[App_rpt] Getting app_rpt base node to work.

Shane Young KØSEY apprpt at shaneyoung.com
Thu Jul 27 05:35:54 UTC 2006


I started playing some more with mine tonight.  I have a couple of the ARIBs and CAC channel banks.

If I set a node to "remote=y" I am not able to dial into it using the "dumb" mode, I was only able
to do that if I had "remote=n".

My paging project nearly working correctly.  The only problem I have no way to prevent my end from
transmitting when there is carrier on the radio.  This is necessary for shared channel stuff.

My goal I think is similar to yours, but I think you are attacking it from a different perspective.

My project will (hopefully) function like this:

Dial a paging access number.
enter the pager ID or CAP Code.
Hear a beep
Record your message
Hang up

This will create a file in /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing which will "dial" app_rpt in "dumb" mode,
send out the tones for the CAP code you entered and play the message back.

By doing it this way, the radio is never connected to the PSTN, this elimnating restrictions of some
services.

Again, this is only going to work correctly if I can somehow determine that their is carrier and
"wait" before transmitting.

It's hotter than hell here in Tropical Minnesota lately.  My work area is not air conditioned, so I
don't spend too much time working on this, but I got quite a bit closer tonight.

I don't remember if it was you or someone else who asked about cheap radios.  Midland XTR's are
fairly cheap on fleabay and I think I've figured out where to tap TX/RX audio and PTT/COR on the
board.










Quoting Shane Burrell <shaneb at metrostat.net>:

> An update.  After digging into the Tk-880 I noticed that either you must use
> the internal or external speaker connector so I just bridged the output wire
> onto the internal speaker wire.  Now when I dial 390 I can hear the Tk-880.
> Still don't have transmitting working.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net
> [mailto:app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net] On Behalf Of Shane Burrell
> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 11:12 AM
> To: 'Asterisk Repeater Controler'
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt] Getting app_rpt base node to work.
>
> 	First thanks to everyone for all your help thus far.  I have the DPO
> setting and now when I do dial the 390 I hear something but it's not
> understandable.  Also I can't seem to get the TX light to come on with the
> DPO set.  I think I may have a problem with the way the TK-880 is setup.
> I'm using the KCT-19 accessory adapter but the service manual has a few
> jumpers on it and no so clear documentation.  I'm wandering about the PTT
> and also if the speaker out is working on the TK-880 they way I expect it
> to.  Any experience with the TK-880?  Also is there another cheap radio that
> would be easier to interface with?
>
> Regards,
>
> Shane
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net
> [mailto:app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net] On Behalf Of Steve Rodgers
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 10:04 PM
> To: Asterisk Repeater Controler
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt] Getting app_rpt base node to work.
>
>
> Shane,
>
> 1. the red light is turning on, the radio should transmit, that is, unless:
>
> The radio PTT interface is not correct.
> Most radios ley their transmitter when PTT is connected to ground.
> Check the manual for your radio to verify that this is the case before
> proceeding.
>
> If you have verified that your radio needs to see a ground on PTT to
> transmit,
> then make sure JP4 is installed (to connect the other side of the PTT relay
> to ground), force the red TX light to light by plugging it in to your
> channel
> bank as you mentioned in the prior message.
>
> If your radio still won't transmit when the red light is on, then turn off
> the
> radio and check the for continuity between pins 7 and 8 on the ARIB radio
> interface connector with a meter. There should be no continuity when the red
>
> light is off, and continuity when the red light is on. Be sure you are
> measuring between pins 7 and 8 on the connector.
>
> If the red light comes on and there is continuity between pins 7 and 8, your
>
> radio should key its transmitter in this case. If it still doesn't, then you
>
> need to go back and check your connections to the radio and/or verify that
> it
> is designed to key its transmitter when the PTT line is grounded.
>
>
>
> 2.  Adtran TA750 needs to be set up for DPO not tandem(E&M). The E&M setting
>
> is only intended to be set in the Asterisk configuration. Please refer to
> the
> TA 750 manual to configure it for DPO mode.
>
> Steve.
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday 25 July 2006 11:13, Shane Burrell wrote:
> > I have setup the TA 750 for tandem(E&M) and verified all below.  When I
> > plug the RJ-11 into J1 the TX light illuminates.  Radio is not
> transmitting
> > at any time.  Also when I key up from anther radio the base does cause the
> > COR light to illimunate on the ARIB.  When I dial the 390 extension to hit
> > the base I get nothing but talk battery sound on the SIP phone and this in
> > the asterisk log.
> >
> > Jul 25 14:13:38 WARNING[6720]: chan_sip.c:2731 sip_indicate: Don't know
> how
> > ndicate condition 13
> > Jul 25 14:13:38 WARNING[6720]: channel.c:2064 ast_indicate: Unable to
> > handleication 13 for 'SIP/2-08166720'
> > Jul 25 14:13:40 WARNING[6720]: chan_sip.c:2731 sip_indicate: Don't know
> how
> > ndicate condition 13
> > Jul 25 14:13:40 WARNING[6720]: channel.c:2064 ast_indicate: Unable to
> > handleication 13 for 'SIP/2-08166720'
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net
> > [mailto:app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net] On Behalf Of Steve Rodgers
> > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 9:02 PM
> > To: Asterisk Repeater Controler
> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt] Getting app_rpt base node to work.
> >
> >
> > JP1 and JP2 need to be removed.
> >
> > Steve.
> >
> > On Monday 24 July 2006 11:13, Shane Burrell wrote:
> > > Do I leave J1 jumpers connected for 2W?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net
> > > [mailto:app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net] On Behalf Of Steve Rodgers
> > > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 10:10 PM
> > > To: Asterisk Repeater Controler
> > > Subject: Re: [App_rpt] Getting app_rpt base node to work.
> > >
> > > Shane,
> > >
> > > Since you are running as a half duplex remote base please verify the
> > > following:
> > >
> > > 1. The ARIB card needs to have the 4W/2W switch set to 2W (2 wire).
> > >
> > > 2. Only one cable should be connected from the channelbank to the ARIB
> > > card.
> > >
> > > This should go from the port on the channel bank equivalent to Zap/25 to
> >
> > J1
> >
> > > on the ARIB card.
> > >
> > > 3. There should not be a txchannel defined in the nodes section of
> > > rpt.conf.
> > >
> > > 4. Since you are running as a remote base, you must add a 'y' argument
> to
> > > the
> > > end of the node definition, like this: 101 = radio at me.asterisk.net/101,y
> > >
> > > 5. /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf should have em_txrx for signalling on
> > > Zap/25.
> > >
> > > 6. /etc/zaptel.conf should have channel type for Zap/25 set to e&m
> > >
> > > If after verifying the above items and you still have problems:
> > >
> > >
> > > 1. The Sangoma T1 card must be able to talk to the channel bank to
> > > control the
> > > DPO port operation. We have not tested the Sangoma T1 cards with app_rpt
> > > and
> > >
> > > cannot confirm if they support DPO operation through Zaptel.
> > >
> > >
> > > Steve.
> > >
> > > On Friday 21 July 2006 16:20, Shane Burrell wrote:
> > > > It does light the red light.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net
> > > > [mailto:app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net] On Behalf Of
> > > > hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com
> > > > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 6:29 PM
> > > > To: Asterisk Repeater Controler
> > > > Subject: Re: [App_rpt] Getting app_rpt base node to work.
> > > >
> > > > Swap the jacks and tell me if you get a red tx light. Connecting the
> RX
> > > > into the TX port on the ARIB should light the TX LED.
> > > >
> > > > >From what I can deduce, it looks like the modular cables from your
> > >
> > > channel
> > >
> > > > bank  are flipping the polarity of tip and ring. The ARIB is polarity
> > > > sensitive and will do exactly what you have described if the polarity
> > > > is wrong.
> > > >
> > > > Make up a new set of modular cables which swap the red and green wires
> >
> > in
> >
> > > > the opposite manner to the cables you are currently using.
> > > >
> > > > Steve.
> > > >
> > > > > From: "Shane Burrell" <shaneb at metrostat.net>
> > > > > Date: 2006/07/21 Fri PM 01:08:42 PDT
> > > > > To: "'Asterisk Repeater Controler'" <app_rpt at lists.illiana.net>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [App_rpt] Getting app_rpt base node to work.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now that I have rpt loading I can't seem to figure out how to get
> the
> > > > > base to key up.  I think I have a combo of problems with my config
> > > > > and ARIB interface.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a Sangoma A104D with second T1 channels 1 and two configured.
> > >
> > > One
> > >
> > > > is
> > > >
> > > > > LS other is GS. The goto a TA 750 into the ARIB.  I have set to 4W
> > > > > and jumpers 1 and 2 removed.  The ARIB is connected to the KCT-19
> > > > > pigtal
> >
> > on
> >
> > > > > my Kenwood TK-880. I see the COR light come on when I receive a
> > > > > transmission. So far so good.
> > > > >
> > > > > When I setup a exten to rpt|P it just gets dead air and doesn't
> > >
> > > transmit.
> > >
> > > > I
> > > >
> > > > > assumed that at this point I could dial *X out of the function list
> >
> > and
> >
> > > > have
> > > >
> > > > > it do something but it doesn't.  Also no audio occurs on the phone
> if
> > >
> > > the
> > >
> > > > > radio is receiving but the COR light does work.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any pointers or next step?  I've dug thru the docs and most of what
> I
> > >
> > > see
> > >
> > > > is
> > > >
> > > > > for repeaters.  I just want to hit a base and send some tones. Maybe
> >
> > an
> >
> > > > > annoucment or two.
> > > > >
> > > > > TIA,
> > > > >
> > > > > SHane
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net
> > > > > [mailto:app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net] On Behalf Of Shane
> Burrell
> > > > > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 1:48 PM
> > > > > To: 'Asterisk Repeater Controler'
> > > > > Subject: Re: [App_rpt] Getting app_rpt base node to work.
> > > > >
> > > > > I figured out I have to restart asterisk.  Now I get dial and get
> >
> > blank
> >
> > > > air.
> > > >
> > > > > My goal is to dial a number and have it send out some 2 tone.  I
> > > > > would settle for DTMF.  Is there a DTMF command I need to issue to
> > > > > take over/PTT the base?
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net
> > > > > [mailto:app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net] On Behalf Of Jim Duuuude
> > > > > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 1:43 PM
> > > > > To: app_rpt at lists.illiana.net
> > > > > Subject: Re: [App_rpt] Getting app_rpt base node to work.
> > > > >
> > > > > How about remote=y
> > > > >
> > > > > It doesnt recognize remote=dump, and thinks it a node
> > > > > and wants an idrecording specified.
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: "Shane Burrell" <shaneb at metrostat.net>
> > > > > >Reply-To: Asterisk Repeater Controler <app_rpt at lists.illiana.net>
> > > > > >To: "'Asterisk Repeater Controler'" <app_rpt at lists.illiana.net>
> > > > > >Subject: Re: [App_rpt] Getting app_rpt base node to work.
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> > > > > >
> > > > > >Still get rpt_exec: Cannot find specified system node 101.  my
> > > > > > rpt.conf
> > > >
> > > > is
> > > >
> > > > > >as follows:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >[101]					; Node ID of remote base
> > > > > >rxchannel = Zap/25			; Rx audio/signalling
> >
> > channel
> >
> > > > > >txchannel = Zap/26			; Tx audio/signalling
> >
> > channel
> >
> > > > > >functions = functions-remote
> > > > > >remote = dumb				; Set remote=y for dumb
> > > >
> > > > remote or
> > > >
> > > > > >					; remote=rbi for Doug Hall
> RBI1
> > > > > >[functions-remote]
> > > > > >0=remote,1				; Retrieve Memory
> > > > > >1=remote,2				; Set freq.
> > > > > >2=remote,3				; Set Rx PL tone.
> > > > > >40=remote,100				; Rx PL off
> > > > > >41=remote,101				; Rx PL on
> > > > > >42=remote,102				; Tx PL off
> > > > > >43=remote,103				; Tx PL on
> > > > > >44=remote,104				; Low Pwr
> > > > > >45=remote,105				; Med Pwr
> > > > > >46=remote,106				; Hi Pwr
> > > > > >5=remote,5				; Status
> > > > > >
> > > > > >[telemetry]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >ct1=|t(350,0,100,2048)(500,0,100,2048)(660,0,100,2048)
> > > > > >ct2=|t(660,880,150,2048)
> > > > > >ct3=|t(440,0,150,2048)
> > > > > >ct4=|t(550,0,150,2048)
> > > > > >ct5=|t(660,0,150,2048)
> > > > > >ct6=|t(880,0,150,2048)
> > > > > >ct7=|t(660,440,150,2048)
> > > > > >ct8=|t(700,1100,150,2048)
> > > > > >remotetx=|t(2000,0,75,2048)(0,0,75,0)(1600,0,75,2048);
> > > > > >remotemon=|t(1600,0,75,2048)
> > > > > >cmdmode=|t(900,903,200,2048)
> > > > > >functcomplete=|t(1000,0,100,2048)(0,0,100,0)(1000,0,100,2048)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >[morse]
> > > > > >speed=20		; Approximate speed in WPM
> > > > > >frequency=800		; Morse Telemetry Frequency
> > > > > >amplitude=4096		; Morse Telemetry Amplitude
> > > > > >idfrequency=330		; Morse ID Frequency
> > > > > >idamplitude=2048	; Morse ID Amplitude
> > > > > >
> > > > > >[nodes]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >;000 = context_A at 1.2.3.4/1234
> > > > > >101 = radio at me.asterisk.net/101
> > > > > >
> > > > > >;of course, you can also specify these with domain names, but why
> >
> > rely
> >
> > > > > >;on DNS working unnecessarily?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >[memory]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >;; this example gives you 146.460, simplex, 100.0 HZ PL, hi-power,
> > > >
> > > > transmit
> > > >
> > > > > >PL
> > > > > >00 = 146.460,100.0,sht
> > > > > >;; this example gives you 146.940, minus offset, 100.0 HZ PL,
> > >
> > > low-power,
> > >
> > > > no
> > > >
> > > > > >PL
> > > > > >01 = 146.940,100.0,-l
> > > > > >
> > > > > >; The format for these entries is:
> > > > > > Receive-Freq,Receive-PL,Attrbutes ;     Attributes: l=low power,
> > > > > > m=medium power, h=high power, -=minus offset,
> > > > > >;	s=simplex, +=plus offset, t=tx PL enable, r=rx PL enable
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > >From: app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net
> > > > > >[mailto:app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net] On Behalf Of
> > > > > >hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com
> > > > > >Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 1:10 PM
> > > > > >To: Asterisk Repeater Controler
> > > > > >Subject: Re: [App_rpt] Getting app_rpt base node to work.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Shane,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >1. Node numbers with leading zeroes are reserved. Try using 101
> > >
> > > instead.
> > >
> > > > > >2. The node number needs to be defined in 2 places in the rpt.conf
> > >
> > > file.
> > >
> > > > > >Once in the repeater section with square brackets e.g. [101] and
> > > > > > once
> > >
> > > in
> > >
> > > > > >the
> > > > > >[NODES] section as an entry to connect to/from:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >radio at 127.0.0.1/101,127.0.0.1
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Steve.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: "Shane Burrell" <shaneb at metrostat.net>
> > > > > > > Date: 2006/07/21 Fri AM 10:04:30 PDT
> > > > > > > To: <app_rpt at lists.illiana.net>
> > > > > > > Subject: [App_rpt] Getting app_rpt base node to work.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've tried to setup a base node using a kenwood TK-880 and
> analog
> > > >
> > > > radio
> > > >
> > > > > > > board.  Asterisk reports that rpt_exec: Cannot find specified
> > > > > > > system
> > > > > >
> > > > > >node
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > 001.  I have 001 defined using the example base node.  Is there
> > > > > >
> > > > > >something
> > > > > >I
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > am missing.  Does app-rpt require more than a reload to get its
> > > > > > > configuration?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Shane
> > > > > >
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