Did you see this? http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/103 -- Tim :wq On Dec 4, 2013, at 7:57 AM, Doug Crompton <doug@crompton.com> wrote:

I checked the source and there are no comments on the telemetry default (telemdefault) setting nor does there seem to be any specific info page on that command at ohnosec.org

Perhaps a developer could comment?

Did you look at the 'holdofftelem' command?

http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/110

There is also 'telemdynamic' which I can't seem to find info on either. Comprehensive documentation on the telemetry commands seems to be lacking. I guess we are expected to snake through the source and figure it out!

73 Doug WA3DSP http://www.crompton.com/hamradio

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From: t.schoentag@web.de To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 09:47:18 +0100 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Turn off dis/connect messages but not other telemetry? (corrected)

Sorry, there are any mistakes in my first posting here is the corrected posting:

Hello, very thanks for your quickly resolutions,

I would like to switch off all connect/disconnect messages (anouncements). I have

telemdefault=2 echolinkdefault=2.

For echolink that work, there are no messages, but for linking from/to other allstar nodes or for linking from allstar webtranceiver there are all messages online. If I set

telemdefault=0

all messages are off, realy all! Is it possible to switch off the dis/connect messages but not the other telemetry, pehaps *81 time ...?

A other solution for my problem could be a shorter dis/connect message. In the moment I hear "DL7VTS connected to node 91246" or "node 12345 connected to node 91246" (in phonetic). Is it possible to use only "DL7VTS connected". This is half off the audio traffic, has the same information and is more usefull? eannmode=0 is only for echolink and has not this function! I think it is to change in the sources but I need a tip (filename ..)

Thanks for help, Thomas, DL7VTS _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users

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It means that when you issue a link command, for example *32000, the connect message will play back to you. Then, for a short while, like 30 or 60 seconds, you will here any dis/connects even if you did not initiate them. After the 30-60 second timer times expires you will not hear any more dis/connects until you initiate another link command. -- Tim :wq On Dec 4, 2013, at 7:32 PM, Doug Crompton <doug@crompton.com> wrote:

Tim,

Thanks, missed that. Can you define what this means?

2 = timed telemetry output on command execution and for a short time thereafter

73 Doug WA3DSP http://www.crompton.com/hamradio

Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Turn off dis/connect messages but not other telemetry? (corrected) From: tim.sawyer@mac.com Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 08:40:19 -0800 CC: t.schoentag@web.de; app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org To: doug@crompton.com

Did you see this? http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/103 -- Tim :wq

On Dec 4, 2013, at 7:57 AM, Doug Crompton <doug@crompton.com> wrote:

I checked the source and there are no comments on the telemetry default (telemdefault) setting nor does there seem to be any specific info page on that command at ohnosec.org

Perhaps a developer could comment?

Did you look at the 'holdofftelem' command?

http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/110

There is also 'telemdynamic' which I can't seem to find info on either. Comprehensive documentation on the telemetry commands seems to be lacking. I guess we are expected to snake through the source and figure it out!

73 Doug WA3DSP http://www.crompton.com/hamradio

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From: t.schoentag@web.de To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 09:47:18 +0100 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Turn off dis/connect messages but not other telemetry? (corrected)

Sorry, there are any mistakes in my first posting here is the corrected posting:

Hello, very thanks for your quickly resolutions,

I would like to switch off all connect/disconnect messages (anouncements). I have

telemdefault=2 echolinkdefault=2.

For echolink that work, there are no messages, but for linking from/to other allstar nodes or for linking from allstar webtranceiver there are all messages online. If I set

telemdefault=0

all messages are off, realy all! Is it possible to switch off the dis/connect messages but not the other telemetry, pehaps *81 time ...?

A other solution for my problem could be a shorter dis/connect message. In the moment I hear "DL7VTS connected to node 91246" or "node 12345 connected to node 91246" (in phonetic). Is it possible to use only "DL7VTS connected". This is half off the audio traffic, has the same information and is more usefull? eannmode=0 is only for echolink and has not this function! I think it is to change in the sources but I need a tip (filename ..)

Thanks for help, Thomas, DL7VTS _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users

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That’s correct. -- Tim :wq On Dec 4, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Doug Crompton <doug@crompton.com> wrote:

OK that sounds like a good thing to try. I assume this only applies to the connect/disconnect messages and not other telemetry audio?

73 Doug WA3DSP http://www.crompton.com/hamradio

Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Turn off dis/connect messages but not other telemetry? (corrected) From: tim.sawyer@mac.com Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 20:01:19 -0800 CC: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org To: doug@crompton.com

It means that when you issue a link command, for example *32000, the connect message will play back to you. Then, for a short while, like 30 or 60 seconds, you will here any dis/connects even if you did not initiate them. After the 30-60 second timer times expires you will not hear any more dis/connects until you initiate another link command. -- Tim :wq

On Dec 4, 2013, at 7:32 PM, Doug Crompton <doug@crompton.com> wrote:

Tim,

Thanks, missed that. Can you define what this means?

2 = timed telemetry output on command execution and for a short time thereafter

73 Doug WA3DSP http://www.crompton.com/hamradio

Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Turn off dis/connect messages but not other telemetry? (corrected) From: tim.sawyer@mac.com Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 08:40:19 -0800 CC: t.schoentag@web.de; app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org To: doug@crompton.com

Did you see this? http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/103 -- Tim :wq

On Dec 4, 2013, at 7:57 AM, Doug Crompton <doug@crompton.com> wrote:

I checked the source and there are no comments on the telemetry default (telemdefault) setting nor does there seem to be any specific info page on that command at ohnosec.org

Perhaps a developer could comment?

Did you look at the 'holdofftelem' command?

http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/110

There is also 'telemdynamic' which I can't seem to find info on either. Comprehensive documentation on the telemetry commands seems to be lacking. I guess we are expected to snake through the source and figure it out!

73 Doug WA3DSP http://www.crompton.com/hamradio

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From: t.schoentag@web.de To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 09:47:18 +0100 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Turn off dis/connect messages but not other telemetry? (corrected)

Sorry, there are any mistakes in my first posting here is the corrected posting:

Hello, very thanks for your quickly resolutions,

I would like to switch off all connect/disconnect messages (anouncements). I have

telemdefault=2 echolinkdefault=2.

For echolink that work, there are no messages, but for linking from/to other allstar nodes or for linking from allstar webtranceiver there are all messages online. If I set

telemdefault=0

all messages are off, realy all! Is it possible to switch off the dis/connect messages but not the other telemetry, pehaps *81 time ...?

A other solution for my problem could be a shorter dis/connect message. In the moment I hear "DL7VTS connected to node 91246" or "node 12345 connected to node 91246" (in phonetic). Is it possible to use only "DL7VTS connected". This is half off the audio traffic, has the same information and is more usefull? eannmode=0 is only for echolink and has not this function! I think it is to change in the sources but I need a tip (filename ..)

Thanks for help, Thomas, DL7VTS _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users

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Unfortunately, no. There is no audio ducking for ACID or Limey. I had that on a 6502 controller I built back in the ‘80s. Seems like it wouldn’t be that hard to add, but I’m not a C guy so what do I know. -- Tim :wq On Dec 6, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Geoff <ars.w5omr@gmail.com> wrote:

On 12/05/2013 12:09 AM, Tim Sawyer wrote:

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Tim, is there an implementation for 'duck' for Acid?

I think this is what Doug is looking for.

For others who may not know, 'duck' is used in xaiper, and the telemetry voice 'ducks' under the audio of the repeater user, by dropping the telemetry voice level by half (or as defined).

So, does such a thing exist for Acid?

-Geoff/W5OMR

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On 12/6/2013 10:23 AM, Geoff wrote:

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For others who may not know, 'duck' is used in xaiper, and the telemetry voice 'ducks' under the audio of the repeater user, by dropping the telemetry voice level by half (or as defined).

-Geoff/W5OMR

Since I was the person who requested and defined the operation of this function, I feel the need to provide a proper explanation. This feature was officially added to XIPAR on March 30, 2011. Here is the email with the explanation of its operation:

March 21, 2011

Kevin,

Thanks for calling. I'm glad I got your input to add the setting for the nominal, non-busy channel announce volume in addition to the busy channel announce volume.

With the new software, the following values can be entered for a repeater context in /etc/asterisk/rpt.conf.

telemnomdb = Telemetry Nominal dB volume adjustment. This is the number of dB to adjust the telemetry volume when the channel is not keyed by a local or remote received signal. Example: telemnomdb=-3 Default: telemnomdb=0

telemduckdb = Telemetry Duck dB volume adjustment. This is the number of dB to adjust the telemetry volume when the channel is keyed by a local or remote received signal. Example: telemduckdb=-10 Default: telemduckdb=0

I'm ready to load this on a test repeater whenever you have one ready. After good results, I'll make this change to the install sources.

I'll also have the update script handle the case of locally modified sources a little better.

73, Steve, W9SH

This was ported to node 27258 and tested for about a week. I use the the following parameters: telemnomdb=-10 ; Telemetry Nominal Amplitude reference in dB telemduckdb=-15 ; Telemetry Ducking in dB when local or link voice tx in progress My setting are aggressive, but the ability is there to set these the way YOU like. Many folks don't realize the female voice behind Asterisk is a real lady. Her name is Allison Smith: http://www.theivrvoice.com/ http://www.theivrvoice.com/allison-asterisk/ You'll like here even more when you can control the level of her voice! <grin> Kevin Custer - WJ8G

  $0.02  Xipar not only ducks but has a telemetry amplitude reference in db'sIt's probably lame considering telemdefault=2 works well enough.  telemnomdb=-10 ; in this case negetive -10 dB no need for the gaindown script. telemetry ducking is adjustable too.  Thank you to those responsible for acid and xipar. I use both and , but don't intend to loose site of who's hosting the server for either distro.   Did you try removing or renaming the sound directory to eliminate the audio response?   JK From: Geoff <ars.w5omr@gmail.com> To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Sent: Friday, December 6, 2013 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Turn off dis/connect messages but not other telemetry? (corrected) On 12/05/2013 12:09 AM, Tim Sawyer wrote: Tim, is there an implementation for 'duck' for Acid? I think this is what Doug is looking for.  For others who may not know, 'duck' is used in xaiper, and the telemetry voice 'ducks' under the audio of the repeater user, by dropping the telemetry voice level by half (or as defined). So, does such a thing exist for Acid? -Geoff/W5OMR _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users telemduckdb=0 ; Telemetry Ducking in dB when local or link voice tx in progress