[App_rpt] Getting app_rpt base node to work.

Thu Jul 27 13:52:38 UTC 2006

Shane,

Your last message has me confused. The remote keyword in the node 
configuration block does not take a 'y' or 'n' value. Did you mean the node 
entry in the [NODES] section: 1234=radio at somenode.org/1234,somenode.org,y?

Steve.

On Wednesday 26 July 2006 22:35, Shane Young KØSEY wrote:
> I started playing some more with mine tonight.  I have a couple of the
> ARIBs and CAC channel banks.
>
> If I set a node to "remote=y" I am not able to dial into it using the
> "dumb" mode, I was only able to do that if I had "remote=n".
>
> My paging project nearly working correctly.  The only problem I have no way
> to prevent my end from transmitting when there is carrier on the radio. 
> This is necessary for shared channel stuff.
>
> My goal I think is similar to yours, but I think you are attacking it from
> a different perspective.
>
> My project will (hopefully) function like this:
>
> Dial a paging access number.
> enter the pager ID or CAP Code.
> Hear a beep
> Record your message
> Hang up
>
> This will create a file in /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing which will "dial"
> app_rpt in "dumb" mode, send out the tones for the CAP code you entered and
> play the message back.
>
> By doing it this way, the radio is never connected to the PSTN, this
> elimnating restrictions of some services.
>
> Again, this is only going to work correctly if I can somehow determine that
> their is carrier and "wait" before transmitting.
>
> It's hotter than hell here in Tropical Minnesota lately.  My work area is
> not air conditioned, so I don't spend too much time working on this, but I
> got quite a bit closer tonight.
>
> I don't remember if it was you or someone else who asked about cheap
> radios.  Midland XTR's are fairly cheap on fleabay and I think I've figured
> out where to tap TX/RX audio and PTT/COR on the board.
>
> Quoting Shane Burrell <shaneb at metrostat.net>:
> > An update.  After digging into the Tk-880 I noticed that either you must
> > use the internal or external speaker connector so I just bridged the
> > output wire onto the internal speaker wire.  Now when I dial 390 I can
> > hear the Tk-880. Still don't have transmitting working.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net
> > [mailto:app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net] On Behalf Of Shane Burrell
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 11:12 AM
> > To: 'Asterisk Repeater Controler'
> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt] Getting app_rpt base node to work.
> >
> > 	First thanks to everyone for all your help thus far.  I have the DPO
> > setting and now when I do dial the 390 I hear something but it's not
> > understandable.  Also I can't seem to get the TX light to come on with
> > the DPO set.  I think I may have a problem with the way the TK-880 is
> > setup. I'm using the KCT-19 accessory adapter but the service manual has
> > a few jumpers on it and no so clear documentation.  I'm wandering about
> > the PTT and also if the speaker out is working on the TK-880 they way I
> > expect it to.  Any experience with the TK-880?  Also is there another
> > cheap radio that would be easier to interface with?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Shane
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net
> > [mailto:app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net] On Behalf Of Steve Rodgers
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 10:04 PM
> > To: Asterisk Repeater Controler
> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt] Getting app_rpt base node to work.
> >
> >
> > Shane,
> >
> > 1. the red light is turning on, the radio should transmit, that is,
> > unless:
> >
> > The radio PTT interface is not correct.
> > Most radios ley their transmitter when PTT is connected to ground.
> > Check the manual for your radio to verify that this is the case before
> > proceeding.
> >
> > If you have verified that your radio needs to see a ground on PTT to
> > transmit,
> > then make sure JP4 is installed (to connect the other side of the PTT
> > relay to ground), force the red TX light to light by plugging it in to
> > your channel
> > bank as you mentioned in the prior message.
> >
> > If your radio still won't transmit when the red light is on, then turn
> > off the
> > radio and check the for continuity between pins 7 and 8 on the ARIB radio
> > interface connector with a meter. There should be no continuity when the
> > red
> >
> > light is off, and continuity when the red light is on. Be sure you are
> > measuring between pins 7 and 8 on the connector.
> >
> > If the red light comes on and there is continuity between pins 7 and 8,
> > your
> >
> > radio should key its transmitter in this case. If it still doesn't, then
> > you
> >
> > need to go back and check your connections to the radio and/or verify
> > that it
> > is designed to key its transmitter when the PTT line is grounded.
> >
> >
> >
> > 2.  Adtran TA750 needs to be set up for DPO not tandem(E&M). The E&M
> > setting
> >
> > is only intended to be set in the Asterisk configuration. Please refer to
> > the
> > TA 750 manual to configure it for DPO mode.
> >
> > Steve.
> >
> > On Tuesday 25 July 2006 11:13, Shane Burrell wrote:
> > > I have setup the TA 750 for tandem(E&M) and verified all below.  When I
> > > plug the RJ-11 into J1 the TX light illuminates.  Radio is not
> >
> > transmitting
> >
> > > at any time.  Also when I key up from anther radio the base does cause
> > > the COR light to illimunate on the ARIB.  When I dial the 390 extension
> > > to hit the base I get nothing but talk battery sound on the SIP phone
> > > and this in the asterisk log.
> > >
> > > Jul 25 14:13:38 WARNING[6720]: chan_sip.c:2731 sip_indicate: Don't know
> >
> > how
> >
> > > ndicate condition 13
> > > Jul 25 14:13:38 WARNING[6720]: channel.c:2064 ast_indicate: Unable to
> > > handleication 13 for 'SIP/2-08166720'
> > > Jul 25 14:13:40 WARNING[6720]: chan_sip.c:2731 sip_indicate: Don't know
> >
> > how
> >
> > > ndicate condition 13
> > > Jul 25 14:13:40 WARNING[6720]: channel.c:2064 ast_indicate: Unable to
> > > handleication 13 for 'SIP/2-08166720'
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net
> > > [mailto:app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net] On Behalf Of Steve Rodgers
> > > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 9:02 PM
> > > To: Asterisk Repeater Controler
> > > Subject: Re: [App_rpt] Getting app_rpt base node to work.
> > >
> > >
> > > JP1 and JP2 need to be removed.
> > >
> > > Steve.
> > >
> > > On Monday 24 July 2006 11:13, Shane Burrell wrote:
> > > > Do I leave J1 jumpers connected for 2W?
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net
> > > > [mailto:app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net] On Behalf Of Steve Rodgers
> > > > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 10:10 PM
> > > > To: Asterisk Repeater Controler
> > > > Subject: Re: [App_rpt] Getting app_rpt base node to work.
> > > >
> > > > Shane,
> > > >
> > > > Since you are running as a half duplex remote base please verify the
> > > > following:
> > > >
> > > > 1. The ARIB card needs to have the 4W/2W switch set to 2W (2 wire).
> > > >
> > > > 2. Only one cable should be connected from the channelbank to the
> > > > ARIB card.
> > > >
> > > > This should go from the port on the channel bank equivalent to Zap/25
> > > > to
> > >
> > > J1
> > >
> > > > on the ARIB card.
> > > >
> > > > 3. There should not be a txchannel defined in the nodes section of
> > > > rpt.conf.
> > > >
> > > > 4. Since you are running as a remote base, you must add a 'y'
> > > > argument
> >
> > to
> >
> > > > the
> > > > end of the node definition, like this: 101 =
> > > > radio at me.asterisk.net/101,y
> > > >
> > > > 5. /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf should have em_txrx for signalling on
> > > > Zap/25.
> > > >
> > > > 6. /etc/zaptel.conf should have channel type for Zap/25 set to e&m
> > > >
> > > > If after verifying the above items and you still have problems:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 1. The Sangoma T1 card must be able to talk to the channel bank to
> > > > control the
> > > > DPO port operation. We have not tested the Sangoma T1 cards with
> > > > app_rpt and
> > > >
> > > > cannot confirm if they support DPO operation through Zaptel.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Steve.
> > > >
> > > > On Friday 21 July 2006 16:20, Shane Burrell wrote:
> > > > > It does light the red light.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net
> > > > > [mailto:app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net] On Behalf Of
> > > > > hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com
> > > > > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 6:29 PM
> > > > > To: Asterisk Repeater Controler
> > > > > Subject: Re: [App_rpt] Getting app_rpt base node to work.
> > > > >
> > > > > Swap the jacks and tell me if you get a red tx light. Connecting
> > > > > the
> >
> > RX
> >
> > > > > into the TX port on the ARIB should light the TX LED.
> > > > >
> > > > > >From what I can deduce, it looks like the modular cables from your
> > > >
> > > > channel
> > > >
> > > > > bank  are flipping the polarity of tip and ring. The ARIB is
> > > > > polarity sensitive and will do exactly what you have described if
> > > > > the polarity is wrong.
> > > > >
> > > > > Make up a new set of modular cables which swap the red and green
> > > > > wires
> > >
> > > in
> > >
> > > > > the opposite manner to the cables you are currently using.
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve.
> > > > >
> > > > > > From: "Shane Burrell" <shaneb at metrostat.net>
> > > > > > Date: 2006/07/21 Fri PM 01:08:42 PDT
> > > > > > To: "'Asterisk Repeater Controler'" <app_rpt at lists.illiana.net>
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [App_rpt] Getting app_rpt base node to work.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now that I have rpt loading I can't seem to figure out how to get
> >
> > the
> >
> > > > > > base to key up.  I think I have a combo of problems with my
> > > > > > config and ARIB interface.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have a Sangoma A104D with second T1 channels 1 and two
> > > > > > configured.
> > > >
> > > > One
> > > >
> > > > > is
> > > > >
> > > > > > LS other is GS. The goto a TA 750 into the ARIB.  I have set to
> > > > > > 4W and jumpers 1 and 2 removed.  The ARIB is connected to the
> > > > > > KCT-19 pigtal
> > >
> > > on
> > >
> > > > > > my Kenwood TK-880. I see the COR light come on when I receive a
> > > > > > transmission. So far so good.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When I setup a exten to rpt|P it just gets dead air and doesn't
> > > >
> > > > transmit.
> > > >
> > > > > I
> > > > >
> > > > > > assumed that at this point I could dial *X out of the function
> > > > > > list
> > >
> > > and
> > >
> > > > > have
> > > > >
> > > > > > it do something but it doesn't.  Also no audio occurs on the
> > > > > > phone
> >
> > if
> >
> > > > the
> > > >
> > > > > > radio is receiving but the COR light does work.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any pointers or next step?  I've dug thru the docs and most of
> > > > > > what
> >
> > I
> >
> > > > see
> > > >
> > > > > is
> > > > >
> > > > > > for repeaters.  I just want to hit a base and send some tones.
> > > > > > Maybe
> > >
> > > an
> > >
> > > > > > annoucment or two.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > TIA,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > SHane
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net
> > > > > > [mailto:app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net] On Behalf Of Shane
> >
> > Burrell
> >
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 1:48 PM
> > > > > > To: 'Asterisk Repeater Controler'
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [App_rpt] Getting app_rpt base node to work.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I figured out I have to restart asterisk.  Now I get dial and get
> > >
> > > blank
> > >
> > > > > air.
> > > > >
> > > > > > My goal is to dial a number and have it send out some 2 tone.  I
> > > > > > would settle for DTMF.  Is there a DTMF command I need to issue
> > > > > > to take over/PTT the base?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net
> > > > > > [mailto:app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net] On Behalf Of Jim
> > > > > > Duuuude Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 1:43 PM
> > > > > > To: app_rpt at lists.illiana.net
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [App_rpt] Getting app_rpt base node to work.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How about remote=y
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It doesnt recognize remote=dump, and thinks it a node
> > > > > > and wants an idrecording specified.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >From: "Shane Burrell" <shaneb at metrostat.net>
> > > > > > >Reply-To: Asterisk Repeater Controler
> > > > > > > <app_rpt at lists.illiana.net> To: "'Asterisk Repeater Controler'"
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> > > > > > >Still get rpt_exec: Cannot find specified system node 101.  my
> > > > > > > rpt.conf
> > > > >
> > > > > is
> > > > >
> > > > > > >as follows:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >[101]					; Node ID of remote base
> > > > > > >rxchannel = Zap/25			; Rx audio/signalling
> > >
> > > channel
> > >
> > > > > > >txchannel = Zap/26			; Tx audio/signalling
> > >
> > > channel
> > >
> > > > > > >functions = functions-remote
> > > > > > >remote = dumb				; Set remote=y for dumb
> > > > >
> > > > > remote or
> > > > >
> > > > > > >					; remote=rbi for Doug Hall
> >
> > RBI1
> >
> > > > > > >[functions-remote]
> > > > > > >0=remote,1				; Retrieve Memory
> > > > > > >1=remote,2				; Set freq.
> > > > > > >2=remote,3				; Set Rx PL tone.
> > > > > > >40=remote,100				; Rx PL off
> > > > > > >41=remote,101				; Rx PL on
> > > > > > >42=remote,102				; Tx PL off
> > > > > > >43=remote,103				; Tx PL on
> > > > > > >44=remote,104				; Low Pwr
> > > > > > >45=remote,105				; Med Pwr
> > > > > > >46=remote,106				; Hi Pwr
> > > > > > >5=remote,5				; Status
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >[telemetry]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >ct1=|t(350,0,100,2048)(500,0,100,2048)(660,0,100,2048)
> > > > > > >ct2=|t(660,880,150,2048)
> > > > > > >ct3=|t(440,0,150,2048)
> > > > > > >ct4=|t(550,0,150,2048)
> > > > > > >ct5=|t(660,0,150,2048)
> > > > > > >ct6=|t(880,0,150,2048)
> > > > > > >ct7=|t(660,440,150,2048)
> > > > > > >ct8=|t(700,1100,150,2048)
> > > > > > >remotetx=|t(2000,0,75,2048)(0,0,75,0)(1600,0,75,2048);
> > > > > > >remotemon=|t(1600,0,75,2048)
> > > > > > >cmdmode=|t(900,903,200,2048)
> > > > > > >functcomplete=|t(1000,0,100,2048)(0,0,100,0)(1000,0,100,2048)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >[morse]
> > > > > > >speed=20		; Approximate speed in WPM
> > > > > > >frequency=800		; Morse Telemetry Frequency
> > > > > > >amplitude=4096		; Morse Telemetry Amplitude
> > > > > > >idfrequency=330		; Morse ID Frequency
> > > > > > >idamplitude=2048	; Morse ID Amplitude
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >[nodes]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >;000 = context_A at 1.2.3.4/1234
> > > > > > >101 = radio at me.asterisk.net/101
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >;of course, you can also specify these with domain names, but
> > > > > > > why
> > >
> > > rely
> > >
> > > > > > >;on DNS working unnecessarily?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >[memory]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >;; this example gives you 146.460, simplex, 100.0 HZ PL,
> > > > > > > hi-power,
> > > > >
> > > > > transmit
> > > > >
> > > > > > >PL
> > > > > > >00 = 146.460,100.0,sht
> > > > > > >;; this example gives you 146.940, minus offset, 100.0 HZ PL,
> > > >
> > > > low-power,
> > > >
> > > > > no
> > > > >
> > > > > > >PL
> > > > > > >01 = 146.940,100.0,-l
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >; The format for these entries is:
> > > > > > > Receive-Freq,Receive-PL,Attrbutes ;     Attributes: l=low
> > > > > > > power, m=medium power, h=high power, -=minus offset,
> > > > > > >;	s=simplex, +=plus offset, t=tx PL enable, r=rx PL enable
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >From: app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net
> > > > > > >[mailto:app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net] On Behalf Of
> > > > > > >hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com
> > > > > > >Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 1:10 PM
> > > > > > >To: Asterisk Repeater Controler
> > > > > > >Subject: Re: [App_rpt] Getting app_rpt base node to work.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Shane,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >1. Node numbers with leading zeroes are reserved. Try using 101
> > > >
> > > > instead.
> > > >
> > > > > > >2. The node number needs to be defined in 2 places in the
> > > > > > > rpt.conf
> > > >
> > > > file.
> > > >
> > > > > > >Once in the repeater section with square brackets e.g. [101] and
> > > > > > > once
> > > >
> > > > in
> > > >
> > > > > > >the
> > > > > > >[NODES] section as an entry to connect to/from:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >radio at 127.0.0.1/101,127.0.0.1
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Steve.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > From: "Shane Burrell" <shaneb at metrostat.net>
> > > > > > > > Date: 2006/07/21 Fri AM 10:04:30 PDT
> > > > > > > > To: <app_rpt at lists.illiana.net>
> > > > > > > > Subject: [App_rpt] Getting app_rpt base node to work.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I've tried to setup a base node using a kenwood TK-880 and
> >
> > analog
> >
> > > > > radio
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > board.  Asterisk reports that rpt_exec: Cannot find specified
> > > > > > > > system
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >node
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 001.  I have 001 defined using the example base node.  Is
> > > > > > > > there
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >something
> > > > > > >I
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > am missing.  Does app-rpt require more than a reload to get
> > > > > > > > its configuration?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Shane
> > > > > > >
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