[App_rpt] Asterisk segfaults after installation

Tue Jul 29 00:33:27 UTC 2008

I rest my case....   Steve R, Jim Dude, Steve H, I apologize for speaking my mind on your list...  But if this Steve T "person" (and I use the term loosely) stays a member of this list...  please remove my address...  I refuse to have anything to do with a wanna be HAM!  He has a license but not the true Spirit! In my opinion!  If I have anything to share I will do it off list!

Thanks,
Roger F. Jordan Sr.  W4RFJ

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From: "Steve Totaro" <stotaro at totarotechnologies.com> 

> Not sure why you felt the need to double post? 
> 
> Anyways, see comments inline. 
> 
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 12:20 AM, Roger F. Jordan Sr. wrote: 
> > Boy Marshall, You hit the nail on the head!!! Steve T. comes off as being 
> > Holier then Thou with his "I am a commercial, getting on frequencies us HAMS 
> > are not good enough for attitude!!!" 
> 
> Um, when did Marshall say that? How did he hit the nail on the head? 
> It is what it is. If you feel "not good enough" then work through it 
> with a real "Elmer" or your clergyman or psychologist. 
> 
> > I am new to the App-Rpt stuff… and I 
> > have followed the instructions for all the styles of install, Both Manual 
> > and EVB… when I had a problem, not one of the developers or other ham on 
> > the list had any issue with sharing and helping me through the hard areas!! 
> 
> I am sorry the learning curve is hard for you. Personally, I taught 
> myself Asterisk seven years ago, before any of these GUIs existed. I 
> did everything from the command line and compiled everything from 
> source. 
> 
> Any real Asterisk pro knows the trade-offs of GUIs and all the extra 
> garbage that must be installed and running to make that GUI function, 
> and any of those processes can bring down your server or leave a 
> security hole a hacker could drive a truck though. 
> 
> This EVB/ACID stuff would not be tolerated on the Asterisk lists and 
> without Asterisk, I am not sure what app_rpt would do for you. 
> 
> Did they help you through building a custom kernel, only loading 
> services and software that are needed for the task and no more? Did 
> they teach you how to secure your machine properly? Did they teach 
> you how to obtain maximum uptime on your system? These are all the 
> basics of the "Best Practices" when building any system. 
> 
> Great. 
> 
> > That is what HAM is all about… soooo if Steve T. wants to learn… Or even if 
> > he wants to share to better the project… he would be welcome to do so…. 
> > But Steve T.'s attitude is PISSING US HAMS OFF!! Well this HAM anyway! 
> > 
> 
> I already posted a working HOWTO. Again, you should speak to a 
> clergyman or psychologist about your obvious anger disorders. 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Steve T. This IS a HAM Community… Made By HAMS… so do us a favor… go find 
> > an Elmer and get your license… maybe you might get a clue as to what we are 
> > really doing here anyway! Well, we can only hope! 
> > 
> 
> Wrong, it is an "Asterisk Repeater Controller" community. If you had 
> attended the app_rpt track at Astricon, you would have heard Steve 
> Henke speak to the commercial side of the project. I think I still 
> have the handout with commercial uses included. 
> 
> Anyways, if it helps you feel warm and fuzzy, I am KB3OPB, LMAO. 
> 
> I have no idea what you are doing, but I am a systems integrator and 
> have been doing Linux, Asterisk, MS, Cisco, and just about every kind 
> of phone system you can name doing consulting for many years. 
> 
> My guess is you are just playing. I do this for fun and a living. 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Roger F. Jordan Sr. W4RFJ 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > PS. Just so Steve T. Knows… An Elmer is a Mentor! 
> > 
> 
> My "Elmer" co-authored SNMP and co-founded PSINet. 
> 
> > ________________________________ 
> > 
> > From: app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net 
> > [mailto:app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net] On Behalf Of Marshall Oldham 
> > Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 6:11 PM 
> > To: app_rpt at lists.illiana.net 
> > Subject: [App_rpt] Asterisk segfaults after installation 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Steve, 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >>This is not a HAM community, it is an Asterisk based repeater community. I 
> >> have it in use for commercial non HAM operations that you as a HAM are 
> >> restricted from. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > So, why in your original post did you state this? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > "Is it because HAM people are assumed to be dumb? Couldn't a shell script 
> > be written to pull down known versions of zaptel/dahdi, libpri, and Jim's 
> > branch, and install?" 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Seems to me you were referring to the "HAM" people. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >>As far as money goes, yeah, the defunct Dingotel company probably put in 
> >> most of the effort and money for the idea to be ripped off. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Your reaching now! Boy you sure like pulling things out of thin air. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >>The URI is most likely infringing on a >patent or several but that is 
> >> besides the point. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > If you are so worried about infringement, then why are you using the URI? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Sounds like you are talking out of both sides of your mouth. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >>I am precipitating the fix, not creating the problem. What problem have I 
> >> created? Again, why so much pushback? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > If you are "precipitating" a fix, why are you lasing out on the remailer 
> > about it? 
> > 
> > Simply post a fix with the information on the remailer. That's all you need 
> > to do. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >>I paid for three URIs, that was in U$D, so much for free. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > You paid for hardware NOT software. Do you know the difference??? 
> > 
> > When you bought the URI hardware, it did not say anything about FREE 
> > software support! 
> > 
> > When you buy a Motorola radio, they do not give you the programming software 
> > for free? 
> > 
> > No, you have to buy it. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >>Now I expect to be able to us that hardware on the OS/platform of my 
> >> choosing. Am I out off line? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > And you can! You will just need to figure it out for yourself! 
> > 
> > All OS platforms are not supported and there have never been a claim that 
> > they are! 
> > 
> > Buying hardware does not make you entitled to FREE software support for 
> > whatever OS or idea you can come up with in your own mind. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >>Since when is asking what the logic of be corralled into anything 
> >> complaining? If there is a logical answer rather than vague answers such as 
> >> "a labor of love" and "difficult >to do", then I am open to hearing it, 
> >> otherwise it is propaganda to someone's agenda. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Well your original post did not come across as a question of logic, it came 
> > across as complaining. 
> > 
> > Maybe you need to learn to express yourself better in email when you post 
> > messages on a remailer. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >>I logically want to be clear which it is. 
> > 
> >> 
> > 
> >>HOWTO: 
> > 
> >>1. Install your favorite flavor of Linux and configure it your way, 
> >> optimize your way, secure your way. 
> > 
> >>2. Install prerequisites for Asterisk 
> > 
> >>3. Go into /usr/src directory on your linux box # cd /usr/src 
> > 
> >>4. b) Download the latest SVN stable release of libpri and zaptel and 
> >> Jim's branch # svn checkout >http://svn.digium.com/svn/libpri/branches/1.4 
> >> libpri-1.4 # svn checkout http://svn.digium.com/svn/zaptel/branches/1.4 
> >> zaptel-1.4 # svn >checkout 
> >> ?http://svn.digium.com/svn/asterisk/team/jdixon/chan_usbradio-1.4/ 
> > 
> >>asterisk_usbradio 
> > 
> >>5. cd into each of the above directories and read any READMEs or similar 
> >> all caps files. 
> > 
> >>6. cd into libpri-1.4 
> > 
> >># make clean 
> > 
> >># make && make install 
> > 
> >>7. cd into zaptel-1.4 
> > 
> >># make clean 
> > 
> >># make && make install 
> > 
> >>8. cd into asterisks_usbradio 
> > 
> >># make clean 
> > 
> >># ./configure 
> > 
> >># "make menuselect" and make the selections you want. 
> > 
> >># make && make install 
> > 
> >>9. Edit required files 
> > 
> >>10. Start Asterisk on the console with core dump on and a bit of verbose # 
> >> asterisk –vvvvvvvvvvvgc 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >>Someone please test this as I have, and post to the websites pushing EVB or 
> >> ACID. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > How about you test it and post it to your own website! 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > This will be my last reply regarding this subject. I am not wasting anymore 
> > of my time with 
> > 
> > your "logical questions" (rants) on this email list. 
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> > 73 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Marshall –ke6pcv 
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