Florida Repeater Council Information
Greetings and welcome to the Florida Repeater Discussion List, I am Bryan Fields, W9CR. I’m involved in amateur radio in the Tampa Bay area, with membership in four local clubs and chairman of the Technical Committee for my local group. Professionally I am a Network Architect with a major telecom company. I’ve been a licensed amateur since 1995 (over 2/3 of my life), hold a GROL+Radar and have a background in cellular/microwave networks. Fellow Amateurs, the FRC is an organization run amuck. Incompetent directors are managing it, flouting the bylaws, violating Florida Law, and ignoring member needs. I am asking for your proxy for the upcoming FRC meeting. It has failed in its ability to coordinate operations of amateur radio repeaters in the following ways: * Publication of the FRC database on a public website o This database dump in MySQL format and the associated webpages show without a doubt the level of incompetency in the programming behind the database. This is nothing but gross negligence on the part of Director Rodakis and Director Lavender. o Per the coordination policy, locations are to be kept secret, however a Reddit user was kind enough to post a Google earth KML showing the coordinated location of every repeater in the state. o All your personal data, phone, email, home address, repeater site address and Repeater Site GPS coordinates are published. * Length of the coordination process is unacceptable! o As of this writing coordination applications post 1/25/2016 have not been processed. It’s */October/*! o If the coordinator cannot process applications in a reasonable time, he needs to step down. o Renewals have not been processed post 5/7/2016! As most coordinations expire on 9/30/2016, this means no members may vote under the bylaws! This applies to the board as well. * Violation of the coordination policy by the directors * Willful violation of the bylaws by the directors * Willful violations of FS 617 regarding members request for information o Acknowledged receipt of this by President Kassis * Publicly stating the policy of the FRC is “is unable to search for available frequencies”, when this is the FCC definition of a frequency coordinator. * When they do suggest frequencies there active repeaters on them, some even coordinated well under the radius. * Inventing new coordination polices on the fly without approval of the board The FRC must be reformed if it wishes to keep its legitimacy. Frequency coordination is voluntary in amateur radio, and there is little reason for amateur radio operators in Florida to seek coordination from the FRC under this current administration. My goal is to transform this organization into a healthy helping hand for repeater operators and other amateur spectrum users. No one should be answered with contempt for months after putting an application in for coordination only to be told “fill it out again, we can’t edit it”. This should not be an organization which exists as a good-ol’-boy system breading contempt; rather one which operates in the open, in accordance with its bylaws, and accountable to its members. The FRC should ask how to say “Yes” rather than saying “No” in working with their members and other amateurs. My plan to get us on the right track is: * Remove the current directors for gross incompetency and exposing the organization to liability: o Ray Kassis, N4LEM o Dana Rodakis, K4LK o (Glenn) Mike Fletcher, NI4M o Chuck Lavender, W4CLL * Demand new elections for existing directors in compliance with the bylaws. * Establish a bylaw committee to rewrite the bylaws and change the organization structure to better serve all amateurs in Florida. * Establish a development process for new policies from the membership * Encourage input from the membership based on sound technical policies * De-centralize coordination by having a web enabled database be accessible to the public showing all history of an application through coordination. * No one person should be the gatekeeper of the database. * Make all records of the FRC open to the public, as any non-profit serving the public interest must be. I will make a motion to accomplish this at the next meeting at the Melbourne Hamfest meeting. To make this happen, I am asking for your proxy, if you’re a member of the FRC. You will need to print out this form and sign it, then send a scan or legible picture of it to me via email or text message. If you can attend the meeting, please do so. It’s $10 to become a member on the FRC website and it buys the right to have a say in the future of amateur radio in Florida. http://florida-repeaters.org/donate.htm I fully expect to be shouted down by the board, but as members we cannot be ignored. I wish to resolve this via the membership, but if ignored I do intend to comply the board, by any legal means, to follow the bylaws and FS 617. I need your proxy by the Friday, October 7, 2016. 73’s and see you at Melbourne, Bryan Fields, W9CR P.S. Please feel free to discuss this on list. If you wish to not be a part of this discussion you can remove yourself using the link at the bottom. I'm happy to oblige your wishes via direct email as well if you have any questions.
Bryan, I find that the FRC web page is not available. I can't remember when I sent my donation within the last year. When the WEB page opens I will send another $10 to join and you will have my proxy. You are absolutely correct... 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I’m involved in amateur radio in the Tampa Bay area, with membership in four local clubs and chairman of the Technical Committee for my local group. Professionally I am a Network Architect with a major telecom company. I’ve been a licensed amateur since 1995 (over 2/3 of my life), hold a GROL+Radar and have a background in cellular/microwave networks. Fellow Amateurs, the FRC is an organization run amuck. Incompetent directors are managing it, flouting the bylaws, violating Florida Law, and ignoring member needs. I am asking for your proxy for the upcoming FRC meeting. It has failed in its ability to coordinate operations of amateur radio repeaters in the following ways: - Publication of the FRC database on a public website - This database dump in MySQL format and the associated webpages show without a doubt the level of incompetency in the programming behind the database. This is nothing but gross negligence on the part of Director Rodakis and Director Lavender. - Per the coordination policy, locations are to be kept secret, however a Reddit user was kind enough to post a Google earth KML showing the coordinated location of every repeater in the state. - All your personal data, phone, email, home address, repeater site address and Repeater Site GPS coordinates are published. - Length of the coordination process is unacceptable! - As of this writing coordination applications post 1/25/2016 have not been processed. It’s October! - If the coordinator cannot process applications in a reasonable time, he needs to step down. - Renewals have not been processed post 5/7/2016! As most coordinations expire on 9/30/2016, this means no members may vote under the bylaws! This applies to the board as well. - Violation of the coordination policy by the directors - Willful violation of the bylaws by the directors - Willful violations of FS 617 regarding members request for information - Acknowledged receipt of this by President Kassis - Publicly stating the policy of the FRC is “is unable to search for available frequencies”, when this is the FCC definition of a frequency coordinator. - When they do suggest frequencies there active repeaters on them, some even coordinated well under the radius. - Inventing new coordination polices on the fly without approval of the board The FRC must be reformed if it wishes to keep its legitimacy. Frequency coordination is voluntary in amateur radio, and there is little reason for amateur radio operators in Florida to seek coordination from the FRC under this current administration. My goal is to transform this organization into a healthy helping hand for repeater operators and other amateur spectrum users. No one should be answered with contempt for months after putting an application in for coordination only to be told “fill it out again, we can’t edit it”. This should not be an organization which exists as a good-ol’-boy system breading contempt; rather one which operates in the open, in accordance with its bylaws, and accountable to its members. The FRC should ask how to say “Yes” rather than saying “No” in working with their members and other amateurs. My plan to get us on the right track is: - Remove the current directors for gross incompetency and exposing the organization to liability: - Ray Kassis, N4LEM - Dana Rodakis, K4LK - (Glenn) Mike Fletcher, NI4M - Chuck Lavender, W4CLL - Demand new elections for existing directors in compliance with the bylaws. - Establish a bylaw committee to rewrite the bylaws and change the organization structure to better serve all amateurs in Florida. - Establish a development process for new policies from the membership - Encourage input from the membership based on sound technical policies - De-centralize coordination by having a web enabled database be accessible to the public showing all history of an application through coordination. - No one person should be the gatekeeper of the database. - Make all records of the FRC open to the public, as any non-profit serving the public interest must be. I will make a motion to accomplish this at the next meeting at the Melbourne Hamfest meeting. To make this happen, I am asking for your proxy, if you’re a member of the FRC. You will need to print out this form and sign it, then send a scan or legible picture of it to me via email or text message. If you can attend the meeting, please do so. It’s $10 to become a member on the FRC website and it buys the right to have a say in the future of amateur radio in Florida. http://florida-repeaters.org/donate.htm I fully expect to be shouted down by the board, but as members we cannot be ignored. I wish to resolve this via the membership, but if ignored I do intend to comply the board, by any legal means, to follow the bylaws and FS 617. I need your proxy by the Friday, October 7, 2016. 73’s and see you at Melbourne, Bryan Fields, W9CR P.S. Please feel free to discuss this on list. If you wish to not be a part of this discussion you can remove yourself using the link at the bottom. I'm happy to oblige your wishes via direct email as well if you have any questions. _______________________________________________ FRC-Info mailing list FRC-Info@lists.keekles.org http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info
Thank you for your vote here. I would hope they send a reminder to renew member, but as we know that is not the case. When I did it in May it was $10 via PayPal to "Florida Repeater Council, Inc.. (k4lk@tampabay.rr.com)" Under instructions to merchant I put my coordinated repeaters and those pending. If you have PayPal you can send it direct to k4lk@tampabay.rr.com without going via the website. 73's On 10/2/16 11:39 PM, Leon Jurczyszyn wrote:
Bryan,
I find that the FRC web page is not available. I can't remember when I sent my donation within the last year. When the WEB page opens I will send another $10 to join and you will have my proxy.
You are absolutely correct...
Leon K8ZAG
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* Bryan Fields <Bryan@bryanfields.net> *To:* frc-info@lists.keekles.org *Sent:* Sunday, October 2, 2016 10:22 PM *Subject:* [FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information
Greetings and welcome to the Florida Repeater Discussion List,
I am Bryan Fields, W9CR.
I’m involved in amateur radio in the Tampa Bay area, with membership in four local clubs and chairman of the Technical Committee for my local group.
Professionally I am a Network Architect with a major telecom company. I’ve been a licensed amateur since 1995 (over 2/3 of my life), hold a GROL+Radar and have a background in cellular/microwave networks.
Fellow Amateurs, the FRC is an organization run amuck. Incompetent directors are managing it, flouting the bylaws, violating Florida Law, and ignoring member needs. I am asking for your proxy for the upcoming FRC meeting.
It has failed in its ability to coordinate operations of amateur radio repeaters in the following ways:
* Publication of the FRC database on a public website o This database dump in MySQL format and the associated webpages show without a doubt the level of incompetency in the programming behind the database. This is nothing but gross negligence on the part of Director Rodakis and Director Lavender. o Per the coordination policy, locations are to be kept secret, however a Reddit user was kind enough to post a Google earth KML showing the coordinated location of every repeater in the state. o All your personal data, phone, email, home address, repeater site address and Repeater Site GPS coordinates are published.
* Length of the coordination process is unacceptable! o As of this writing coordination applications post 1/25/2016 have not been processed. It’s */October/*! o If the coordinator cannot process applications in a reasonable time, he needs to step down. o Renewals have not been processed post 5/7/2016! As most coordinations expire on 9/30/2016, this means no members may vote under the bylaws! This applies to the board as well.
* Violation of the coordination policy by the directors * Willful violation of the bylaws by the directors * Willful violations of FS 617 regarding members request for information o Acknowledged receipt of this by President Kassis * Publicly stating the policy of the FRC is “is unable to search for available frequencies”, when this is the FCC definition of a frequency coordinator. * When they do suggest frequencies there active repeaters on them, some even coordinated well under the radius. * Inventing new coordination polices on the fly without approval of the board
The FRC must be reformed if it wishes to keep its legitimacy. Frequency coordination is voluntary in amateur radio, and there is little reason for amateur radio operators in Florida to seek coordination from the FRC under this current administration.
My goal is to transform this organization into a healthy helping hand for repeater operators and other amateur spectrum users. No one should be answered with contempt for months after putting an application in for coordination only to be told “fill it out again, we can’t edit it”. This should not be an organization which exists as a good-ol’-boy system breading contempt; rather one which operates in the open, in accordance with its bylaws, and accountable to its members.
The FRC should ask how to say “Yes” rather than saying “No” in working with their members and other amateurs.
My plan to get us on the right track is:
* Remove the current directors for gross incompetency and exposing the organization to liability: o Ray Kassis, N4LEM o Dana Rodakis, K4LK o (Glenn) Mike Fletcher, NI4M o Chuck Lavender, W4CLL * Demand new elections for existing directors in compliance with the bylaws. * Establish a bylaw committee to rewrite the bylaws and change the organization structure to better serve all amateurs in Florida. * Establish a development process for new policies from the membership * Encourage input from the membership based on sound technical policies * De-centralize coordination by having a web enabled database be accessible to the public showing all history of an application through coordination. * No one person should be the gatekeeper of the database. * Make all records of the FRC open to the public, as any non-profit serving the public interest must be.
I will make a motion to accomplish this at the next meeting at the Melbourne Hamfest meeting. To make this happen, I am asking for your proxy, if you’re a member of the FRC. You will need to print out this form and sign it, then send a scan or legible picture of it to me via email or text message. If you can attend the meeting, please do so.
It’s $10 to become a member on the FRC website and it buys the right to have a say in the future of amateur radio in Florida. http://florida-repeaters.org/donate.htm
I fully expect to be shouted down by the board, but as members we cannot be ignored. I wish to resolve this via the membership, but if ignored I do intend to comply the board, by any legal means, to follow the bylaws and FS 617.
I need your proxy by the Friday, October 7, 2016. 73’s and see you at Melbourne,
Bryan Fields, W9CR
P.S. Please feel free to discuss this on list. If you wish to not be a part of this discussion you can remove yourself using the link at the bottom. I'm happy to oblige your wishes via direct email as well if you have any questions.
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Take me off of this string email. It’s flooding my email box. Ken Wolfe, MSM, CEM Okaloosa County Public Safety Emergency Management 90 College Blvd E Niceville, FL 32578 Office: 850-651-7150 Please Note: Due to Florida’s very broad records laws, most written communications to or from County employees regariding County business are public records, available to the public and media upon request. Therefore, this written e-mail communication, including your e-mail address, may be subject to public disclosure. From: FRC-Info [mailto:frc-info-bounces@lists.keekles.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Fields Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2016 9:22 PM To: frc-info@lists.keekles.org Subject: [FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information Greetings and welcome to the Florida Repeater Discussion List, I am Bryan Fields, W9CR. I’m involved in amateur radio in the Tampa Bay area, with membership in four local clubs and chairman of the Technical Committee for my local group. Professionally I am a Network Architect with a major telecom company. I’ve been a licensed amateur since 1995 (over 2/3 of my life), hold a GROL+Radar and have a background in cellular/microwave networks. Fellow Amateurs, the FRC is an organization run amuck. Incompetent directors are managing it, flouting the bylaws, violating Florida Law, and ignoring member needs. I am asking for your proxy for the upcoming FRC meeting. It has failed in its ability to coordinate operations of amateur radio repeaters in the following ways: * Remove the current directors for gross incompetency and exposing the organization to liability: * Ray Kassis, N4LEM * Dana Rodakis, K4LK * (Glenn) Mike Fletcher, NI4M * Chuck Lavender, W4CLL * Demand new elections for existing directors in compliance with the bylaws. * Establish a bylaw committee to rewrite the bylaws and change the organization structure to better serve all amateurs in Florida. * Establish a development process for new policies from the membership * Encourage input from the membership based on sound technical policies * De-centralize coordination by having a web enabled database be accessible to the public showing all history of an application through coordination. * No one person should be the gatekeeper of the database. * Make all records of the FRC open to the public, as any non-profit serving the public interest must be. I will make a motion to accomplish this at the next meeting at the Melbourne Hamfest meeting. To make this happen, I am asking for your proxy, if you’re a member of the FRC. You will need to print out this form and sign it, then send a scan or legible picture of it to me via email or text message. If you can attend the meeting, please do so. It’s $10 to become a member on the FRC website and it buys the right to have a say in the future of amateur radio in Florida. http://florida-repeaters.org/donate.htm I fully expect to be shouted down by the board, but as members we cannot be ignored. I wish to resolve this via the membership, but if ignored I do intend to comply the board, by any legal means, to follow the bylaws and FS 617. I need your proxy by the Friday, October 7, 2016. 73’s and see you at Melbourne, Bryan Fields, W9CR P.S. Please feel free to discuss this on list. If you wish to not be a part of this discussion you can remove yourself using the link at the bottom. I'm happy to oblige your wishes via direct email as well if you have any questions.
Bryan, I ask have you built and maintained a repeater in Florida??? Not just set on a board in a club. I see nothing in your Ham resume that states this. Being a Network Architect qualifies you for little in repeaters and in electronics. I've worked with the FRC for over 20 years and find they do have problems, but for repeater coordination are one of the best I've seen. 73, ron, n9ee/r a know code Extra Ron Wright, N9EE/R BSEE Micro Computer Concepts 352-683-4476 mccrpt@tampabay.rr.com ________________________________ From: FRC-Info <frc-info-bounces@lists.keekles.org> on behalf of Bryan Fields <Bryan@bryanfields.net> Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2016 10:22 PM To: frc-info@lists.keekles.org Subject: [FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information Greetings and welcome to the Florida Repeater Discussion List, I am Bryan Fields, W9CR. I’m involved in amateur radio in the Tampa Bay area, with membership in four local clubs and chairman of the Technical Committee for my local group. Professionally I am a Network Architect with a major telecom company. I’ve been a licensed amateur since 1995 (over 2/3 of my life), hold a GROL+Radar and have a background in cellular/microwave networks. Fellow Amateurs, the FRC is an organization run amuck. Incompetent directors are managing it, flouting the bylaws, violating Florida Law, and ignoring member needs. I am asking for your proxy for the upcoming FRC meeting. It has failed in its ability to coordinate operations of amateur radio repeaters in the following ways: * Publication of the FRC database on a public website * This database dump in MySQL format and the associated webpages show without a doubt the level of incompetency in the programming behind the database. This is nothing but gross negligence on the part of Director Rodakis and Director Lavender. * Per the coordination policy, locations are to be kept secret, however a Reddit user was kind enough to post a Google earth KML showing the coordinated location of every repeater in the state. * All your personal data, phone, email, home address, repeater site address and Repeater Site GPS coordinates are published. * Length of the coordination process is unacceptable! * As of this writing coordination applications post 1/25/2016 have not been processed. It’s October! * If the coordinator cannot process applications in a reasonable time, he needs to step down. * Renewals have not been processed post 5/7/2016! As most coordinations expire on 9/30/2016, this means no members may vote under the bylaws! This applies to the board as well. * Violation of the coordination policy by the directors * Willful violation of the bylaws by the directors * Willful violations of FS 617 regarding members request for information * Acknowledged receipt of this by President Kassis * Publicly stating the policy of the FRC is “is unable to search for available frequencies”, when this is the FCC definition of a frequency coordinator. * When they do suggest frequencies there active repeaters on them, some even coordinated well under the radius. * Inventing new coordination polices on the fly without approval of the board The FRC must be reformed if it wishes to keep its legitimacy. Frequency coordination is voluntary in amateur radio, and there is little reason for amateur radio operators in Florida to seek coordination from the FRC under this current administration. My goal is to transform this organization into a healthy helping hand for repeater operators and other amateur spectrum users. No one should be answered with contempt for months after putting an application in for coordination only to be told “fill it out again, we can’t edit it”. This should not be an organization which exists as a good-ol’-boy system breading contempt; rather one which operates in the open, in accordance with its bylaws, and accountable to its members. The FRC should ask how to say “Yes” rather than saying “No” in working with their members and other amateurs. •• •••• •• ••• •• •• ••• ••••• ••••• ••• * Remove the current directors for gross incompetency and exposing the organization to liability: * Ray Kassis, N4LEM * Dana Rodakis, K4LK * (Glenn) Mike Fletcher, NI4M * Chuck Lavender, W4CLL * Demand new elections for existing directors in compliance with the bylaws. * Establish a bylaw committee to rewrite the bylaws and change the organization structure to better serve all amateurs in Florida. * Establish a development process for new policies from the membership * Encourage input from the membership based on sound technical policies * De-centralize coordination by having a web enabled database be accessible to the public showing all history of an application through coordination. * No one person should be the gatekeeper of the database. * Make all records of the FRC open to the public, as any non-profit serving the public interest must be. I will make a motion to accomplish this at the next meeting at the Melbourne Hamfest meeting. To make this happen, I am asking for your proxy, if you’re a member of the FRC. You will need to print out this form and sign it, then send a scan or legible picture of it to me via email or text message. If you can attend the meeting, please do so. It’s $10 to become a member on the FRC website and it buys the right to have a say in the future of amateur radio in Florida. http://florida-repeaters.org/donate.htm How to become a member of the Florida Repeater Council<http://florida-repeaters.org/donate.htm> florida-repeaters.org We must make it clear that it is NOT necessary to donate to receive the services of this A.R.R.L.-recognized agency for Florida amateur repeater coordination. I fully expect to be shouted down by the board, but as members we cannot be ignored. I wish to resolve this via the membership, but if ignored I do intend to comply the board, by any legal means, to follow the bylaws and FS 617. I need your proxy by the Friday, October 7, 2016. 73’s and see you at Melbourne, Bryan Fields, W9CR P.S. Please feel free to discuss this on list. If you wish to not be a part of this discussion you can remove yourself using the link at the bottom. I'm happy to oblige your wishes via direct email as well if you have any questions.
Please remove my email from you database.John Blaisdell - W4CJB Walton Co., NFL ARES EC On Monday, October 3, 2016 8:17 AM, "mccrpt@tampabay.rr.com" <mccrpt@tampabay.rr.com> wrote: #yiv4499730026 #yiv4499730026 -- P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}#yiv4499730026 Bryan, I ask have you built and maintained a repeater in Florida??? Not just set on a board in a club. I see nothing in your Ham resume that states this. Being a Network Architect qualifies you for little in repeaters and in electronics. I've worked with the FRC for over 20 years and find they do have problems, but for repeater coordination are one of the best I've seen. 73, ron, n9ee/r a know code Extra Ron Wright, N9EE/RBSEEMicro Computer Concepts352-683-4476mccrpt@tampabay.rr.com From: FRC-Info <frc-info-bounces@lists.keekles.org> on behalf of Bryan Fields <Bryan@bryanfields.net> Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2016 10:22 PM To: frc-info@lists.keekles.org Subject: [FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information Greetings and welcome to the Florida Repeater Discussion List, I am Bryan Fields, W9CR. I’m involved in amateur radio in the Tampa Bay area, with membership in four local clubs and chairman of the Technical Committee for my local group. Professionally I am a Network Architect with a major telecom company. I’ve been a licensed amateur since 1995 (over 2/3 of my life), hold a GROL+Radar and have a background in cellular/microwave networks. Fellow Amateurs, the FRC is an organization run amuck. Incompetent directors are managing it, flouting the bylaws, violating Florida Law, and ignoring member needs. I am asking for your proxy for the upcoming FRC meeting. It has failed in its ability to coordinate operations of amateur radio repeaters in the following ways: - Publication of the FRC database on a public website - This database dump in MySQL format and the associated webpages show without a doubt the level of incompetency in the programming behind the database. This is nothing but gross negligence on the part of Director Rodakis and Director Lavender. - Per the coordination policy, locations are to be kept secret, however a Reddit user was kind enough to post a Google earth KML showing the coordinated location of every repeater in the state. - All your personal data, phone, email, home address, repeater site address and Repeater Site GPS coordinates are published. - Length of the coordination process is unacceptable! - As of this writing coordination applications post 1/25/2016 have not been processed. It’s October! - If the coordinator cannot process applications in a reasonable time, he needs to step down. - Renewals have not been processed post 5/7/2016! As most coordinations expire on 9/30/2016, this means no members may vote under the bylaws! This applies to the board as well. - Violation of the coordination policy by the directors - Willful violation of the bylaws by the directors - Willful violations of FS 617 regarding members request for information - Acknowledged receipt of this by President Kassis - Publicly stating the policy of the FRC is “is unable to search for available frequencies”, when this is the FCC definition of a frequency coordinator. - When they do suggest frequencies there active repeaters on them, some even coordinated well under the radius. - Inventing new coordination polices on the fly without approval of the board The FRC must be reformed if it wishes to keep its legitimacy. Frequency coordination is voluntary in amateur radio, and there is little reason for amateur radio operators in Florida to seek coordination from the FRC under this current administration. My goal is to transform this organization into a healthy helping hand for repeater operators and other amateur spectrum users. No one should be answered with contempt for months after putting an application in for coordination only to be told “fill it out again, we can’t edit it”. This should not be an organization which exists as a good-ol’-boy system breading contempt; rather one which operates in the open, in accordance with its bylaws, and accountable to its members. The FRC should ask how to say “Yes” rather than saying “No” in working with their members and other amateurs. My plan to get us on the right track is: - Remove the current directors for gross incompetency and exposing the organization to liability: - Ray Kassis, N4LEM - Dana Rodakis, K4LK - (Glenn) Mike Fletcher, NI4M - Chuck Lavender, W4CLL - Demand new elections for existing directors in compliance with the bylaws. - Establish a bylaw committee to rewrite the bylaws and change the organization structure to better serve all amateurs in Florida. - Establish a development process for new policies from the membership - Encourage input from the membership based on sound technical policies - De-centralize coordination by having a web enabled database be accessible to the public showing all history of an application through coordination. - No one person should be the gatekeeper of the database. - Make all records of the FRC open to the public, as any non-profit serving the public interest must be. I will make a motion to accomplish this at the next meeting at the Melbourne Hamfest meeting. To make this happen, I am asking for your proxy, if you’re a member of the FRC. You will need to print out this form and sign it, then send a scan or legible picture of it to me via email or text message. If you can attend the meeting, please do so. It’s $10 to become a member on the FRC website and it buys the right to have a say in the future of amateur radio in Florida. http://florida-repeaters.org/donate.htm | How to become a member of the Florida Repeater Councilflorida-repeaters.orgWe must make it clear that it is NOT necessary to donate to receive the services of this A.R.R.L.-recognized agency for Florida amateur repeater coordination. | I fully expect to be shouted down by the board, but as members we cannot be ignored. I wish to resolve this via the membership, but if ignored I do intend to comply the board, by any legal means, to follow the bylaws and FS 617. I need your proxy by the Friday, October 7, 2016. 73’s and see you at Melbourne, Bryan Fields, W9CR P.S. Please feel free to discuss this on list. If you wish to not be a part of this discussion you can remove yourself using the link at the bottom. I'm happy to oblige your wishes via direct email as well if you have any questions. _______________________________________________ FRC-Info mailing list FRC-Info@lists.keekles.org http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info
To Bryan Fields
From Michael Wolf re: FRC
I did not ask to be on the discussion group nor did I appreciate the emails. I do agree that the things might need to be improved with the FRC however i DO NOT wish to recieve any more emails. Please REMOVE me from this disscussion group and please DO NOT .. I repeat DO NOT SEND ANY MORE EMAILS REGARDING THIS. I will be up in Melbourne and will hopefully attend the FRC meeting. Thank you ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Fields" <Bryan@bryanfields.net> To: frc-info@lists.keekles.org Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2016 10:22:22 PM Subject: [FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information Greetings and welcome to the Florida Repeater Discussion List, I am Bryan Fields, W9CR. I’m involved in amateur radio in the Tampa Bay area, with membership in four local clubs and chairman of the Technical Committee for my local group. Professionally I am a Network Architect with a major telecom company. I’ve been a licensed amateur since 1995 (over 2/3 of my life), hold a GROL+Radar and have a background in cellular/microwave networks. Fellow Amateurs, the FRC is an organization run amuck. Incompetent directors are managing it, flouting the bylaws, violating Florida Law, and ignoring member needs. I am asking for your proxy for the upcoming FRC meeting. It has failed in its ability to coordinate operations of amateur radio repeaters in the following ways: * Publication of the FRC database on a public website * This database dump in MySQL format and the associated webpages show without a doubt the level of incompetency in the programming behind the database. This is nothing but gross negligence on the part of Director Rodakis and Director Lavender. * Per the coordination policy, locations are to be kept secret, however a Reddit user was kind enough to post a Google earth KML showing the coordinated location of every repeater in the state. * All your personal data, phone, email, home address, repeater site address and Repeater Site GPS coordinates are published. * Length of the coordination process is unacceptable! * As of this writing coordination applications post 1/25/2016 have not been processed. It’s October ! * If the coordinator cannot process applications in a reasonable time, he needs to step down. * Renewals have not been processed post 5/7/2016! As most coordinations expire on 9/30/2016, this means no members may vote under the bylaws! This applies to the board as well. * Violation of the coordination policy by the directors * Willful violation of the bylaws by the directors * Willful violations of FS 617 regarding members request for information * Acknowledged receipt of this by President Kassis * Publicly stating the policy of the FRC is “is unable to search for available frequencies”, when this is the FCC definition of a frequency coordinator. * When they do suggest frequencies there active repeaters on them, some even coordinated well under the radius. * Inventing new coordination polices on the fly without approval of the board The FRC must be reformed if it wishes to keep its legitimacy. Frequency coordination is voluntary in amateur radio, and there is little reason for amateur radio operators in Florida to seek coordination from the FRC under this current administration. My goal is to transform this organization into a healthy helping hand for repeater operators and other amateur spectrum users. No one should be answered with contempt for months after putting an application in for coordination only to be told “fill it out again, we can’t edit it”. This should not be an organization which exists as a good-ol’-boy system breading contempt; rather one which operates in the open, in accordance with its bylaws, and accountable to its members. The FRC should ask how to say “Yes” rather than saying “No” in working with their members and other amateurs. My plan to get us on the right track is: * Remove the current directors for gross incompetency and exposing the organization to liability: * Ray Kassis, N4LEM * Dana Rodakis, K4LK * (Glenn) Mike Fletcher, NI4M * Chuck Lavender, W4CLL * Demand new elections for existing directors in compliance with the bylaws. * Establish a bylaw committee to rewrite the bylaws and change the organization structure to better serve all amateurs in Florida. * Establish a development process for new policies from the membership * Encourage input from the membership based on sound technical policies * De-centralize coordination by having a web enabled database be accessible to the public showing all history of an application through coordination. * No one person should be the gatekeeper of the database. * Make all records of the FRC open to the public, as any non-profit serving the public interest must be. I will make a motion to accomplish this at the next meeting at the Melbourne Hamfest meeting. To make this happen, I am asking for your proxy, if you’re a member of the FRC. You will need to print out this form and sign it, then send a scan or legible picture of it to me via email or text message. If you can attend the meeting, please do so. It’s $10 to become a member on the FRC website and it buys the right to have a say in the future of amateur radio in Florida. http://florida-repeaters.org/donate.htm I fully expect to be shouted down by the board, but as members we cannot be ignored. I wish to resolve this via the membership, but if ignored I do intend to comply the board, by any legal means, to follow the bylaws and FS 617. I need your proxy by the Friday, October 7, 2016. 73’s and see you at Melbourne, Bryan Fields, W9CR P.S. Please feel free to discuss this on list. If you wish to not be a part of this discussion you can remove yourself using the link at the bottom. I'm happy to oblige your wishes via direct email as well if you have any questions. _______________________________________________ FRC-Info mailing list FRC-Info@lists.keekles.org http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info
Holy Crap ! If people get this irate about a few eMails, no wonder they get irate at the FRC ! The FRC has been difficult to work with, at times, and other times it has been just what I would expect from a bunch of volunteers who are trying their best to serve the repeater community. Give them a break, and let’s not continue here... Come to Melbourne and voice your problems and support there at the FRC forum. 73, PeteR N8PR PS: YA DON”T NEED TO SHOUT IN YOUR EMAILS – this is not life or death or even Field Day ! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I did not ask to be on the discussion group nor did I appreciate the emails. I do agree that the things might need to be improved with the FRC however i DO NOT wish to recieve any more emails. Please REMOVE me from this disscussion group and please DO NOT .. I repeat DO NOT SEND ANY MORE EMAILS REGARDING THIS.
?????????????????????? From: Pete Rimmel N8PR <n8pr@bellsouth.net> To: Florida Repeater Council Discussion <frc-info@lists.keekles.org> Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 3:24 PM Subject: Re: [FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information Holy Crap ! If people get this irate about a few eMails, no wonder they get irate at the FRC ! The FRC has been difficult to work with, at times, and other times it has been just what I would expect from a bunch of volunteers who are trying their best to serve the repeater community. Give them a break, and let’s not continue here... Come to Melbourne and voice your problems and support there at the FRC forum.73, PeteR N8PR PS: YA DON”T NEED TO SHOUT IN YOUR EMAILS – this is not life or death or even Field Day ! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I did not ask to be on the discussion group nor did I appreciate the emails.I do agree that the things might need to be improved with the FRC howeveri DO NOT wish to recieve any more emails. Please REMOVE me from this disscussion group and please DO NOT .. I repeat DO NOT SEND ANY MORE EMAILS REGARDING THIS. _______________________________________________ FRC-Info mailing list FRC-Info@lists.keekles.org http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info
By the way... they are self elected. In order to get rid of them, it must be by elections. The president is elected by the Directors. we can discuss further at another time. 73 w4hn Nilo A. Hernandez, M.S. Personal: HernandezNilo@gmail.com AARP: nhernandez@aarp.org 305-219-2252 *Confidentiality Notice*: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 2:58 PM, <k2hxc@comcast.net> wrote:
To Bryan Fields From Michael Wolf re: FRC
I did not ask to be on the discussion group nor did I appreciate the emails. I do agree that the things might need to be improved with the FRC however i DO NOT wish to recieve any more emails. Please REMOVE me from this disscussion group and please DO NOT .. I repeat DO NOT SEND ANY MORE EMAILS REGARDING THIS. I will be up in Melbourne and will hopefully attend the FRC meeting. Thank you
------------------------------ *From: *"Bryan Fields" <Bryan@bryanfields.net> *To: *frc-info@lists.keekles.org *Sent: *Sunday, October 2, 2016 10:22:22 PM *Subject: *[FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information
Greetings and welcome to the Florida Repeater Discussion List,
I am Bryan Fields, W9CR.
I’m involved in amateur radio in the Tampa Bay area, with membership in four local clubs and chairman of the Technical Committee for my local group.
Professionally I am a Network Architect with a major telecom company. I’ve been a licensed amateur since 1995 (over 2/3 of my life), hold a GROL+Radar and have a background in cellular/microwave networks.
Fellow Amateurs, the FRC is an organization run amuck. Incompetent directors are managing it, flouting the bylaws, violating Florida Law, and ignoring member needs. I am asking for your proxy for the upcoming FRC meeting.
It has failed in its ability to coordinate operations of amateur radio repeaters in the following ways:
- Publication of the FRC database on a public website - This database dump in MySQL format and the associated webpages show without a doubt the level of incompetency in the programming behind the database. This is nothing but gross negligence on the part of Director Rodakis and Director Lavender. - Per the coordination policy, locations are to be kept secret, however a Reddit user was kind enough to post a Google earth KML showing the coordinated location of every repeater in the state. - All your personal data, phone, email, home address, repeater site address and Repeater Site GPS coordinates are published.
- Length of the coordination process is unacceptable! - As of this writing coordination applications post 1/25/2016 have not been processed. It’s *October*! - If the coordinator cannot process applications in a reasonable time, he needs to step down. - Renewals have not been processed post 5/7/2016! As most coordinations expire on 9/30/2016, this means no members may vote under the bylaws! This applies to the board as well.
- Violation of the coordination policy by the directors - Willful violation of the bylaws by the directors - Willful violations of FS 617 regarding members request for information - Acknowledged receipt of this by President Kassis - Publicly stating the policy of the FRC is “is unable to search for available frequencies”, when this is the FCC definition of a frequency coordinator. - When they do suggest frequencies there active repeaters on them, some even coordinated well under the radius. - Inventing new coordination polices on the fly without approval of the board
The FRC must be reformed if it wishes to keep its legitimacy. Frequency coordination is voluntary in amateur radio, and there is little reason for amateur radio operators in Florida to seek coordination from the FRC under this current administration.
My goal is to transform this organization into a healthy helping hand for repeater operators and other amateur spectrum users. No one should be answered with contempt for months after putting an application in for coordination only to be told “fill it out again, we can’t edit it”. This should not be an organization which exists as a good-ol’-boy system breading contempt; rather one which operates in the open, in accordance with its bylaws, and accountable to its members.
The FRC should ask how to say “Yes” rather than saying “No” in working with their members and other amateurs.
My plan to get us on the right track is:
- Remove the current directors for gross incompetency and exposing the organization to liability: - Ray Kassis, N4LEM - Dana Rodakis, K4LK - (Glenn) Mike Fletcher, NI4M - Chuck Lavender, W4CLL - Demand new elections for existing directors in compliance with the bylaws. - Establish a bylaw committee to rewrite the bylaws and change the organization structure to better serve all amateurs in Florida. - Establish a development process for new policies from the membership - Encourage input from the membership based on sound technical policies - De-centralize coordination by having a web enabled database be accessible to the public showing all history of an application through coordination. - No one person should be the gatekeeper of the database. - Make all records of the FRC open to the public, as any non-profit serving the public interest must be.
I will make a motion to accomplish this at the next meeting at the Melbourne Hamfest meeting. To make this happen, I am asking for your proxy, if you’re a member of the FRC. You will need to print out this form and sign it, then send a scan or legible picture of it to me via email or text message. If you can attend the meeting, please do so.
It’s $10 to become a member on the FRC website and it buys the right to have a say in the future of amateur radio in Florida.
http://florida-repeaters.org/donate.htm
I fully expect to be shouted down by the board, but as members we cannot be ignored. I wish to resolve this via the membership, but if ignored I do intend to comply the board, by any legal means, to follow the bylaws and FS 617.
I need your proxy by the Friday, October 7, 2016.
73’s and see you at Melbourne,
Bryan Fields, W9CR
P.S. Please feel free to discuss this on list. If you wish to not be a part of this discussion you can remove yourself using the link at the bottom. I'm happy to oblige your wishes via direct email as well if you have any questions.
_______________________________________________ FRC-Info mailing list FRC-Info@lists.keekles.org http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info
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?????????????????????????? From: Nilo Hernandez <hernandeznilo@gmail.com> To: Florida Repeater Council Discussion <frc-info@lists.keekles.org> Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information By the way... they are self elected. In order to get rid of them, it must be by elections. The president is elected by the Directors. we can discuss further at another time. 73w4hn Nilo A. Hernandez, M.S. Personal: HernandezNilo@gmail.comAARP: nhernandez@aarp.org 305-219-2252 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 2:58 PM, <k2hxc@comcast.net> wrote: To Bryan FieldsFrom Michael Wolfre: FRC I did not ask to be on the discussion group nor did I appreciate the emails.I do agree that the things might need to be improved with the FRC howeveri DO NOT wish to recieve any more emails. Please REMOVE me from this disscussion group and please DO NOT .. I repeat DO NOT SEND ANY MORE EMAILS REGARDING THIS.I will be up in Melbourne and will hopefully attend the FRC meeting.Thank you From: "Bryan Fields" <Bryan@bryanfields.net> To: frc-info@lists.keekles.org Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2016 10:22:22 PM Subject: [FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information Greetings and welcome to the Florida Repeater Discussion List, I am Bryan Fields, W9CR. I’m involved in amateur radio in the Tampa Bay area, with membership in four local clubs and chairman of the Technical Committee for my local group. Professionally I am a Network Architect with a major telecom company. I’ve been a licensed amateur since 1995 (over 2/3 of my life), hold a GROL+Radar and have a background in cellular/microwave networks. Fellow Amateurs, the FRC is an organization run amuck. Incompetent directors are managing it, flouting the bylaws, violating Florida Law, and ignoring member needs. I am asking for your proxy for the upcoming FRC meeting. It has failed in its ability to coordinate operations of amateur radio repeaters in the following ways: - Publication of the FRC database on a public website - This database dump in MySQL format and the associated webpages show without a doubt the level of incompetency in the programming behind the database. This is nothing but gross negligence on the part of Director Rodakis and Director Lavender. - Per the coordination policy, locations are to be kept secret, however a Reddit user was kind enough to post a Google earth KML showing the coordinated location of every repeater in the state. - All your personal data, phone, email, home address, repeater site address and Repeater Site GPS coordinates are published. - Length of the coordination process is unacceptable! - As of this writing coordination applications post 1/25/2016 have not been processed. It’s October! - If the coordinator cannot process applications in a reasonable time, he needs to step down. - Renewals have not been processed post 5/7/2016! As most coordinations expire on 9/30/2016, this means no members may vote under the bylaws! This applies to the board as well. - Violation of the coordination policy by the directors - Willful violation of the bylaws by the directors - Willful violations of FS 617 regarding members request for information - Acknowledged receipt of this by President Kassis - Publicly stating the policy of the FRC is “is unable to search for available frequencies”, when this is the FCC definition of a frequency coordinator. - When they do suggest frequencies there active repeaters on them, some even coordinated well under the radius. - Inventing new coordination polices on the fly without approval of the board The FRC must be reformed if it wishes to keep its legitimacy. Frequency coordination is voluntary in amateur radio, and there is little reason for amateur radio operators in Florida to seek coordination from the FRC under this current administration. My goal is to transform this organization into a healthy helping hand for repeater operators and other amateur spectrum users. No one should be answered with contempt for months after putting an application in for coordination only to be told “fill it out again, we can’t edit it”. This should not be an organization which exists as a good-ol’-boy system breading contempt; rather one which operates in the open, in accordance with its bylaws, and accountable to its members. The FRC should ask how to say “Yes” rather than saying “No” in working with their members and other amateurs. My plan to get us on the right track is: - Remove the current directors for gross incompetency and exposing the organization to liability: - Ray Kassis, N4LEM - Dana Rodakis, K4LK - (Glenn) Mike Fletcher, NI4M - Chuck Lavender, W4CLL - Demand new elections for existing directors in compliance with the bylaws. - Establish a bylaw committee to rewrite the bylaws and change the organization structure to better serve all amateurs in Florida. - Establish a development process for new policies from the membership - Encourage input from the membership based on sound technical policies - De-centralize coordination by having a web enabled database be accessible to the public showing all history of an application through coordination. - No one person should be the gatekeeper of the database. - Make all records of the FRC open to the public, as any non-profit serving the public interest must be. I will make a motion to accomplish this at the next meeting at the Melbourne Hamfest meeting. To make this happen, I am asking for your proxy, if you’re a member of the FRC. You will need to print out this form and sign it, then send a scan or legible picture of it to me via email or text message. If you can attend the meeting, please do so. It’s $10 to become a member on the FRC website and it buys the right to have a say in the future of amateur radio in Florida. http://florida-repeaters.org/ donate.htm I fully expect to be shouted down by the board, but as members we cannot be ignored. I wish to resolve this via the membership, but if ignored I do intend to comply the board, by any legal means, to follow the bylaws and FS 617. I need your proxy by the Friday, October 7, 2016. 73’s and see you at Melbourne, Bryan Fields, W9CR P.S. Please feel free to discuss this on list. If you wish to not be a part of this discussion you can remove yourself using the link at the bottom. I'm happy to oblige your wishes via direct email as well if you have any questions. ______________________________ _________________ FRC-Info mailing list FRC-Info@lists.keekles.org http://lists.keekles.org/cgi- bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info ______________________________ _________________ FRC-Info mailing list FRC-Info@lists.keekles.org http://lists.keekles.org/cgi- bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info _______________________________________________ FRC-Info mailing list FRC-Info@lists.keekles.org http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info
So Michael why are you sending me this ? On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 2:58 PM, <k2hxc@comcast.net> wrote:
To Bryan Fields From Michael Wolf re: FRC
I did not ask to be on the discussion group nor did I appreciate the emails. I do agree that the things might need to be improved with the FRC however i DO NOT wish to recieve any more emails. Please REMOVE me from this disscussion group and please DO NOT .. I repeat DO NOT SEND ANY MORE EMAILS REGARDING THIS. I will be up in Melbourne and will hopefully attend the FRC meeting. Thank you
------------------------------ *From: *"Bryan Fields" <Bryan@bryanfields.net> *To: *frc-info@lists.keekles.org *Sent: *Sunday, October 2, 2016 10:22:22 PM *Subject: *[FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information
Greetings and welcome to the Florida Repeater Discussion List,
I am Bryan Fields, W9CR.
I’m involved in amateur radio in the Tampa Bay area, with membership in four local clubs and chairman of the Technical Committee for my local group.
Professionally I am a Network Architect with a major telecom company. I’ve been a licensed amateur since 1995 (over 2/3 of my life), hold a GROL+Radar and have a background in cellular/microwave networks.
Fellow Amateurs, the FRC is an organization run amuck. Incompetent directors are managing it, flouting the bylaws, violating Florida Law, and ignoring member needs. I am asking for your proxy for the upcoming FRC meeting.
It has failed in its ability to coordinate operations of amateur radio repeaters in the following ways:
- Publication of the FRC database on a public website - This database dump in MySQL format and the associated webpages show without a doubt the level of incompetency in the programming behind the database. This is nothing but gross negligence on the part of Director Rodakis and Director Lavender. - Per the coordination policy, locations are to be kept secret, however a Reddit user was kind enough to post a Google earth KML showing the coordinated location of every repeater in the state. - All your personal data, phone, email, home address, repeater site address and Repeater Site GPS coordinates are published.
- Length of the coordination process is unacceptable! - As of this writing coordination applications post 1/25/2016 have not been processed. It’s *October*! - If the coordinator cannot process applications in a reasonable time, he needs to step down. - Renewals have not been processed post 5/7/2016! As most coordinations expire on 9/30/2016, this means no members may vote under the bylaws! This applies to the board as well.
- Violation of the coordination policy by the directors - Willful violation of the bylaws by the directors - Willful violations of FS 617 regarding members request for information - Acknowledged receipt of this by President Kassis - Publicly stating the policy of the FRC is “is unable to search for available frequencies”, when this is the FCC definition of a frequency coordinator. - When they do suggest frequencies there active repeaters on them, some even coordinated well under the radius. - Inventing new coordination polices on the fly without approval of the board
The FRC must be reformed if it wishes to keep its legitimacy. Frequency coordination is voluntary in amateur radio, and there is little reason for amateur radio operators in Florida to seek coordination from the FRC under this current administration.
My goal is to transform this organization into a healthy helping hand for repeater operators and other amateur spectrum users. No one should be answered with contempt for months after putting an application in for coordination only to be told “fill it out again, we can’t edit it”. This should not be an organization which exists as a good-ol’-boy system breading contempt; rather one which operates in the open, in accordance with its bylaws, and accountable to its members.
The FRC should ask how to say “Yes” rather than saying “No” in working with their members and other amateurs.
My plan to get us on the right track is:
- Remove the current directors for gross incompetency and exposing the organization to liability: - Ray Kassis, N4LEM - Dana Rodakis, K4LK - (Glenn) Mike Fletcher, NI4M - Chuck Lavender, W4CLL - Demand new elections for existing directors in compliance with the bylaws. - Establish a bylaw committee to rewrite the bylaws and change the organization structure to better serve all amateurs in Florida. - Establish a development process for new policies from the membership - Encourage input from the membership based on sound technical policies - De-centralize coordination by having a web enabled database be accessible to the public showing all history of an application through coordination. - No one person should be the gatekeeper of the database. - Make all records of the FRC open to the public, as any non-profit serving the public interest must be.
I will make a motion to accomplish this at the next meeting at the Melbourne Hamfest meeting. To make this happen, I am asking for your proxy, if you’re a member of the FRC. You will need to print out this form and sign it, then send a scan or legible picture of it to me via email or text message. If you can attend the meeting, please do so.
It’s $10 to become a member on the FRC website and it buys the right to have a say in the future of amateur radio in Florida.
http://florida-repeaters.org/donate.htm
I fully expect to be shouted down by the board, but as members we cannot be ignored. I wish to resolve this via the membership, but if ignored I do intend to comply the board, by any legal means, to follow the bylaws and FS 617.
I need your proxy by the Friday, October 7, 2016.
73’s and see you at Melbourne,
Bryan Fields, W9CR
P.S. Please feel free to discuss this on list. If you wish to not be a part of this discussion you can remove yourself using the link at the bottom. I'm happy to oblige your wishes via direct email as well if you have any questions.
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???????????????????????? From: "k2hxc@comcast.net" <k2hxc@comcast.net> To: Florida Repeater Council Discussion <frc-info@lists.keekles.org> Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information To Bryan FieldsFrom Michael Wolfre: FRC I did not ask to be on the discussion group nor did I appreciate the emails.I do agree that the things might need to be improved with the FRC howeveri DO NOT wish to recieve any more emails. Please REMOVE me from this disscussion group and please DO NOT .. I repeat DO NOT SEND ANY MORE EMAILS REGARDING THIS.I will be up in Melbourne and will hopefully attend the FRC meeting.Thank you From: "Bryan Fields" <Bryan@bryanfields.net> To: frc-info@lists.keekles.org Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2016 10:22:22 PM Subject: [FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information Greetings and welcome to the Florida Repeater Discussion List, I am Bryan Fields, W9CR. I’m involved in amateur radio in the Tampa Bay area, with membership in four local clubs and chairman of the Technical Committee for my local group. Professionally I am a Network Architect with a major telecom company. I’ve been a licensed amateur since 1995 (over 2/3 of my life), hold a GROL+Radar and have a background in cellular/microwave networks. Fellow Amateurs, the FRC is an organization run amuck. Incompetent directors are managing it, flouting the bylaws, violating Florida Law, and ignoring member needs. I am asking for your proxy for the upcoming FRC meeting. It has failed in its ability to coordinate operations of amateur radio repeaters in the following ways: - Publication of the FRC database on a public website - This database dump in MySQL format and the associated webpages show without a doubt the level of incompetency in the programming behind the database. This is nothing but gross negligence on the part of Director Rodakis and Director Lavender. - Per the coordination policy, locations are to be kept secret, however a Reddit user was kind enough to post a Google earth KML showing the coordinated location of every repeater in the state. - All your personal data, phone, email, home address, repeater site address and Repeater Site GPS coordinates are published. - Length of the coordination process is unacceptable! - As of this writing coordination applications post 1/25/2016 have not been processed. It’s October! - If the coordinator cannot process applications in a reasonable time, he needs to step down. - Renewals have not been processed post 5/7/2016! As most coordinations expire on 9/30/2016, this means no members may vote under the bylaws! This applies to the board as well. - Violation of the coordination policy by the directors - Willful violation of the bylaws by the directors - Willful violations of FS 617 regarding members request for information - Acknowledged receipt of this by President Kassis - Publicly stating the policy of the FRC is “is unable to search for available frequencies”, when this is the FCC definition of a frequency coordinator. - When they do suggest frequencies there active repeaters on them, some even coordinated well under the radius. - Inventing new coordination polices on the fly without approval of the board The FRC must be reformed if it wishes to keep its legitimacy. Frequency coordination is voluntary in amateur radio, and there is little reason for amateur radio operators in Florida to seek coordination from the FRC under this current administration. My goal is to transform this organization into a healthy helping hand for repeater operators and other amateur spectrum users. No one should be answered with contempt for months after putting an application in for coordination only to be told “fill it out again, we can’t edit it”. This should not be an organization which exists as a good-ol’-boy system breading contempt; rather one which operates in the open, in accordance with its bylaws, and accountable to its members. The FRC should ask how to say “Yes” rather than saying “No” in working with their members and other amateurs. My plan to get us on the right track is: - Remove the current directors for gross incompetency and exposing the organization to liability: - Ray Kassis, N4LEM - Dana Rodakis, K4LK - (Glenn) Mike Fletcher, NI4M - Chuck Lavender, W4CLL - Demand new elections for existing directors in compliance with the bylaws. - Establish a bylaw committee to rewrite the bylaws and change the organization structure to better serve all amateurs in Florida. - Establish a development process for new policies from the membership - Encourage input from the membership based on sound technical policies - De-centralize coordination by having a web enabled database be accessible to the public showing all history of an application through coordination. - No one person should be the gatekeeper of the database. - Make all records of the FRC open to the public, as any non-profit serving the public interest must be. I will make a motion to accomplish this at the next meeting at the Melbourne Hamfest meeting. To make this happen, I am asking for your proxy, if you’re a member of the FRC. You will need to print out this form and sign it, then send a scan or legible picture of it to me via email or text message. If you can attend the meeting, please do so. It’s $10 to become a member on the FRC website and it buys the right to have a say in the future of amateur radio in Florida. http://florida-repeaters.org/donate.htm I fully expect to be shouted down by the board, but as members we cannot be ignored. I wish to resolve this via the membership, but if ignored I do intend to comply the board, by any legal means, to follow the bylaws and FS 617. I need your proxy by the Friday, October 7, 2016. 73’s and see you at Melbourne, Bryan Fields, W9CR P.S. Please feel free to discuss this on list. If you wish to not be a part of this discussion you can remove yourself using the link at the bottom. I'm happy to oblige your wishes via direct email as well if you have any questions. _______________________________________________ FRC-Info mailing list FRC-Info@lists.keekles.org http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info _______________________________________________ FRC-Info mailing list FRC-Info@lists.keekles.org http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info
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I’m involved in amateur radio in the Tampa Bay area, with membership in four local clubs and chairman of the Technical Committee for my local group. Professionally I am a Network Architect with a major telecom company. I’ve been a licensed amateur since 1995 (over 2/3 of my life), hold a GROL+Radar and have a background in cellular/microwave networks. Fellow Amateurs, the FRC is an organization run amuck. Incompetent directors are managing it, flouting the bylaws, violating Florida Law, and ignoring member needs. I am asking for your proxy for the upcoming FRC meeting. It has failed in its ability to coordinate operations of amateur radio repeaters in the following ways: - Publication of the FRC database on a public website - This database dump in MySQL format and the associated webpages show without a doubt the level of incompetency in the programming behind the database. This is nothing but gross negligence on the part of Director Rodakis and Director Lavender. - Per the coordination policy, locations are to be kept secret, however a Reddit user was kind enough to post a Google earth KML showing the coordinated location of every repeater in the state. - All your personal data, phone, email, home address, repeater site address and Repeater Site GPS coordinates are published. - Length of the coordination process is unacceptable! - As of this writing coordination applications post 1/25/2016 have not been processed. It’s October! - If the coordinator cannot process applications in a reasonable time, he needs to step down. - Renewals have not been processed post 5/7/2016! As most coordinations expire on 9/30/2016, this means no members may vote under the bylaws! This applies to the board as well. - Violation of the coordination policy by the directors - Willful violation of the bylaws by the directors - Willful violations of FS 617 regarding members request for information - Acknowledged receipt of this by President Kassis - Publicly stating the policy of the FRC is “is unable to search for available frequencies”, when this is the FCC definition of a frequency coordinator. - When they do suggest frequencies there active repeaters on them, some even coordinated well under the radius. - Inventing new coordination polices on the fly without approval of the board The FRC must be reformed if it wishes to keep its legitimacy. Frequency coordination is voluntary in amateur radio, and there is little reason for amateur radio operators in Florida to seek coordination from the FRC under this current administration. My goal is to transform this organization into a healthy helping hand for repeater operators and other amateur spectrum users. No one should be answered with contempt for months after putting an application in for coordination only to be told “fill it out again, we can’t edit it”. This should not be an organization which exists as a good-ol’-boy system breading contempt; rather one which operates in the open, in accordance with its bylaws, and accountable to its members. The FRC should ask how to say “Yes” rather than saying “No” in working with their members and other amateurs. My plan to get us on the right track is: - Remove the current directors for gross incompetency and exposing the organization to liability: - Ray Kassis, N4LEM - Dana Rodakis, K4LK - (Glenn) Mike Fletcher, NI4M - Chuck Lavender, W4CLL - Demand new elections for existing directors in compliance with the bylaws. - Establish a bylaw committee to rewrite the bylaws and change the organization structure to better serve all amateurs in Florida. - Establish a development process for new policies from the membership - Encourage input from the membership based on sound technical policies - De-centralize coordination by having a web enabled database be accessible to the public showing all history of an application through coordination. - No one person should be the gatekeeper of the database. - Make all records of the FRC open to the public, as any non-profit serving the public interest must be. I will make a motion to accomplish this at the next meeting at the Melbourne Hamfest meeting. To make this happen, I am asking for your proxy, if you’re a member of the FRC. You will need to print out this form and sign it, then send a scan or legible picture of it to me via email or text message. If you can attend the meeting, please do so. It’s $10 to become a member on the FRC website and it buys the right to have a say in the future of amateur radio in Florida. http://florida-repeaters.org/donate.htm I fully expect to be shouted down by the board, but as members we cannot be ignored. I wish to resolve this via the membership, but if ignored I do intend to comply the board, by any legal means, to follow the bylaws and FS 617. I need your proxy by the Friday, October 7, 2016. 73’s and see you at Melbourne, Bryan Fields, W9CR P.S. Please feel free to discuss this on list. If you wish to not be a part of this discussion you can remove yourself using the link at the bottom. I'm happy to oblige your wishes via direct email as well if you have any questions. _______________________________________________ FRC-Info mailing list FRC-Info@lists.keekles.org http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info
participants (10)
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Bryan Fields -
John Blaisdell -
k2hxc@comcast.net -
Ken Wolfe -
Leon Jurczyszyn -
Livinginavan Downbytheriver -
mccrpt@tampabay.rr.com -
MICHAEL WELLS -
Nilo Hernandez -
Pete Rimmel N8PR