Re: [App_rpt-users] OFF-LIST Looks like I can't post no more on a ARM mailing list.
I'm taking this back on list. It's an important enough response to have it here. You may ignore this thread if you wish. On 7/9/17 1:21 PM, David McGough wrote:
Neil,
I have taken these comments off list.
At this point you are taking a childish argument to a criminal level, claiming a "back door" into the hamvoip distro and that statement is absolutely a LIE.
With these statements you are committing criminal libel. Whether you you it or not, I am an Internet Business owner and I build custom routers for several fortune 1000 Companies and have thousands installed across 80+ Countries. Your comments are tarnishing to my reputation. I seriously recommend that you either promptly come up with proof to back up your statement or retract it.
A person with such contempt for the law should not be lecturing others about it. I further fail to see why I am copied on this, are you threatening legal action? Release the source, you have no other option. As someone building routers, you should be familiar with the finer points of the GPL. I have to say, as someone who also has a day job with a company who builds routers, I've never heard of Internet Technologies. 73's -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net
send the email chain with all the insults and legal threats, their public refusal to release the source, and all correspondence to the Open Source Foundation, whose GPL the source was originally licensed under. Jim had an opinion about people like that...which is why he fought to keep it open source. That's what their lawyers' job is; you aren't going to fight their massive self-reverential egos over there. (and I really don't care whether they ban me for telling it like I see it) -- Bryan Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this message.
On Jul 9, 2017, at 13:35, Bryan Fields <Bryan@bryanfields.net> wrote:
I'm taking this back on list. It's an important enough response to have it here. You may ignore this thread if you wish.
On 7/9/17 1:21 PM, David McGough wrote:
Neil,
I have taken these comments off list.
At this point you are taking a childish argument to a criminal level, claiming a "back door" into the hamvoip distro and that statement is absolutely a LIE.
With these statements you are committing criminal libel. Whether you you it or not, I am an Internet Business owner and I build custom routers for several fortune 1000 Companies and have thousands installed across 80+ Countries. Your comments are tarnishing to my reputation. I seriously recommend that you either promptly come up with proof to back up your statement or retract it.
A person with such contempt for the law should not be lecturing others about it. I further fail to see why I am copied on this, are you threatening legal action?
Release the source, you have no other option.
As someone building routers, you should be familiar with the finer points of the GPL. I have to say, as someone who also has a day job with a company who builds routers, I've never heard of Internet Technologies.
73's -- Bryan Fields
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Who's Source code? Just asking. David KE6UPI -- Thanks, David "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one." Thomas Jefferson On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Bryan D. Boyle <bdboyle@bdboyle.com> wrote:
send the email chain with all the insults and legal threats, their public refusal to release the source, and all correspondence to the Open Source Foundation, whose GPL the source was originally licensed under. Jim had an opinion about people like that...which is why he fought to keep it open source.
That's what their lawyers' job is; you aren't going to fight their massive self-reverential egos over there.
(and I really don't care whether they ban me for telling it like I see it) -- Bryan Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this message.
On Jul 9, 2017, at 13:35, Bryan Fields <Bryan@bryanfields.net> wrote:
I'm taking this back on list. It's an important enough response to have it here. You may ignore this thread if you wish.
On 7/9/17 1:21 PM, David McGough wrote:
Neil,
I have taken these comments off list.
At this point you are taking a childish argument to a criminal level,
claiming a "back door" into the hamvoip distro and that statement is
absolutely a LIE.
With these statements you are committing criminal libel. Whether you you
it or not, I am an Internet Business owner and I build custom routers for
several fortune 1000 Companies and have thousands installed across 80+
Countries. Your comments are tarnishing to my reputation. I seriously
recommend that you either promptly come up with proof to back up your
statement or retract it.
A person with such contempt for the law should not be lecturing others about it. I further fail to see why I am copied on this, are you threatening legal action?
Release the source, you have no other option.
As someone building routers, you should be familiar with the finer points of the GPL. I have to say, as someone who also has a day job with a company who builds routers, I've never heard of Internet Technologies.
73's -- Bryan Fields
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The source code for Asterisk, DAHDI, app_rpt, and probably others... On Jul 9, 2017 2:59 PM, "David Shaw" <shawpbx@gmail.com> wrote:
Who's Source code? Just asking.
David KE6UPI
-- Thanks, David
"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one." Thomas Jefferson
On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Bryan D. Boyle <bdboyle@bdboyle.com> wrote:
send the email chain with all the insults and legal threats, their public refusal to release the source, and all correspondence to the Open Source Foundation, whose GPL the source was originally licensed under. Jim had an opinion about people like that...which is why he fought to keep it open source.
That's what their lawyers' job is; you aren't going to fight their massive self-reverential egos over there.
(and I really don't care whether they ban me for telling it like I see it) -- Bryan Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this message.
On Jul 9, 2017, at 13:35, Bryan Fields <Bryan@bryanfields.net> wrote:
I'm taking this back on list. It's an important enough response to have it here. You may ignore this thread if you wish.
On 7/9/17 1:21 PM, David McGough wrote:
Neil,
I have taken these comments off list.
At this point you are taking a childish argument to a criminal level,
claiming a "back door" into the hamvoip distro and that statement is
absolutely a LIE.
With these statements you are committing criminal libel. Whether you you
it or not, I am an Internet Business owner and I build custom routers for
several fortune 1000 Companies and have thousands installed across 80+
Countries. Your comments are tarnishing to my reputation. I seriously
recommend that you either promptly come up with proof to back up your
statement or retract it.
A person with such contempt for the law should not be lecturing others about it. I further fail to see why I am copied on this, are you threatening legal action?
Release the source, you have no other option.
As someone building routers, you should be familiar with the finer points of the GPL. I have to say, as someone who also has a day job with a company who builds routers, I've never heard of Internet Technologies.
73's -- Bryan Fields
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On 7/9/17 3:59 PM, David Shaw wrote:
Who's Source code? Just asking.
Under the GPLv2 if you release/distribute code in binary you need to release the source code to build that binary. So code in question would be what ever it takes to build that binary. Now there are end cases and nuance here, but generally (and for app_rpt.c/asterisk/all-star) you need to release the source. Bruce Perens K6BP has written extensively on what this means and how to comply for many companies. 73's -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net
Add me to that list ... Oh I still get it... But since I can't post, I can't unsubscribe... And, yes, Doug is an ass. On Jul 9, 2017 12:35, "Bryan Fields" <Bryan@bryanfields.net> wrote:
I'm taking this back on list. It's an important enough response to have it here. You may ignore this thread if you wish.
On 7/9/17 1:21 PM, David McGough wrote:
Neil,
I have taken these comments off list.
At this point you are taking a childish argument to a criminal level, claiming a "back door" into the hamvoip distro and that statement is absolutely a LIE.
With these statements you are committing criminal libel. Whether you you it or not, I am an Internet Business owner and I build custom routers for several fortune 1000 Companies and have thousands installed across 80+ Countries. Your comments are tarnishing to my reputation. I seriously recommend that you either promptly come up with proof to back up your statement or retract it.
A person with such contempt for the law should not be lecturing others about it. I further fail to see why I am copied on this, are you threatening legal action?
Release the source, you have no other option.
As someone building routers, you should be familiar with the finer points of the GPL. I have to say, as someone who also has a day job with a company who builds routers, I've never heard of Internet Technologies.
73's -- Bryan Fields
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