[Allstar Digital] MMDVM analog

Thu Jun 9 13:45:13 EDT 2016

YEP Steve, do you want to program the radios for me? LOL I'll pay for the
shipping...

On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com> wrote:

> Though I do dive in head first, the RF gear is a very small piece if the
> puzzle. I use a pair of VRM-650 (MCS-2000) on the bench for testing. Total
> cost for the 2 radios, $30 shipped. Yes you have to be able to program them
> etc.
>
> Steve
>
>
> On 6/9/2016 1:29 PM, David KE6UPI wrote:
>
> Nope I don't know anything about the MMDVM and I'm cheap when it comes to
> new ideas. I make the first project cheap as I can, then go big if it
> works.. I do have a backup repeater to work with so the the cost is little.
>
> David
>
> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 10:19 AM, Robert Newberry <N1XBM at amsat.org> wrote:
>
>> OK OK I haven't started in mine yet, so I don't totally know everything
>> yet. It was my understanding that there currently is not a seamless
>> integration to ASL. Yes it can be done with other methods that are not too
>> pretty. That is all I was commenting on.
>>
>> I agree on too many talkgroups on DMR, my little repeater up here I've
>> limited to a small amount of talkgroups for that very reason.
>>
>> N1XBM
>> Apparare Scientor
>> Paratus Communicare
>> Allstar Node # 27086, 41540, 41812, 42086, 42658, 42657
>> www.radioguysrepeaternetwork.com
>> On Jun 9, 2016 1:05 PM, "Steve Zingman" <szingman at msgstor.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It will do it NOW. Understand what MMDVM stands for. I'm not even sure
>>> there is value in a single repeater that does D-Star, DMR and Fusion. The
>>> contention for air time will be a issue. Look at what happens on DMR now if
>>> too many Talk Groups are supported. BONK!, BONK!, BONK!
>>>
>>> On 6/9/2016 1:01 PM, Robert Newberry wrote:
>>>
>>> I would imagine that at some point the code and hardware will evolve to
>>> a point where a more seamless integration to ASL will come. ASL is an
>>> excellent way to move audio around within a network.
>>>
>>> N1XBM
>>> Apparare Scientor
>>> Paratus Communicare
>>> Allstar Node # 27086, 41540, 41812, 42086, 42658, 42657
>>> www.radioguysrepeaternetwork.com
>>> On Jun 9, 2016 12:52 PM, "Steve Zingman" < <szingman at msgstor.com>
>>> szingman at msgstor.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, it will auto switch to DMR or Fusion or D-Star. With AllStar the
>>>> MMDVM will have to be told to "go to sleep" so Asterisk can process the
>>>> analog signal.
>>>>
>>>> On 6/9/2016 12:47 PM, David KE6UPI wrote:
>>>>
>>>> OK I was reading this guys webpage about a setting called muti-mode
>>>> that MMDVM will switch automatically to the mode it receives.
>>>> http://ve1cra.net/main/dmr.html So that's why I ask the question. I
>>>> don't know much about the MMDVM and how it would work with ASL..
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, David
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 9:00 AM, Steve Zingman < <szingman at msgstor.com>
>>>> szingman at msgstor.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The MMDVM can be inhibited by a hardware signal so that something else
>>>>> can process the signal.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/9/2016 11:58 AM, Robert Newberry wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> No it can not.
>>>>>
>>>>> N1XBM
>>>>> Apparare Scientor
>>>>> Paratus Communicare
>>>>> Allstar Node # 27086, 41540, 41812, 42086, 42658, 42657
>>>>> <http://www.radioguysrepeaternetwork.com>
>>>>> www.radioguysrepeaternetwork.com
>>>>> On Jun 9, 2016 11:57 AM, "David KE6UPI" < <dshaw at ke6upi.com>
>>>>> dshaw at ke6upi.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry, Question 1 should be.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) Can the MMDVM auto switch from Analog to Digital?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 8:55 AM, David KE6UPI < <dshaw at ke6upi.com>
>>>>>> dshaw at ke6upi.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to up in and ask a question or 2.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) Can I use the MMDVM digital to Brandmaster and analog to
>>>>>>> AllStarLink?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) MMDVM uses a Raspberry Pi. Can I use the same Raspberry Pi (if
>>>>>>> yes to question 1) for AllStarLink (Dial)?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, David
>>>>>>> KE6UPI
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 8:38 AM, Steve Zingman <
>>>>>>> <szingman at msgstor.com>szingman at msgstor.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Loos like pins 7, 8, 9 are output pins to define the mode. I think
>>>>>>>> the C4FM pin is used to change channels on radio to wider mode. COS is
>>>>>>>> still defined.
>>>>>>>> I THINK other signal were used for bandwidth changes, I could be
>>>>>>>> wrong and too lazy to read the code right now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2016 11:25 AM, Chuck Kraly wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They removed the original function of the COR line (it was not be
>>>>>>>> used in the build) and re-assigned it or they are PLANNING on doing it. I
>>>>>>>> believe they moved it to do a channel selection for the Motorola radios
>>>>>>>> that were sharing DMR/D-Star?YSF modes to change the rcv bandwiths
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Chuck k0XM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 10:08 AM, Steve Zingman <
>>>>>>>> <szingman at msgstor.com>szingman at msgstor.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes. I THINK that can be done. A number of inputs and outputs have
>>>>>>>>> been added. I would dedicate it to just digital and be done wit it, but
>>>>>>>>> that's me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2016 11:06 AM, Robert Newberry wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's interesting, basically pausing the modem, so it can
>>>>>>>>> function like a analog repeater?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> N1XBM
>>>>>>>>> Apparare Scientor
>>>>>>>>> Paratus Communicare
>>>>>>>>> Allstar Node # 27086, 41540, 41812, 42086, 42658, 42657
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.radioguysrepeaternetwork.com>
>>>>>>>>> www.radioguysrepeaternetwork.com
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 9, 2016 11:02 AM, "Steve Zingman" < <szingman at msgstor.com>
>>>>>>>>> szingman at msgstor.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No, it can not do analog. You can control it though. I have not
>>>>>>>>>> done it. I think the COS line to the modem if asserted will pause the modem
>>>>>>>>>> so the repeater can process analog.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2016 10:35 AM, Robert Newberry wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm getting ready for a MMDVM build. I'm pretty sure that the
>>>>>>>>>> MMDVM and switch back and forth from DMR and C4FM for example. Can it do
>>>>>>>>>> analog as well? I guessing the issue will be if it can do analog getting
>>>>>>>>>> the audio to Allstar would be the issue.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> N1XBM
>>>>>>>>>> Apparare Scientor
>>>>>>>>>> Paratus Communicare
>>>>>>>>>> Allstar Node # 27086, 41540, 41812, 42086, 42658, 42657
>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.radioguysrepeaternetwork.com>
>>>>>>>>>> www.radioguysrepeaternetwork.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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