[App_rpt] Remote Base

Mon Mar 12 21:23:48 UTC 2007

it already does. what do you think we use right now?

>From: "Eric Fort" <eric.fort at gmail.com>
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>In my looking at this issue I noted that iax2 is headed for ietf
>standardization and is currently in draft.  me thinks that a few choice
>commands placed in the iax2 protocol to do this in call signalling would be
>quite nice.  (I may ask a friend of mine who works at digium about that)  
>If
>IAX2 had the commands to do polarity reversal in call what would it take to
>have app_rpt control it?
>
>Eric
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>On 3/11/07, Jim Duuuude <telesistant at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>No SIP ATA's even come CLOSE to supporting what we need.
>>
>>What they call battery reversal is an indication that the call has
>>answered
>>on the far end
>>which may happen ONLY once per call (if it un-answers on the far end it
>>terminates the
>>call).
>>
>>Our needs are to have a SIP call initiated and for it to say up (rather
>>permanently or so)
>>and to have the ability to send on-hook/off-hook states many times as
>>needed. No
>>one does this or even has a concept of this.
>>
>>
>> >From: Stephen Rodgers <hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com>
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>> >Eric,
>> >
>> >You can research this further, but I'm not convinced SIP ATA's give a
>> >fine enough level of control for polarity reversal, or battery
>> >interruption.
>> >
>> >What would be required are special SIP commands which tell the far end
>> >Asterisk server when a phone goes off hook (for RX), and special SIP
>> >commands for applying and removing battery for the TX loop.
>> >
>> >For RX, SIP ATA's do not work like this. When a user goes off hook, a
>> >LOCAL dialtone is generated in the ATA, and only when the digits are
>> >dialed which match a route programmed into the ATA, does the ATA make
>> >connection with the Asterisk server. For TX, SIP ATA's provide battery
>> >all of the time and cannot be set up to interrupt battery on an ad-hoc
>> >basis.
>> >
>> >
>> >Even if all of the above were eventually sfound to be supported, App_rpt
>> >wuld have to undergo a significant rewrite to support SIP on the
>> >repeater port. A lot of things in app_rpt depend on the support Zaptel
>> >provides.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Eric Fort wrote:
>> > > Steve, Yes I read your reply below...then I googled and composed this
>> > > query.  Why will it not work?  how can it work?
>> > >
>> > > (Worst case a patch to asterisk may come to mind since we are running
>> > > seperate channels for tx/rx anyway)
>> > >
>> > > All of the ata's below (the majority of the market) would appear to
>> >support
>> > > polarity reversal  now how can that feature be used with an arib 
>>board
>> >to
>> > > place a remote node at the end of an ethernet cable across the 
>>network
>> > > (where the controlling asterisk box is say on another continent)?
>> > >
>> > > cisco ata186 and ata188
>> > >
>> >
>>http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/gatecont/ps514/products_administration_guide_chapter09186a0080160f73.html#1021012
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > SIPURA SPA-3000
>> > > http://www.sipura.com/Documents/SipuraSPAUserGuidev2.0.9.pdf
>> > > also SPA-2000, SPA-2100, SPA-1001
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ustarcom
>> > > http://www.utstar.com/Document_Library/0043.pdf
>> > >
>> > > HandyTone 286
>> > > http://www.grandstream.com/user_manuals/HandyTone.pdf
>> > >
>> > > Grandstream Handytone ATA-496
>> > > http://www.grandstream.com/user_manuals/HT-496.pdf
>> > >
>> > > Grandstream Handytone ATA-386
>> > > http://www.grandstream.com/user_manuals/HandyTone-386UserManual.pdf
>> > >
>> > > Grandstream Handytone ATA-488
>> > > http://www.grandstream.com/user_manuals/HT488UserManual.pdf
>> > >
>> > > Grandstream Handytone ATA-486
>> > > http://www.grandstream.com/user_manuals/HandyTone-486UserManual.pdf
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Eric
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 2/27/07, Stephen Rodgers < hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> ATA's don't support the line signalling methods required by the ARIB
>>to
>> > >> indicate PTT and/or COR presence.
>> > >>
>> > >> Steve.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> David Craig wrote:
>> > >> > Can App_rpt be used with an ATA for a simplex or half duplex 
>>remote
>> > >> base.
>> > >> > The example might be an Grandstream HandyTone 286 with the FXS 
>>port
>> > >> > connected ARIB.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I have a situation where I need a very small radio interface and 
>>my
>> > >> > asterisk
>> > >> > box will be remote via a high speed connection.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Thanks for any help.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > David
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >>
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