Why am I getting all this drama emailed to me all day long?
Dave
How are they not allowing all to communicate?
73, Steve N4IRS
On 10/3/2016 1:25 PM, mccrpt@tampabay.rr.com wrote:
I agree with Mickey, doing the work of the FRC requires commitment. It
aint an easy job. I for one would not want to see an inexperienced Ham
deciding coordination, someone who has not been involved with it for a
while. Each repeater owner has their own needs and the FRC work has to
do much more than assign pairs.
Just like this discussion and whoever started it, they are not allowing
all to communicate. Do we want this in FRC???
73, ron, n9ee/r a know code Extra
Ron Wright, N9EE/R
BSEE
Micro Computer Concepts
352-683-4476
mccrpt@tampabay.rr.com
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*From:* FRC-Info <frc-info-bounces@lists.keekles.org > on behalf of
Mickey Baker <n4mb@arrl.net>
*Sent:* Monday, October 3, 2016 11:35 AM
*To:* Florida Repeater Council Discussion
*Subject:* Re: [FRC] FYI... Florida Repeater Council Information
A couple of words of advice from an experienced IT engineer - who has
had an IT management position in Florida in the public sector as well as
worked at DoD:
1. Anyone who doesn't want unpredictable emails on their corporate or
government email server shouldn't subscribe to open lists. Get a free
email account, like this one from Google and point all the groups to
that email.
2. Anyone hoping that what they write in an email could remain private
should learn to use email encryption. I won't go into details, but...
3. Anyone sending a plain language email should anticipate that email
being read by anyone anywhere.
That said, I've found the entire FRC to be a slow moving, difficult to
deal with organization with antique web sites. Some of the directors are
a bit gruff and condescending, but I find that a common trait among long
term hams, particular trying to relate to the current crop of no-code
licensees. I include myself, as I quickly lose patience with folks who
don't know the basic things covered in the license material.
I submitted a coordination request the day I got a message in May that
the W4AB 2m repeater coordination had expired - May 7, 2016. It was
approved over this weekend - almost 5 months to approve a registration
for a repeater that has been in operation on that frequency at that site
for 28 years.
W4AB is currently not in the directory they publish, but now that the
"official" ARRL repeater directory is now RFinder, I can (and do) deal
directly with them for directory issues.
My local director (Mark) has been very responsive, but he doesn't have
direct access to add to or edit the database!
It is my understanding that coordinations are handled by Dana and he's
the only one with database access. Something might be going on in his
personal life that causes this delay, but it is the duty of people with
responsibility to engage with others to ensure succession of the
organization and the mission. This appears to be the point of failure in
many organizations but is key to the survival of that organization.
All that said, here's the problem - if everyone on the board resigns or
gets otherwise terminated, someone needs to have the time, talent and
inclination to immediately recover data from wherever it is and create a
new database and start up a complete new system, while doing all the
things the current FRC are doing now... this will require cooperation
with the current directors, particularly Dana.
Are we all ready for that?
If so, let's go get this handed over. Exactly where and when is the
meeting next weekend?
Mickey N4MB
Mickey Baker, N4MB
Fort Lauderdale, FL
/“Tell me, and I will listen. Show me, and I will understand. Involve
me, and I will learn.” /Teton Lakota, American Indian Saying.
On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Dave Messinger H. <dmessing@pbcgov.org
<mailto:dmessing@pbcgov.org>> wrote:
Gentlemen (and Ladies, if any) ,____
I don’t know where you got this e-mail from. I truly doubt you got
it legitimatelyfrom the FRC. ____
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Regardless, ____
I have not asked to be included in this group or any discussions, ____
You are e-mailing my work/Government e-mail account (so everything
is open the Florida Sunshine Law),____
And finally, I have never had any troubles with the Florida Repeater
Council. They have always acted quickly and fairly with any
questions or registration I have had.____
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Mr. Fields,____
I would ask that, in the future, you consider your actions a bit
more before blindly e-mailing a large group of people with your
grievances. ____
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<mailto:frc-info-bounces@lists.keekles.org >] *On Behalf Of
*kg4ugk@kg4ugk.com <mailto:kg4ugk@kg4ugk.com>
*Sent:* Monday, October 03, 2016 8:26 AM
*To:* Florida Repeater Council Discussion
<frc-info@lists.keekles.org <mailto:frc-info@lists.keekles.org >>
*Subject:* Re: [FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information____
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Back in 2002, Dana was extremely helpful in getting my coordination
completed.____
____
Bryan, question. Why would you need a listing of unused pairs? It
seems counter productive to starting a new repeater, as well as
trying to find existing ones.____
____
In my understanding and past experience, you request temporary
coordination and based on your location and desired output power,
they then assign you a frequency pair that won't interfere with
existing repeaters in the output powers RF range. They then give you
time to setup and test before providing full coordination.____
____
Launching a repeater on an unused frequency pair, would potentially
cause interference to those setting one up in the future, and would
possibly result in a cease and deceit letter from the FCC when
someone else receives coordination for that pair.____
____
Best regards,____
Shawn Campbell____
KG4UGK____
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-----Original Message-----
From: vern@highwayusa.com <mailto:vern@highwayusa.com>
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 6:58am
To: "Florida Repeater Council Discussion"
<frc-info@lists.keekles.org <mailto:frc-info@lists.keekles.org >>
Subject: Re: [FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information____
I must say that I have tried several times to contact the
council to see if I could fire my repeater back up on my
old pair, and have heard nothing. I thought they were
defunct until I saw this email come through.
Vern
KI4ONW
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