[App_rpt-users] Using a Master II

Thu Oct 7 05:45:13 UTC 2010

ok that being said
what resistor values did you use?

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On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 22:16, Corey Dean N3FE <n3fe at repeater.net> wrote:

>  We are all set.  I played around with some different resistor values and
> now all is working as it should.  I used a remote base off of one of my
> repeaters off low power and it dug right in the noise.  Thanks for all of
> your help!  It is working great now….  I am learning as I got and I have
> learned a lot of ins and outs this week…
>
>
>
> Thanks again!
>
>
>
> Corey  N3FE
>
>
>
> *From:* app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com [mailto:
> app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com] *On Behalf Of *RED BUTTON MICRO
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 06, 2010 9:37 PM
> *Cc:* app_rpt mailing list
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> *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] Using a Master II
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>
> Ok what level do you have with a full quieting signal 1k tone with 3 k
> deviation?
> there should be no problem if there is ~ 1 v p-p.
>
> You can try setting thy rx boost off as Jim suggested if its too high.
>
> The out put can be adjusted on a pot in the discriminator box on the IF
> board too.
>
> Jon
>
> On 10/6/2010 9:13 PM, Jim Duuuude wrote:
>
> try setting the rxboost=0  it looks like your signal is very loud and is
> overloading
> the A/D.
>
> JIM
>
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> From: n3fe at repeater.net
> To: jrorke at cogeco.ca; app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 20:54:11 -0400
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Using a Master II
>
> Jon,
>
>
>
> I just got done checking things out.  The same audio that is located on
> Volume Squelch hi is located on the backplane.  I just traced the circuit
> back and double checked it with my VOM.  Here is a link to the file I used
> many years ago.     http://www.scomcontrollers.com/downloads/7kgem2bs.pdf
>
>
>
> I fail every time I run the RX squelch detect from radio-tune-menu.  Here
> are the results for that…
>
>
>
> tune rxnoise maxtries=12, target=27000, tolerance=2750
>
> tries=0, setting=2, meas=32767
>
> tries=1, setting=2, meas=32767
>
> tries=2, setting=2, meas=32767
>
> tries=3, setting=2, meas=32767
>
> tries=4, setting=1, meas=32767
>
> tries=5, setting=1, meas=32767
>
> tries=6, setting=1, meas=32767
>
> tries=7, setting=1, meas=32767
>
> tries=8, setting=1, meas=32767
>
> tries=9, setting=1, meas=32767
>
> tries=10, setting=1, meas=32767
>
> tries=11, setting=1, meas=32767
>
> DONE tries=12, setting=63, meas=32767, sqnoise=20936
>
> ERROR: RX INPUT ADJUST FAILED.
>
>
>
> If I set the squelch setting low manually I can hear the squelch tail
> everytime I unkey.  If I have someone with a noisy but legible signal it
> just won’t hold.  I can go to cas and it will work just fine.  Could it be
> the PL detect that is holding it from digging?
>
>
>
> Any other suggestions?
>
>
>
> Corey  N3FE
>
>
>
> *From:* app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com [
> mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com <app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Jon Rorke
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 06, 2010 9:53 AM
> *To:* APP_RPT_Users
> *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] Using a Master II
>
>
>
> I think the audio out lines on the back plane are de-emphasized or flat to
> 3k then it rolls off. Either way In this case that is not what you want. If
> you were connecting to a hardware controller and using the cas/RX mute then
> it works just fine.
> In the case of using DSP squelch and DSP L decode by the fob/ URI it must
> be connected to the Discriminator.  You could also set your node to speaker
> out instead of flat and use the USB for the cas connection.  That should
> work too.
>
> I personally like using the DSP Squelch and DSP tone as it is very quick -
> no squelch busts! That is... if you have the RX squelch set right. ;-)
>
> Jon
>
> On 10/6/2010 9:19 AM, Corey Dean N3FE wrote:
>
> This is making some sense now.  I did pull off the back plane but I never
> traced it back to see where exactly it was coming from.  Many moons ago I
> followed the Scom 7k to Master II hookup info.  I have always just used that
> same spot on all other controllers in the past without an issue and
> excellent audio.  I will give that a try tonight.  I know what pin you are
> referring to.  It would be the same pin that you would use in a mobile
> conversion and it is also available where the stock PL board would plug in.
>
>
>
>
> Thanks and I will give it a try this evening!
>
>
>
> Corey
>
>
>
> *From:* app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com [
> mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com <app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Jon Rorke
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 06, 2010 8:35 AM
> *To:* APP_RPT_Users
> *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] Using a Master II
>
>
>
> I have set up a Master II repeater station in full duplex mode using a URI
> for dsp squelch and dsp pl decode and it works just fine. The main thing is
> to connect it to the volume/squelch hi (raw discriminator) or you will have
> problems. The master II should be able to give you 1V p-p output with 1k
> tone @ 3k dev on the volumw/squelch hi which is not available on the back
> plane. You have to pull it off one of the connectors on the drawer. Have to
> check my notes on what pin.
>
> Any way I have a couple of units working in this manner with no problems.
>
> Jon VA3RQ
>
> On 10/6/2010 7:46 AM, Corey Dean N3FE wrote:
>
> So I have been using a GE Master II repeater (actual repeater, not a
> converted mobile) for the allstar node in full duplex repeater mode.  I
> noticed it just doesn’t dig too well when using the fob to decode the PL.  I
> have a maxtrac on another fob and that will dig into the noise great.  As a
> test I hooked up a ts32 and ran the output of that in the CAS/COR on the fob
> and it worked great!  I want to try to get the built in decoder working
> correctly though.  Another friend of mine is also running a GE Master II and
> he is having the same problem.  When we run the rxnoise level from either
> the radio-tune-menu or using the radio tune command from asterisk it always
> fails.  Anyone have any suggestions on a way to resolve this?   I have
> another use for my hardware pl decoder so I would like to get the USB Frob
> working correctly!!!!
>
>
>
>
>
> Corey  N3FE
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