyer@gmail.com> wrote:
What "unofficial API" are you referring to. There is none I'm aware of.
This is the backend your page is hitting: Request URL:https://allstar.aargdmr.net/nodelist/nodelist_server.php Request Method:POST
You could do quite a bit with this data in terms of frontend features, but what I was hoping was that lat/lon could be added so that this data could be mapped.
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Benjamin, Even though you got my name wrong I still like your comment and suggestion. Thank you. I probably will add a filter for online. 73, Tim not Tom Sawyer WD6AWP On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 6:17 AM, Benjamin Naber <Benjamin@project23d.com> wrote:
Tom: remember that lat/lon has been and is still purely voluntary and may not even be close to being accurate to any degree!
Tom: I do like it they way it is turning out. I think the option to select to see only online nodes, and then sort from there would be great.
~Benjamin, KB9LFZ
On Sun, 2017-09-24 at 12:03 -0700, Tom Hayward wrote:
On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Tim Sawyer <tisawyer@gmail.com> wrote:
What "unofficial API" are you referring to. There is none I'm aware of.
This is the backend your page is hitting: Request URL:https://allstar.aargdmr.net/nodelist/nodelist_server.php Request Method:POST
You could do quite a bit with this data in terms of frontend features, but what I was hoping was that lat/lon could be added so that this data could be mapped.
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