Re: [App_rpt-users] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Culling Linux Services (ACID)
Not running ntpd here, though George Csahanin Sent from my iPad On Jul 31, 2011, at 8:44 PM, Chuck Henderson <chuck.henderson@gmail.com> wrote:
Disable NTPD and the problem happens much less often. I cron ntpdate to run once per hour to keep the time close. This way I only hear the audio glitch once per hour rather than intermittently.
On Jul 31, 2011 4:57 PM, "Steve Gladden" <steve@michiganbroadband.com> wrote:
There's a recording of it over here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqYwhtuVLDs
Steve
-----Original Message----- From: app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of George Csahanin Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 2:16 PM To: John Heron Cc: app_rpt mailing list Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] [SPAM] Re: Culling Linux Services (ACID)
I think I know what you mean. Shows us as a very brief, repeated disruption to PL tone, drops your mobile/ht decoder, maybe for time in 2 seconds, then ok for a while. t iunterrupts main audio as well, just very brief and not noticed.
Yup, every PC I tried does it. I jusst got used to it.
I wanted to get a recording of it over a year ago, but no clean way to record audio. You really get to notice it if you put your signal generator in the receiver, and modulate with something like a 1Kc tone
I've tried five computers and four USB devices, all do it.
GeorgeC W2DB
----- Original Message ----- From: "John Heron" <jh0932@gmail.com> To: "George Csahanin" <george@dyb.com> Cc: "Lu Vencl" <vencl@att.net>; "MichaelCarey" <michaelcarey@internode.on.net>; "app_rpt mailing list" <app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 12:26 PM Subject: [SPAM] Re: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID)
Any motorboating issues?
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 31, 2011, at 1:21 PM, "George Csahanin" <george@dyb.com> wrote:
So far built 3 on Intel D945GCLF2 boards, PicoPSU power supplies, both Limey off a CF and Acid off disk
Use CM108 $6.96 USB sounds FOBs. Brought PTT out of one of them, the others use printer port for PTT, and all use software squelch and ctcss decode.
GeorgeC
----- Original Message ----- From: "John Heron" <jh0932@gmail.com> To: "'Lu Vencl'" <vencl@att.net>; "'Michael Carey'" <michaelcarey@internode.on.net>; "'app_rpt mailing list'" <app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID)
It begs the question on what hardware really works 100% and what does not. I ran into this years ago running a global pactor III network and finally had to goto a acceptable hardware list as some hardware came real close to being fully compatible but would sporadically do weird things for no apparent reason... a bad thing when the box is in remote jungle locations... It boils down to who has had the least amount of issues with motherboard a vs. b and so on...
I am looking at small micro ATX form factors for example... anybody have suggestions for a inexpensive repeatable reliable solution?
-----Original Message----- From: app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Lu Vencl Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 9:44 AM To: 'Michael Carey'; 'app_rpt mailing list' Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID)
Michael, I still have not figured out what causes this issue. I have tried adding two different NEC chipset USB PCI boards and that made it much worse on my ASUS mother boards. I believe I have pretty much exhausted all options at this point. I just don't know why all 8 of my boxes 2.8 GHZ (all Asus) do this. I went to slower boxes (even down to 400 Mhz) and I don't get this issue.. Go figure. There has to be some other underlying issue where perhaps and interrupt is being messed with or some other issue. I just can't pin it down. I am working out a trade for some slower boxes in exchange for these machines as a solution for now. Sorry I wish I had a better answer. Lu KA4EPS
-----Original Message----- From: app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Michael Carey Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 7:00 AM To: app_rpt mailing list Subject: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID)
Hi Everybody,
In an effort to make node 27871 a lean, mean, fighting machine... I'm trying to keep things neat and tidy by stopping any services that have no direct impact on the operation of the node.
I'm after input on what others have done on their own AllStarLink nodes.
I have done a similar thing on my Icom G2 D-Star gateway... going through and disabling services (like bluetooth, VNC, smartcard, IPv6, etc).
On a side note, has anyone found a definitive cause for the occasional motorboating/stuttering audio when an AllStarNode transmits? I have another machine that I can use, but I would like to know what causes it and how it can be eliminated or reduced. This is the only thing that has marred an otherwise perfect experience with my AllStarLink node.
Michael. VK5ZEA
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Yep I’ve tried disabling everything possible (everything that takes an interrupt and/or cpu cycles) NTPD included. I’ve never noticed anything as such to make a significant difference… I’ve reached the conclusion: 1. USB sucks (as I’ve been told by the pros here) and it’s never going to get any better (on USB). 2. The software is still imperfect and has room to be improved (better kernel /os/usb/timer integration). When I grow up & get smarter/more experienced I’ll either agree with the pros or fix it. Steve From: George Csahanin [mailto:george@dyb.com] Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 11:17 PM To: Chuck Henderson Cc: Steve Gladden; John Heron; app_rpt mailing list Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: [App_rpt-users] [SPAM] Re: Culling Linux Services (ACID) Not running ntpd here, though George Csahanin Sent from my iPad On Jul 31, 2011, at 8:44 PM, Chuck Henderson <chuck.henderson@gmail.com<mailto:chuck.henderson@gmail.com>> wrote: Disable NTPD and the problem happens much less often. I cron ntpdate to run once per hour to keep the time close. This way I only hear the audio glitch once per hour rather than intermittently. On Jul 31, 2011 4:57 PM, "Steve Gladden" <steve@michiganbroadband.com<mailto:steve@michiganbroadband.com>> wrote:
There's a recording of it over here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqYwhtuVLDs
Steve
-----Original Message----- From: app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org<mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org> [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org<mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org>] On Behalf Of George Csahanin Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 2:16 PM To: John Heron Cc: app_rpt mailing list Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] [SPAM] Re: Culling Linux Services (ACID)
I think I know what you mean. Shows us as a very brief, repeated disruption to PL tone, drops your mobile/ht decoder, maybe for time in 2 seconds, then ok for a while. t iunterrupts main audio as well, just very brief and not noticed.
Yup, every PC I tried does it. I jusst got used to it.
I wanted to get a recording of it over a year ago, but no clean way to record audio. You really get to notice it if you put your signal generator in the receiver, and modulate with something like a 1Kc tone
I've tried five computers and four USB devices, all do it.
GeorgeC W2DB
----- Original Message ----- From: "John Heron" <jh0932@gmail.com<mailto:jh0932@gmail.com>> To: "George Csahanin" <george@dyb.com<mailto:george@dyb.com>> Cc: "Lu Vencl" <vencl@att.net<mailto:vencl@att.net>>; "MichaelCarey" <michaelcarey@internode.on.net<mailto:michaelcarey@internode.on.net>>; "app_rpt mailing list" <app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org<mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 12:26 PM Subject: [SPAM] Re: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID)
Any motorboating issues?
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 31, 2011, at 1:21 PM, "George Csahanin" <george@dyb.com<mailto:george@dyb.com>> wrote:
So far built 3 on Intel D945GCLF2 boards, PicoPSU power supplies, both Limey off a CF and Acid off disk
Use CM108 $6.96 USB sounds FOBs. Brought PTT out of one of them, the others use printer port for PTT, and all use software squelch and ctcss decode.
GeorgeC
----- Original Message ----- From: "John Heron" <jh0932@gmail.com<mailto:jh0932@gmail.com>> To: "'Lu Vencl'" <vencl@att.net<mailto:vencl@att.net>>; "'Michael Carey'" <michaelcarey@internode.on.net<mailto:michaelcarey@internode.on.net>>; "'app_rpt mailing list'" <app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org<mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID)
It begs the question on what hardware really works 100% and what does not. I ran into this years ago running a global pactor III network and finally had to goto a acceptable hardware list as some hardware came real close to being fully compatible but would sporadically do weird things for no apparent reason... a bad thing when the box is in remote jungle locations... It boils down to who has had the least amount of issues with motherboard a vs. b and so on...
I am looking at small micro ATX form factors for example... anybody have suggestions for a inexpensive repeatable reliable solution?
-----Original Message----- From: app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org<mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org> [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org<mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org>] On Behalf Of Lu Vencl Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 9:44 AM To: 'Michael Carey'; 'app_rpt mailing list' Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID)
Michael, I still have not figured out what causes this issue. I have tried adding two different NEC chipset USB PCI boards and that made it much worse on my ASUS mother boards. I believe I have pretty much exhausted all options at this point. I just don't know why all 8 of my boxes 2.8 GHZ (all Asus) do this. I went to slower boxes (even down to 400 Mhz) and I don't get this issue.. Go figure. There has to be some other underlying issue where perhaps and interrupt is being messed with or some other issue. I just can't pin it down. I am working out a trade for some slower boxes in exchange for these machines as a solution for now. Sorry I wish I had a better answer. Lu KA4EPS
-----Original Message----- From: app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org<mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org> [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org<mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org>] On Behalf Of Michael Carey Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 7:00 AM To: app_rpt mailing list Subject: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID)
Hi Everybody,
In an effort to make node 27871 a lean, mean, fighting machine... I'm trying to keep things neat and tidy by stopping any services that have no direct impact on the operation of the node.
I'm after input on what others have done on their own AllStarLink nodes.
I have done a similar thing on my Icom G2 D-Star gateway... going through and disabling services (like bluetooth, VNC, smartcard, IPv6, etc).
On a side note, has anyone found a definitive cause for the occasional motorboating/stuttering audio when an AllStarNode transmits? I have another machine that I can use, but I would like to know what causes it and how it can be eliminated or reduced. This is the only thing that has marred an otherwise perfect experience with my AllStarLink node.
Michael. VK5ZEA
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I gave my brain the day off today so please excuse if this is a recent repeat: I recall reading in the last month or so about somebody playing with a particular add-on device and it was customary for the software to set only the registers needed by the application and ignore the rest. Well, turns out that those other registers got the software all wrapped around the axle so he had to go in and explicitly set every last register in this hardware device to a particular state, then his trouble went away. Maybe there is something similar going on with these usb devices that is causing this motorboating problem? I haven't the first foggy clue about the software, just throwing out a possible approach to squashing this bug once and for all. Bote W4NUD On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Steve Gladden <steve@michiganbroadband.com
wrote:
Yep I’ve tried disabling everything possible (everything that takes an interrupt and/or cpu cycles) NTPD included.****
I’ve never noticed anything as such to make a significant difference…****
I’ve reached the conclusion:****
**1. **USB sucks (as I’ve been told by the pros here) and it’s never going to get any better (on USB).****
**2. **The software is still imperfect and has room to be improved (better kernel /os/usb/timer integration).****
** **
When I grow up & get smarter/more experienced I’ll either agree with the pros or fix it.****
** **
Steve****
** **
** **
*From:* George Csahanin [mailto:george@dyb.com] *Sent:* Sunday, July 31, 2011 11:17 PM *To:* Chuck Henderson *Cc:* Steve Gladden; John Heron; app_rpt mailing list *Subject:* Re: [SPAM] Re: [App_rpt-users] [SPAM] Re: Culling Linux Services (ACID)****
** **
Not running ntpd here, though
George Csahanin****
Sent from my iPad****
On Jul 31, 2011, at 8:44 PM, Chuck Henderson <chuck.henderson@gmail.com> wrote:****
Disable NTPD and the problem happens much less often. I cron ntpdate to run once per hour to keep the time close. This way I only hear the audio glitch once per hour rather than intermittently. ****
On Jul 31, 2011 4:57 PM, "Steve Gladden" <steve@michiganbroadband.com> wrote:
There's a recording of it over here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqYwhtuVLDs
Steve
-----Original Message----- From: app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org [mailto: app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of George Csahanin Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 2:16 PM To: John Heron Cc: app_rpt mailing list Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] [SPAM] Re: Culling Linux Services (ACID)
I think I know what you mean. Shows us as a very brief, repeated disruption to PL tone, drops your mobile/ht decoder, maybe for time in 2 seconds, then ok for a while. t iunterrupts main audio as well, just very brief and not noticed.
Yup, every PC I tried does it. I jusst got used to it.
I wanted to get a recording of it over a year ago, but no clean way to record audio. You really get to notice it if you put your signal generator in the receiver, and modulate with something like a 1Kc tone
I've tried five computers and four USB devices, all do it.
GeorgeC W2DB
----- Original Message ----- From: "John Heron" <jh0932@gmail.com> To: "George Csahanin" <george@dyb.com> Cc: "Lu Vencl" <vencl@att.net>; "MichaelCarey" <michaelcarey@internode.on.net>; "app_rpt mailing list" <app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 12:26 PM Subject: [SPAM] Re: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID)
Any motorboating issues?
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 31, 2011, at 1:21 PM, "George Csahanin" <george@dyb.com> wrote:
So far built 3 on Intel D945GCLF2 boards, PicoPSU power supplies, both Limey off a CF and Acid off disk
Use CM108 $6.96 USB sounds FOBs. Brought PTT out of one of them, the others use printer port for PTT, and all use software squelch and ctcss
decode.
GeorgeC
----- Original Message ----- From: "John Heron" <jh0932@gmail.com> To: "'Lu Vencl'" <vencl@att.net>; "'Michael Carey'" <michaelcarey@internode.on.net>; "'app_rpt mailing list'" <app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID)
It begs the question on what hardware really works 100% and what does not. I ran into this years ago running a global pactor III network and finally had to goto a acceptable hardware list as some hardware came real close to
being fully compatible but would sporadically do weird things for no apparent reason... a bad thing when the box is in remote jungle locations... It
boils down to who has had the least amount of issues with motherboard a vs. b and so on...
I am looking at small micro ATX form factors for example... anybody have suggestions for a inexpensive repeatable reliable solution?
-----Original Message----- From: app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Lu Vencl Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 9:44 AM To: 'Michael Carey'; 'app_rpt mailing list' Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID)
Michael, I still have not figured out what causes this issue. I have tried adding two different NEC chipset USB PCI boards and that made it much worse on my ASUS mother boards. I believe I have pretty much exhausted all options at this point. I just don't know why all 8 of my
boxes 2.8 GHZ (all Asus) do this. I went to slower boxes (even down to 400 Mhz) and I don't get this issue.. Go figure. There has to be some other underlying issue where perhaps and interrupt is being messed with or some other issue. I just can't pin it down. I am working out a trade for some slower boxes in exchange for these machines as a solution for now. Sorry I wish I had a better answer. Lu KA4EPS
-----Original Message----- From: app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Michael Carey Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 7:00 AM To: app_rpt mailing list Subject: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID)
Hi Everybody,
In an effort to make node 27871 a lean, mean, fighting machine... I'm trying to keep things neat and tidy by stopping any services that have no direct impact on the operation of the node.
I'm after input on what others have done on their own AllStarLink nodes.
I have done a similar thing on my Icom G2 D-Star gateway... going through and disabling services (like bluetooth, VNC, smartcard, IPv6, etc).
On a side note, has anyone found a definitive cause for the occasional motorboating/stuttering audio when an AllStarNode transmits? I have another machine that I can use, but I would like to know what causes it and how it can be eliminated or reduced. This is the only thing that has marred an otherwise perfect experience with my AllStarLink node.
Michael. VK5ZEA
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When I grow up I'm going to be a retiree... GC ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Gladden To: George Csahanin ; Chuck Henderson Cc: app_rpt mailing list Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Culling Linux Services (ACID) Yep I’ve tried disabling everything possible (everything that takes an interrupt and/or cpu cycles) NTPD included. I’ve never noticed anything as such to make a significant difference… I’ve reached the conclusion: 1. USB sucks (as I’ve been told by the pros here) and it’s never going to get any better (on USB). 2. The software is still imperfect and has room to be improved (better kernel /os/usb/timer integration). When I grow up & get smarter/more experienced I’ll either agree with the pros or fix it. Steve From: George Csahanin [mailto:george@dyb.com] Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 11:17 PM To: Chuck Henderson Cc: Steve Gladden; John Heron; app_rpt mailing list Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: [App_rpt-users] [SPAM] Re: Culling Linux Services (ACID) Not running ntpd here, though George Csahanin Sent from my iPad On Jul 31, 2011, at 8:44 PM, Chuck Henderson <chuck.henderson@gmail.com> wrote: Disable NTPD and the problem happens much less often. I cron ntpdate to run once per hour to keep the time close. This way I only hear the audio glitch once per hour rather than intermittently. On Jul 31, 2011 4:57 PM, "Steve Gladden" <steve@michiganbroadband.com> wrote: > There's a recording of it over here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqYwhtuVLDs > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of George Csahanin > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 2:16 PM > To: John Heron > Cc: app_rpt mailing list > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] [SPAM] Re: Culling Linux Services (ACID) > > I think I know what you mean. Shows us as a very brief, repeated disruption to PL tone, drops your mobile/ht decoder, maybe for time in 2 seconds, then ok for a while. t iunterrupts main audio as well, just very brief and not noticed. > > Yup, every PC I tried does it. I jusst got used to it. > > I wanted to get a recording of it over a year ago, but no clean way to record audio. You really get to notice it if you put your signal generator in the receiver, and modulate with something like a 1Kc tone > > I've tried five computers and four USB devices, all do it. > > GeorgeC > W2DB > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Heron" <jh0932@gmail.com> > To: "George Csahanin" <george@dyb.com> > Cc: "Lu Vencl" <vencl@att.net>; "MichaelCarey" > <michaelcarey@internode.on.net>; "app_rpt mailing list" > <app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org> > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 12:26 PM > Subject: [SPAM] Re: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID) > > >> Any motorboating issues? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 31, 2011, at 1:21 PM, "George Csahanin" <george@dyb.com> wrote: >> >>> So far built 3 on Intel D945GCLF2 boards, PicoPSU power supplies, both >>> Limey off a CF and Acid off disk >>> >>> Use CM108 $6.96 USB sounds FOBs. Brought PTT out of one of them, the >>> others use printer port for PTT, and all use software squelch and ctcss >>> decode. >>> >>> GeorgeC >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Heron" <jh0932@gmail.com> >>> To: "'Lu Vencl'" <vencl@att.net>; "'Michael Carey'" >>> <michaelcarey@internode.on.net>; "'app_rpt mailing list'" >>> <app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org> >>> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 9:25 AM >>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID) >>> >>> >>>> It begs the question on what hardware really works 100% and what does >>>> not. I >>>> ran into this years ago running a global pactor III network and finally >>>> had >>>> to goto a acceptable hardware list as some hardware came real close to >>>> being >>>> fully compatible but would sporadically do weird things for no apparent >>>> reason... a bad thing when the box is in remote jungle locations... It >>>> boils >>>> down to who has had the least amount of issues with motherboard a vs. b >>>> and >>>> so on... >>>> >>>> I am looking at small micro ATX form factors for example... anybody have >>>> suggestions for a inexpensive repeatable reliable solution? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org >>>> [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Lu Vencl >>>> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 9:44 AM >>>> To: 'Michael Carey'; 'app_rpt mailing list' >>>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID) >>>> >>>> Michael, >>>> I still have not figured out what causes this issue. >>>> I have tried adding two different NEC chipset USB PCI boards and that >>>> made >>>> it much worse on my ASUS mother boards. I believe I have pretty much >>>> exhausted all options at this point. I just don't know why all 8 of my >>>> boxes >>>> 2.8 GHZ (all Asus) do this. I went to slower boxes (even down to 400 >>>> Mhz) >>>> and I don't get this issue.. Go figure. >>>> There has to be some other underlying issue where perhaps and interrupt >>>> is >>>> being messed with or some other issue. I just can't pin it down. >>>> I am working out a trade for some slower boxes in exchange for these >>>> machines as a solution for now. >>>> Sorry I wish I had a better answer. >>>> Lu >>>> KA4EPS >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org >>>> [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Michael Carey >>>> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 7:00 AM >>>> To: app_rpt mailing list >>>> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID) >>>> >>>> Hi Everybody, >>>> >>>> In an effort to make node 27871 a lean, mean, fighting machine... I'm >>>> trying to keep things neat and tidy by stopping any services that have >>>> no direct impact on the operation of the node. >>>> >>>> I'm after input on what others have done on their own AllStarLink nodes. >>>> >>>> I have done a similar thing on my Icom G2 D-Star gateway... going >>>> through and disabling services (like bluetooth, VNC, smartcard, IPv6, >>>> etc). >>>> >>>> On a side note, has anyone found a definitive cause for the occasional >>>> motorboating/stuttering audio when an AllStarNode transmits? I have >>>> another machine that I can use, but I would like to know what causes it >>>> and how it can be eliminated or reduced. This is the only thing that has >>>> marred an otherwise perfect experience with my AllStarLink node. >>>> >>>> Michael. >>>> VK5ZEA >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>> App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org >>>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>> App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org >>>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
I never plan to grow up. On the motor boating issue, I've only experienced it when someone connects via the web transceiver. If they disconnect and reconnect it goes away. For whatever that is worth. Ed W8VT On 8/1/2011 8:56 AM, George Csahanin wrote:
When I grow up I'm going to be a retiree... GC
----- Original Message ----- *From:* Steve Gladden <mailto:steve@michiganbroadband.com> *To:* George Csahanin <mailto:george@dyb.com> ; Chuck Henderson <mailto:chuck.henderson@gmail.com> *Cc:* app_rpt mailing list <mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org> *Sent:* Sunday, July 31, 2011 10:39 PM *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Culling Linux Services (ACID)
Yep I've tried disabling everything possible (everything that takes an interrupt and/or cpu cycles) NTPD included.
I've never noticed anything as such to make a significant difference...
I've reached the conclusion:
1.USB sucks (as I've been told by the pros here) and it's never going to get any better (on USB).
2.The software is still imperfect and has room to be improved (better kernel /os/usb/timer integration).
When I grow up & get smarter/more experienced I'll either agree with the pros or fix it.
Steve
*From:*George Csahanin [mailto:george@dyb.com] *Sent:* Sunday, July 31, 2011 11:17 PM *To:* Chuck Henderson *Cc:* Steve Gladden; John Heron; app_rpt mailing list *Subject:* Re: [SPAM] Re: [App_rpt-users] [SPAM] Re: Culling Linux Services (ACID)
Not running ntpd here, though
George Csahanin
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 31, 2011, at 8:44 PM, Chuck Henderson <chuck.henderson@gmail.com <mailto:chuck.henderson@gmail.com>> wrote:
Disable NTPD and the problem happens much less often. I cron ntpdate to run once per hour to keep the time close. This way I only hear the audio glitch once per hour rather than intermittently.
On Jul 31, 2011 4:57 PM, "Steve Gladden" <steve@michiganbroadband.com <mailto:steve@michiganbroadband.com>> wrote: > There's a recording of it over here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqYwhtuVLDs > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org <mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org> [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org <mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org>] On Behalf Of George Csahanin > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 2:16 PM > To: John Heron > Cc: app_rpt mailing list > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] [SPAM] Re: Culling Linux Services (ACID) > > I think I know what you mean. Shows us as a very brief, repeated disruption to PL tone, drops your mobile/ht decoder, maybe for time in 2 seconds, then ok for a while. t iunterrupts main audio as well, just very brief and not noticed. > > Yup, every PC I tried does it. I jusst got used to it. > > I wanted to get a recording of it over a year ago, but no clean way to record audio. You really get to notice it if you put your signal generator in the receiver, and modulate with something like a 1Kc tone > > I've tried five computers and four USB devices, all do it. > > GeorgeC > W2DB > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Heron" <jh0932@gmail.com <mailto:jh0932@gmail.com>> > To: "George Csahanin" <george@dyb.com <mailto:george@dyb.com>> > Cc: "Lu Vencl" <vencl@att.net <mailto:vencl@att.net>>; "MichaelCarey" > <michaelcarey@internode.on.net <mailto:michaelcarey@internode.on.net>>; "app_rpt mailing list" > <app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org <mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>> > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 12:26 PM > Subject: [SPAM] Re: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID) > > >> Any motorboating issues? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 31, 2011, at 1:21 PM, "George Csahanin" <george@dyb.com <mailto:george@dyb.com>> wrote: >> >>> So far built 3 on Intel D945GCLF2 boards, PicoPSU power supplies, both >>> Limey off a CF and Acid off disk >>> >>> Use CM108 $6.96 USB sounds FOBs. Brought PTT out of one of them, the >>> others use printer port for PTT, and all use software squelch and ctcss >>> decode. >>> >>> GeorgeC >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Heron" <jh0932@gmail.com <mailto:jh0932@gmail.com>> >>> To: "'Lu Vencl'" <vencl@att.net <mailto:vencl@att.net>>; "'Michael Carey'" >>> <michaelcarey@internode.on.net <mailto:michaelcarey@internode.on.net>>; "'app_rpt mailing list'" >>> <app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org <mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>> >>> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 9:25 AM >>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID) >>> >>> >>>> It begs the question on what hardware really works 100% and what does >>>> not. I >>>> ran into this years ago running a global pactor III network and finally >>>> had >>>> to goto a acceptable hardware list as some hardware came real close to >>>> being >>>> fully compatible but would sporadically do weird things for no apparent >>>> reason... a bad thing when the box is in remote jungle locations... It >>>> boils >>>> down to who has had the least amount of issues with motherboard a vs. b >>>> and >>>> so on... >>>> >>>> I am looking at small micro ATX form factors for example... anybody have >>>> suggestions for a inexpensive repeatable reliable solution? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org <mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org> >>>> [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org <mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org>] On Behalf Of Lu Vencl >>>> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 9:44 AM >>>> To: 'Michael Carey'; 'app_rpt mailing list' >>>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID) >>>> >>>> Michael, >>>> I still have not figured out what causes this issue. >>>> I have tried adding two different NEC chipset USB PCI boards and that >>>> made >>>> it much worse on my ASUS mother boards. I believe I have pretty much >>>> exhausted all options at this point. I just don't know why all 8 of my >>>> boxes >>>> 2.8 GHZ (all Asus) do this. I went to slower boxes (even down to 400 >>>> Mhz) >>>> and I don't get this issue.. Go figure. >>>> There has to be some other underlying issue where perhaps and interrupt >>>> is >>>> being messed with or some other issue. I just can't pin it down. >>>> I am working out a trade for some slower boxes in exchange for these >>>> machines as a solution for now. >>>> Sorry I wish I had a better answer. >>>> Lu >>>> KA4EPS >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org <mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org> >>>> [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org <mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org>] On Behalf Of Michael Carey >>>> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 7:00 AM >>>> To: app_rpt mailing list >>>> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID) >>>> >>>> Hi Everybody, >>>> >>>> In an effort to make node 27871 a lean, mean, fighting machine... I'm >>>> trying to keep things neat and tidy by stopping any services that have >>>> no direct impact on the operation of the node. >>>> >>>> I'm after input on what others have done on their own AllStarLink nodes. >>>> >>>> I have done a similar thing on my Icom G2 D-Star gateway... going >>>> through and disabling services (like bluetooth, VNC, smartcard, IPv6, >>>> etc). >>>> >>>> On a side note, has anyone found a definitive cause for the occasional >>>> motorboating/stuttering audio when an AllStarNode transmits? I have >>>> another machine that I can use, but I would like to know what causes it >>>> and how it can be eliminated or reduced. This is the only thing that has >>>> marred an otherwise perfect experience with my AllStarLink node. >>>> >>>> Michael. >>>> VK5ZEA >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>> App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org <mailto:App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org> >>>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>> App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org <mailto:App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org> >>>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org <mailto:App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org> > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org <mailto:App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org> > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
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