Re: [App_rpt-users] Beagleboard and USB URI dongle
OK so do I have it correct? chan_simpleusb * Does not do carrier detect (via DSP noise detection) must use COR logic. * Does not do CTSCC Decode (obviously). * DTMF is handled by Zaptel so we still decode DTMF in asterisk. * encode functions are same as before? * enabling/using it is by simply specifyinfg it in rpt.conf rxchannel = SimpleUSB/usb and the presense and setup of simpleusb.conf Thanks! Steve -Steve
So does this mean you can run App_rpt & Asterisk on the WRT 54GL???? No! :-)
it only means I have an idea and was using that as an exaple on where something like the simplesb channel driver might come in handy.
Dont get me wrong, It would be great to run App_Rpt on the 54 GL. I have a number of them.
But how would you do a radio interface? I dont see any USB ports on any of my 54GLs.
There's not.
I'm playing around with the Intel D510 MB with a 32 G SSD and have 3 Allstar nodes running on the board with URIs in full duplex with DSP Squelch and PL.
I had 4 on there and it seemed ok but the load ave hit 1.2! so I took out one node and now seems ok with the 3.
Perhaps using chan_simpleUSB might clear that up.
Nice low power package but cost a few bucks~($325 CDN) but solid package and yes there is a fan in the enclosure so heat doesnt seem to be a problem.
But I would like to know about what you had in mind on the 54GL.
All that I had in mind at this point was looking into it. :-) As I have som many of them around here.
:-)
-Steve
Jon VA3RQ
On 2/15/2011 1:44 PM, Steve Gladden wrote:
Also Jim, THANK YOU! for creating this interface type.. There are many cases where I'd prefer NOT to do DSP on the PC /Board puter.
Especially when using older/smaller stuff.
Such as a WRT54GL
-Steve
chan_simpleusb is basically a 'gutted' version of chan_usbradio. It has no DSP functionality whatsoever. It is designed for radios that provide COR and/or CTCSS detection signals, and will run FAR more efficiently allowing for use on MUCH slower CPUs.
JIM WB6NIL
From: yokshs@sbcglobal.net To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 09:05:51 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Beagleboard and USB URI dongle
I'm curious about chan_simpleusb. Can it be used on a slower PC to improve performance?
I'm running 2 CM108 fobs here on a P3/866 MHz with 512MB ram. This was my old EchoIRLP node PC, and it seems to work ok for Allstar, but I realize that it's below the recommended CPU speed for a USB fob node.
My node radios have PL encode/decode in hardware, etc, so would I lose any functionality by switching to chan_simpleusb?
Thanks.73
Kyle K0KN --- Original Message ---Yes, it works quite beautifuly with the URI, in fact it will support 2 of them *BUT* only with chan_simpleusb. The CPU does not have the horsepower to do the DSP routines used in chan_usbradio.
Why dont you wait for the LOX board to become available in production? It wont be long.
JIM WB6NIL
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yep, that is correct JIM
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 16:42:23 -0500 From: steve@michiganbroadband.com To: steve@michiganbroadband.com CC: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Beagleboard and USB URI dongle
OK so do I have it correct?
chan_simpleusb
* Does not do carrier detect (via DSP noise detection) must use COR logic. * Does not do CTSCC Decode (obviously). * DTMF is handled by Zaptel so we still decode DTMF in asterisk.
* encode functions are same as before?
* enabling/using it is by simply specifyinfg it in rpt.conf
rxchannel = SimpleUSB/usb
and the presense and setup of simpleusb.conf
Thanks! Steve
-Steve
So does this mean you can run App_rpt & Asterisk on the WRT 54GL???? No! :-)
it only means I have an idea and was using that as an exaple on where something like the simplesb channel driver might come in handy.
Dont get me wrong, It would be great to run App_Rpt on the 54 GL. I have a number of them.
But how would you do a radio interface? I dont see any USB ports on any of my 54GLs.
There's not.
I'm playing around with the Intel D510 MB with a 32 G SSD and have 3 Allstar nodes running on the board with URIs in full duplex with DSP Squelch and PL.
I had 4 on there and it seemed ok but the load ave hit 1.2! so I took out one node and now seems ok with the 3.
Perhaps using chan_simpleUSB might clear that up.
Nice low power package but cost a few bucks~($325 CDN) but solid package and yes there is a fan in the enclosure so heat doesnt seem to be a problem.
But I would like to know about what you had in mind on the 54GL.
All that I had in mind at this point was looking into it. :-) As I have som many of them around here.
:-)
-Steve
Jon VA3RQ
On 2/15/2011 1:44 PM, Steve Gladden wrote:
Also Jim, THANK YOU! for creating this interface type.. There are many cases where I'd prefer NOT to do DSP on the PC /Board puter.
Especially when using older/smaller stuff.
Such as a WRT54GL
-Steve
chan_simpleusb is basically a 'gutted' version of chan_usbradio. It has no DSP functionality whatsoever. It is designed for radios that provide COR and/or CTCSS detection signals, and will run FAR more efficiently allowing for use on MUCH slower CPUs.
JIM WB6NIL
From: yokshs@sbcglobal.net To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 09:05:51 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Beagleboard and USB URI dongle
I'm curious about chan_simpleusb. Can it be used on a slower PC to improve performance?
I'm running 2 CM108 fobs here on a P3/866 MHz with 512MB ram. This was my old EchoIRLP node PC, and it seems to work ok for Allstar, but I realize that it's below the recommended CPU speed for a USB fob node.
My node radios have PL encode/decode in hardware, etc, so would I lose any functionality by switching to chan_simpleusb?
Thanks.73
Kyle K0KN --- Original Message ---Yes, it works quite beautifuly with the URI, in fact it will support 2 of them *BUT* only with chan_simpleusb. The CPU does not have the horsepower to do the DSP routines used in chan_usbradio.
Why dont you wait for the LOX board to become available in production? It wont be long.
JIM WB6NIL
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Thanks Jim, I meant CTCSS (haha) -and does the Parallel port stuff work just fine with it? (simpleusb) Someone indicated earlier that they thought it might not. I'll be trying it in a few hours. Steve
yep, that is correct
JIM
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 16:42:23 -0500 From: steve@michiganbroadband.com To: steve@michiganbroadband.com CC: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Beagleboard and USB URI dongle
OK so do I have it correct?
chan_simpleusb
* Does not do carrier detect (via DSP noise detection) must use COR logic. * Does not do CTSCC Decode (obviously). * DTMF is handled by Zaptel so we still decode DTMF in asterisk.
* encode functions are same as before?
* enabling/using it is by simply specifyinfg it in rpt.conf
rxchannel = SimpleUSB/usb
and the presense and setup of simpleusb.conf
Thanks! Steve
-Steve
So does this mean you can run App_rpt & Asterisk on the WRT 54GL???? No! :-)
it only means I have an idea and was using that as an exaple on where something like the simplesb channel driver might come in handy.
Dont get me wrong, It would be great to run App_Rpt on the 54 GL. I
have
a number of them.
But how would you do a radio interface? I dont see any USB ports on any of my 54GLs.
There's not.
I'm playing around with the Intel D510 MB with a 32 G SSD and have 3 Allstar nodes running on the board with URIs in full duplex with DSP Squelch and PL.
I had 4 on there and it seemed ok but the load ave hit 1.2! so I took out one node and now seems ok with the 3.
Perhaps using chan_simpleUSB might clear that up.
Nice low power package but cost a few bucks~($325 CDN) but solid
package
and yes there is a fan in the enclosure so heat doesnt seem to be a problem.
But I would like to know about what you had in mind on the 54GL.
All that I had in mind at this point was looking into it. :-) As I have som many of them around here.
:-)
-Steve
Jon VA3RQ
On 2/15/2011 1:44 PM, Steve Gladden wrote:
Also Jim, THANK YOU! for creating this interface type.. There are many cases where I'd prefer NOT to do DSP on the PC /Board puter.
Especially when using older/smaller stuff.
Such as a WRT54GL
-Steve
chan_simpleusb is basically a 'gutted' version of chan_usbradio. It has no DSP functionality whatsoever. It is designed for radios that provide COR and/or CTCSS detection signals, and will run FAR more efficiently allowing for use on MUCH slower CPUs.
JIM WB6NIL
From: yokshs@sbcglobal.net To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 09:05:51 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Beagleboard and USB URI dongle
I'm curious about chan_simpleusb. Can it be used on a slower PC to improve performance?
I'm running 2 CM108 fobs here on a P3/866 MHz with 512MB ram. This
was
my old EchoIRLP node PC, and it seems to work ok for Allstar, but I realize that it's below the recommended CPU speed for a USB fob node.
My node radios have PL encode/decode in hardware, etc, so would I lose any functionality by switching to chan_simpleusb?
Thanks.73
Kyle K0KN --- Original Message ---Yes, it works quite beautifuly with the URI, in fact it will support 2 of them *BUT* only with chan_simpleusb. The CPU does not have the horsepower to do the DSP routines used in chan_usbradio.
Why dont you wait for the LOX board to become available in production? It wont be long.
JIM WB6NIL
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the parallel port stuff has not been ported to it as of yet
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 22:44:41 -0500 Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Beagleboard and USB URI dongle From: steve@michiganbroadband.com To: telesistant@hotmail.com CC: steve@michiganbroadband.com; app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
Thanks Jim,
I meant CTCSS (haha)
-and does the Parallel port stuff work just fine with it? (simpleusb)
Someone indicated earlier that they thought it might not.
I'll be trying it in a few hours.
Steve
yep, that is correct
JIM
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 16:42:23 -0500 From: steve@michiganbroadband.com To: steve@michiganbroadband.com CC: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Beagleboard and USB URI dongle
OK so do I have it correct?
chan_simpleusb
* Does not do carrier detect (via DSP noise detection) must use COR logic. * Does not do CTSCC Decode (obviously). * DTMF is handled by Zaptel so we still decode DTMF in asterisk.
* encode functions are same as before?
* enabling/using it is by simply specifyinfg it in rpt.conf
rxchannel = SimpleUSB/usb
and the presense and setup of simpleusb.conf
Thanks! Steve
-Steve
So does this mean you can run App_rpt & Asterisk on the WRT 54GL???? No! :-)
it only means I have an idea and was using that as an exaple on where something like the simplesb channel driver might come in handy.
Dont get me wrong, It would be great to run App_Rpt on the 54 GL. I
have
a number of them.
But how would you do a radio interface? I dont see any USB ports on any of my 54GLs.
There's not.
I'm playing around with the Intel D510 MB with a 32 G SSD and have 3 Allstar nodes running on the board with URIs in full duplex with DSP Squelch and PL.
I had 4 on there and it seemed ok but the load ave hit 1.2! so I took out one node and now seems ok with the 3.
Perhaps using chan_simpleUSB might clear that up.
Nice low power package but cost a few bucks~($325 CDN) but solid
package
and yes there is a fan in the enclosure so heat doesnt seem to be a problem.
But I would like to know about what you had in mind on the 54GL.
All that I had in mind at this point was looking into it. :-) As I have som many of them around here.
:-)
-Steve
Jon VA3RQ
On 2/15/2011 1:44 PM, Steve Gladden wrote:
Also Jim, THANK YOU! for creating this interface type.. There are many cases where I'd prefer NOT to do DSP on the PC /Board puter.
Especially when using older/smaller stuff.
Such as a WRT54GL
-Steve
chan_simpleusb is basically a 'gutted' version of chan_usbradio. It has no DSP functionality whatsoever. It is designed for radios that provide COR and/or CTCSS detection signals, and will run FAR more efficiently allowing for use on MUCH slower CPUs.
JIM WB6NIL
From: yokshs@sbcglobal.net To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 09:05:51 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Beagleboard and USB URI dongle
I'm curious about chan_simpleusb. Can it be used on a slower PC to improve performance?
I'm running 2 CM108 fobs here on a P3/866 MHz with 512MB ram. This
was
my old EchoIRLP node PC, and it seems to work ok for Allstar, but I realize that it's below the recommended CPU speed for a USB fob node.
My node radios have PL encode/decode in hardware, etc, so would I lose any functionality by switching to chan_simpleusb?
Thanks.73
Kyle K0KN --- Original Message ---Yes, it works quite beautifuly with the URI, in fact it will support 2 of them *BUT* only with chan_simpleusb. The CPU does not have the horsepower to do the DSP routines used in chan_usbradio.
Why dont you wait for the LOX board to become available in production? It wont be long.
JIM WB6NIL
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Yeah, from: http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/177 Chan_usbradio (and soon chan_simpleusb) supports configuration of the GPIO pins in the following manner- Cool! I'll definitely use it. Thanks! Steve
the parallel port stuff has not been ported to it as of yet
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 22:44:41 -0500 Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Beagleboard and USB URI dongle From: steve@michiganbroadband.com To: telesistant@hotmail.com CC: steve@michiganbroadband.com; app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
Thanks Jim,
I meant CTCSS (haha)
-and does the Parallel port stuff work just fine with it? (simpleusb)
Someone indicated earlier that they thought it might not.
I'll be trying it in a few hours.
Steve
yep, that is correct
JIM
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 16:42:23 -0500 From: steve@michiganbroadband.com To: steve@michiganbroadband.com CC: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Beagleboard and USB URI dongle
OK so do I have it correct?
chan_simpleusb
* Does not do carrier detect (via DSP noise detection) must use COR logic. * Does not do CTSCC Decode (obviously). * DTMF is handled by Zaptel so we still decode DTMF in asterisk.
* encode functions are same as before?
* enabling/using it is by simply specifyinfg it in rpt.conf
rxchannel = SimpleUSB/usb
and the presense and setup of simpleusb.conf
Thanks! Steve
-Steve
So does this mean you can run App_rpt & Asterisk on the WRT
54GL????
No! :-)
it only means I have an idea and was using that as an exaple on where something like the simplesb channel driver might come in handy.
Dont get me wrong, It would be great to run App_Rpt on the 54 GL.
I have
a number of them.
But how would you do a radio interface? I dont see any USB ports on any of my 54GLs.
There's not.
I'm playing around with the Intel D510 MB with a 32 G SSD and have
3
Allstar nodes running on the board with URIs in full duplex with DSP Squelch and PL.
I had 4 on there and it seemed ok but the load ave hit 1.2! so I took out one node and now seems ok with the 3.
Perhaps using chan_simpleUSB might clear that up.
Nice low power package but cost a few bucks~($325 CDN) but solid package and yes there is a fan in the enclosure so heat doesnt seem to be a problem.
But I would like to know about what you had in mind on the 54GL.
All that I had in mind at this point was looking into it. :-) As I have som many of them around here.
:-)
-Steve
Jon VA3RQ
On 2/15/2011 1:44 PM, Steve Gladden wrote:
Also Jim, THANK YOU! for creating this interface type.. There are many cases where I'd prefer NOT to do DSP on the PC
/Board
puter.
Especially when using older/smaller stuff.
Such as a WRT54GL
-Steve
chan_simpleusb is basically a 'gutted' version of chan_usbradio. It has no DSP functionality whatsoever. It is designed for radios that provide COR and/or CTCSS detection signals, and will run FAR more efficiently allowing for use on MUCH slower CPUs.
JIM WB6NIL
From: yokshs@sbcglobal.net To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 09:05:51 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Beagleboard and USB URI dongle
I'm curious about chan_simpleusb. Can it be used on a slower PC to improve performance?
I'm running 2 CM108 fobs here on a P3/866 MHz with 512MB ram. This was my old EchoIRLP node PC, and it seems to work ok for Allstar, but I realize that it's below the recommended CPU speed for a USB fob node.
My node radios have PL encode/decode in hardware, etc, so would I lose any functionality by switching to chan_simpleusb?
Thanks.73
Kyle K0KN --- Original Message ---Yes, it works quite beautifuly with the URI, in fact it will support 2 of them *BUT* only with chan_simpleusb. The CPU does not have the horsepower to do the DSP routines used in chan_usbradio.
Why dont you wait for the LOX board to become available in production? It wont be long.
JIM WB6NIL
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Howdy! I know it was mentioned that chan_simpleusb still decodes DTMF via Zap, but when using chan_simpleusb my system ignores all DTMF. I can debug and watch the keyup/down and hear the DTMF being repeated but none is captured. I can switch back to chan_usbradio and everything works fine. Is there a configuration somewhere that I'm missing? -- ______________________ Kris Kirkland ~ K5KRK ______________________
Are you feeding it de-emphasized audio? On Feb 16, 2011 11:28 AM, "Kris Kirkland" <kris@kriskirkland.com> wrote:
Howdy!
I know it was mentioned that chan_simpleusb still decodes DTMF via Zap, but when using chan_simpleusb my system ignores all DTMF. I can debug and watch the keyup/down and hear the DTMF being repeated but none is captured. I can switch back to chan_usbradio and everything works fine. Is there a configuration somewhere that I'm missing?
-- ______________________
Kris Kirkland ~ K5KRK ______________________
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On 2/16/2011 2:53 PM, Steve Passmore wrote:
Are you feeding it de-emphasized audio?
On Feb 16, 2011 11:28 AM, "Kris Kirkland" <kris@kriskirkland.com <mailto:kris@kriskirkland.com>> wrote:
Howdy!
I know it was mentioned that chan_simpleusb still decodes DTMF via Zap, but when using chan_simpleusb my system ignores all DTMF. I can debug and watch the keyup/down and hear the DTMF being repeated but none is captured. I can switch back to chan_usbradio and everything works fine. Is there a configuration somewhere that I'm missing?
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