[Allstar Digital] MMDVM analog

David KE6UPI dshaw at ke6upi.com
Thu Jun 9 13:29:01 EDT 2016


Nope I don't know anything about the MMDVM and I'm cheap when it comes to
new ideas. I make the first project cheap as I can, then go big if it
works.. I do have a backup repeater to work with so the the cost is little.

David

On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 10:19 AM, Robert Newberry <N1XBM at amsat.org> wrote:

> OK OK I haven't started in mine yet, so I don't totally know everything
> yet. It was my understanding that there currently is not a seamless
> integration to ASL. Yes it can be done with other methods that are not too
> pretty. That is all I was commenting on.
>
> I agree on too many talkgroups on DMR, my little repeater up here I've
> limited to a small amount of talkgroups for that very reason.
>
> N1XBM
> Apparare Scientor
> Paratus Communicare
> Allstar Node # 27086, 41540, 41812, 42086, 42658, 42657
> www.radioguysrepeaternetwork.com
> On Jun 9, 2016 1:05 PM, "Steve Zingman" <szingman at msgstor.com> wrote:
>
>> It will do it NOW. Understand what MMDVM stands for. I'm not even sure
>> there is value in a single repeater that does D-Star, DMR and Fusion. The
>> contention for air time will be a issue. Look at what happens on DMR now if
>> too many Talk Groups are supported. BONK!, BONK!, BONK!
>>
>> On 6/9/2016 1:01 PM, Robert Newberry wrote:
>>
>> I would imagine that at some point the code and hardware will evolve to a
>> point where a more seamless integration to ASL will come. ASL is an
>> excellent way to move audio around within a network.
>>
>> N1XBM
>> Apparare Scientor
>> Paratus Communicare
>> Allstar Node # 27086, 41540, 41812, 42086, 42658, 42657
>> www.radioguysrepeaternetwork.com
>> On Jun 9, 2016 12:52 PM, "Steve Zingman" <szingman at msgstor.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, it will auto switch to DMR or Fusion or D-Star. With AllStar the
>>> MMDVM will have to be told to "go to sleep" so Asterisk can process the
>>> analog signal.
>>>
>>> On 6/9/2016 12:47 PM, David KE6UPI wrote:
>>>
>>> OK I was reading this guys webpage about a setting called muti-mode that
>>> MMDVM will switch automatically to the mode it receives.
>>> <http://ve1cra.net/main/dmr.html>http://ve1cra.net/main/dmr.html So
>>> that's why I ask the question. I don't know much about the MMDVM and how it
>>> would work with ASL..
>>>
>>> Thanks, David
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 9:00 AM, Steve Zingman < <szingman at msgstor.com>
>>> szingman at msgstor.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The MMDVM can be inhibited by a hardware signal so that something else
>>>> can process the signal.
>>>>
>>>> On 6/9/2016 11:58 AM, Robert Newberry wrote:
>>>>
>>>> No it can not.
>>>>
>>>> N1XBM
>>>> Apparare Scientor
>>>> Paratus Communicare
>>>> Allstar Node # 27086, 41540, 41812, 42086, 42658, 42657
>>>> www.radioguysrepeaternetwork.com
>>>> On Jun 9, 2016 11:57 AM, "David KE6UPI" < <dshaw at ke6upi.com>
>>>> dshaw at ke6upi.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, Question 1 should be.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Can the MMDVM auto switch from Analog to Digital?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 8:55 AM, David KE6UPI < <dshaw at ke6upi.com>
>>>>> dshaw at ke6upi.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to up in and ask a question or 2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) Can I use the MMDVM digital to Brandmaster and analog to
>>>>>> AllStarLink?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) MMDVM uses a Raspberry Pi. Can I use the same Raspberry Pi (if yes
>>>>>> to question 1) for AllStarLink (Dial)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, David
>>>>>> KE6UPI
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 8:38 AM, Steve Zingman <
>>>>>> <szingman at msgstor.com>szingman at msgstor.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Loos like pins 7, 8, 9 are output pins to define the mode. I think
>>>>>>> the C4FM pin is used to change channels on radio to wider mode. COS is
>>>>>>> still defined.
>>>>>>> I THINK other signal were used for bandwidth changes, I could be
>>>>>>> wrong and too lazy to read the code right now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/9/2016 11:25 AM, Chuck Kraly wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They removed the original function of the COR line (it was not be
>>>>>>> used in the build) and re-assigned it or they are PLANNING on doing it. I
>>>>>>> believe they moved it to do a channel selection for the Motorola radios
>>>>>>> that were sharing DMR/D-Star?YSF modes to change the rcv bandwiths
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chuck k0XM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 10:08 AM, Steve Zingman <
>>>>>>> <szingman at msgstor.com>szingman at msgstor.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes. I THINK that can be done. A number of inputs and outputs have
>>>>>>>> been added. I would dedicate it to just digital and be done wit it, but
>>>>>>>> that's me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2016 11:06 AM, Robert Newberry wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's interesting, basically pausing the modem, so it can function
>>>>>>>> like a analog repeater?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> N1XBM
>>>>>>>> Apparare Scientor
>>>>>>>> Paratus Communicare
>>>>>>>> Allstar Node # 27086, 41540, 41812, 42086, 42658, 42657
>>>>>>>> <http://www.radioguysrepeaternetwork.com>
>>>>>>>> www.radioguysrepeaternetwork.com
>>>>>>>> On Jun 9, 2016 11:02 AM, "Steve Zingman" < <szingman at msgstor.com>
>>>>>>>> szingman at msgstor.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No, it can not do analog. You can control it though. I have not
>>>>>>>>> done it. I think the COS line to the modem if asserted will pause the modem
>>>>>>>>> so the repeater can process analog.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2016 10:35 AM, Robert Newberry wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm getting ready for a MMDVM build. I'm pretty sure that the
>>>>>>>>> MMDVM and switch back and forth from DMR and C4FM for example. Can it do
>>>>>>>>> analog as well? I guessing the issue will be if it can do analog getting
>>>>>>>>> the audio to Allstar would be the issue.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> N1XBM
>>>>>>>>> Apparare Scientor
>>>>>>>>> Paratus Communicare
>>>>>>>>> Allstar Node # 27086, 41540, 41812, 42086, 42658, 42657
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.radioguysrepeaternetwork.com>
>>>>>>>>> www.radioguysrepeaternetwork.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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