[Allstar Digital] MMDVM analog
Steve Zingman
szingman at msgstor.com
Thu Jun 9 13:32:59 EDT 2016
Though I do dive in head first, the RF gear is a very small piece if the
puzzle. I use a pair of VRM-650 (MCS-2000) on the bench for testing.
Total cost for the 2 radios, $30 shipped. Yes you have to be able to
program them etc.
Steve
On 6/9/2016 1:29 PM, David KE6UPI wrote:
> Nope I don't know anything about the MMDVM and I'm cheap when it comes
> to new ideas. I make the first project cheap as I can, then go big if
> it works.. I do have a backup repeater to work with so the the cost is
> little.
>
> David
>
> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 10:19 AM, Robert Newberry <N1XBM at amsat.org
> <mailto:N1XBM at amsat.org>> wrote:
>
> OK OK I haven't started in mine yet, so I don't totally know
> everything yet. It was my understanding that there currently is
> not a seamless integration to ASL. Yes it can be done with other
> methods that are not too pretty. That is all I was commenting on.
>
> I agree on too many talkgroups on DMR, my little repeater up here
> I've limited to a small amount of talkgroups for that very reason.
>
> N1XBM
> Apparare Scientor
> Paratus Communicare
> Allstar Node # 27086, 41540, 41812, 42086, 42658, 42657
> www.radioguysrepeaternetwork.com
> <http://www.radioguysrepeaternetwork.com>
>
> On Jun 9, 2016 1:05 PM, "Steve Zingman" <szingman at msgstor.com
> <mailto:szingman at msgstor.com>> wrote:
>
> It will do it NOW. Understand what MMDVM stands for. I'm not
> even sure there is value in a single repeater that does
> D-Star, DMR and Fusion. The contention for air time will be a
> issue. Look at what happens on DMR now if too many Talk Groups
> are supported. BONK!, BONK!, BONK!
>
> On 6/9/2016 1:01 PM, Robert Newberry wrote:
>>
>> I would imagine that at some point the code and hardware will
>> evolve to a point where a more seamless integration to ASL
>> will come. ASL is an excellent way to move audio around
>> within a network.
>>
>> N1XBM
>> Apparare Scientor
>> Paratus Communicare
>> Allstar Node # 27086, 41540, 41812, 42086, 42658, 42657
>> www.radioguysrepeaternetwork.com
>> <http://www.radioguysrepeaternetwork.com>
>>
>> On Jun 9, 2016 12:52 PM, "Steve Zingman"
>> <szingman at msgstor.com <mailto:szingman at msgstor.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, it will auto switch to DMR or Fusion or D-Star. With
>> AllStar the MMDVM will have to be told to "go to sleep"
>> so Asterisk can process the analog signal.
>>
>> On 6/9/2016 12:47 PM, David KE6UPI wrote:
>>> OK I was reading this guys webpage about a setting
>>> called muti-mode that MMDVM will switch automatically to
>>> the mode it receives. http://ve1cra.net/main/dmr.html So
>>> that's why I ask the question. I don't know much about
>>> the MMDVM and how it would work with ASL..
>>>
>>> Thanks, David
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 9:00 AM, Steve Zingman
>>> <szingman at msgstor.com <mailto:szingman at msgstor.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The MMDVM can be inhibited by a hardware signal so
>>> that something else can process the signal.
>>>
>>> On 6/9/2016 11:58 AM, Robert Newberry wrote:
>>>>
>>>> No it can not.
>>>>
>>>> N1XBM
>>>> Apparare Scientor
>>>> Paratus Communicare
>>>> Allstar Node # 27086, 41540, 41812, 42086, 42658, 42657
>>>> www.radioguysrepeaternetwork.com
>>>> <http://www.radioguysrepeaternetwork.com>
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 9, 2016 11:57 AM, "David KE6UPI"
>>>> <dshaw at ke6upi.com <mailto:dshaw at ke6upi.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, Question 1 should be.
>>>>
>>>> 1) Can the MMDVM auto switch from Analog to
>>>> Digital?
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 8:55 AM, David KE6UPI
>>>> <dshaw at ke6upi.com <mailto:dshaw at ke6upi.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I would like to up in and ask a question or 2.
>>>>
>>>> 1) Can I use the MMDVM digital to
>>>> Brandmaster and analog to AllStarLink?
>>>>
>>>> 2) MMDVM uses a Raspberry Pi. Can I use the
>>>> same Raspberry Pi (if yes to question 1)
>>>> for AllStarLink (Dial)?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, David
>>>> KE6UPI
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 8:38 AM, Steve
>>>> Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com
>>>> <mailto:szingman at msgstor.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Loos like pins 7, 8, 9 are output pins
>>>> to define the mode. I think the C4FM
>>>> pin is used to change channels on radio
>>>> to wider mode. COS is still defined.
>>>> I THINK other signal were used for
>>>> bandwidth changes, I could be wrong and
>>>> too lazy to read the code right now.
>>>>
>>>> On 6/9/2016 11:25 AM, Chuck Kraly wrote:
>>>>> They removed the original function of
>>>>> the COR line (it was not be used in
>>>>> the build) and re-assigned it or they
>>>>> are PLANNING on doing it. I believe
>>>>> they moved it to do a channel
>>>>> selection for the Motorola radios that
>>>>> were sharing DMR/D-Star?YSF modes to
>>>>> change the rcv bandwiths
>>>>>
>>>>> Chuck k0XM
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 10:08 AM, Steve
>>>>> Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com
>>>>> <mailto:szingman at msgstor.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes. I THINK that can be done. A
>>>>> number of inputs and outputs have
>>>>> been added. I would dedicate it to
>>>>> just digital and be done wit it,
>>>>> but that's me.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/9/2016 11:06 AM, Robert
>>>>> Newberry wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's interesting, basically
>>>>>> pausing the modem, so it can
>>>>>> function like a analog repeater?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> N1XBM
>>>>>> Apparare Scientor
>>>>>> Paratus Communicare
>>>>>> Allstar Node # 27086, 41540,
>>>>>> 41812, 42086, 42658, 42657
>>>>>> www.radioguysrepeaternetwork.com
>>>>>> <http://www.radioguysrepeaternetwork.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 9, 2016 11:02 AM, "Steve
>>>>>> Zingman" <szingman at msgstor.com
>>>>>> <mailto:szingman at msgstor.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, it can not do analog. You
>>>>>> can control it though. I have
>>>>>> not done it. I think the COS
>>>>>> line to the modem if asserted
>>>>>> will pause the modem so the
>>>>>> repeater can process analog.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/9/2016 10:35 AM, Robert
>>>>>> Newberry wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm getting ready for a
>>>>>>> MMDVM build. I'm pretty sure
>>>>>>> that the MMDVM and switch
>>>>>>> back and forth from DMR and
>>>>>>> C4FM for example. Can it do
>>>>>>> analog as well? I guessing
>>>>>>> the issue will be if it can
>>>>>>> do analog getting the audio
>>>>>>> to Allstar would be the issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> N1XBM
>>>>>>> Apparare Scientor
>>>>>>> Paratus Communicare
>>>>>>> Allstar Node # 27086, 41540,
>>>>>>> 41812, 42086, 42658, 42657
>>>>>>> www.radioguysrepeaternetwork.com
>>>>>>> <http://www.radioguysrepeaternetwork.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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