[App_rpt-users] Voter Question

Mon Apr 22 14:52:17 UTC 2013

1. Can you use ACID or XIPAR (assuming current builds) to do voting
without using
an RTCM?

ACID/Limey Can't
XIPAR Can

2. IF you can, What are the settings required to do this?
      A. on the RX only site.
      B. on the TX Site.

it's well documented http://www.xelatec.com/xipar/simplevoter
http://www.allstarnode.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=33

3. Can the TX site be used as a RX site as well? 1 URI or modded cm108 fob
or is 2 required ?

Yes with an RTCM

4. Is GPS absolutely necessary, can we use network timing in place of GPS?

Yes GPS is absolutely necessary

Has anyone done this set up yet?

Several have, it works (With RTCM's)

RTCMs are our of  our price range right now.

The only other option is the simple voter which is included in the xipar
package not acid.

73 de K0JSC

On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Bob Brown - WØNQX <bbrown at byrg.net> wrote:

> OK,
>
> I have been trying to follow this thread for a bit now.
>
> The documentation is good. But the question still remains...
>
> 1. Can you use ACID or XIPAR (assuming current builds) to do votingwithoutusing an RTCM?
>
> 2. IF you can, What are the settings required to do this?
>       A. on the RX only site.
>       B. on the TX Site.
>
> 3. Can the TX site be used as a RX site as well? 1 URI or modded cm108 fob
> or is 2 required ?
>
> 4. Is GPS absolutely necessary, can we use network timing in place of GPS?
>
> Has anyone done this set up yet?
>
> RTCMs are our of  our price range right now.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks in Advance
>
>    Bob Brown, WØNQX
>
>    Kansas City Metro Area
>
>
> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
>
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Scott Weis <kb2ear at kb2ear.net> wrote:
>
>> For ACID to do voting you NEED at least 2 RTCMs and 2 GPS receivers and
>> one
>> computer running ACID.  The RTCMs send RX audio RSSI and GPS timing data
>> back to computer which compares the RSSI levels and picks the best one and
>> sends it to the transmitter.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org
>> [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Corey Dean
>> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 11:30 AM
>> To: Tim Sawyer
>> Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org list
>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Voter Question
>>
>> I think you are missing what i am getting at.  He will NOT be using rtcm
>> at
>> all.  That is why I ask about setting up a computer running acid as the
>> receive site.  I need to know what to configure on the pc since we aren't
>> using an rtcm.  I doubt the pc will know what the server ants without
>> configuring something on it.
>>
>> Corey N3FE
>>
>> On Apr 20, 2013, at 11:21 AM, "Tim Sawyer" <tim.sawyer at me.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Those changes are on the server. The client (the RTCM) has no config
>> files, all settings are done through a menu.
>> >
>> > The one line in rpt.conf that changes is:
>> >
>> > rxchannel = Voter/1234                  ; Voter node 1234
>> > --
>> > Tim
>> > :wq
>> >
>> > On Apr 20, 2013, at 6:47 AM, Corey Dean <n3fe at repeater.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I am assuming the changes you mention below are for the client (voter)
>> side of things.  Where do I find the server side setup?  I will still need
>> to know the one line change in rpt.conf.
>> >>
>> >> Corey N3FE
>> >> ________________________________________
>> >> From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org
>> [app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Tim Sawyer
>> [tim.sawyer at me.com]
>> >> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 11:27 PM
>> >> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>> >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Voter Question
>> >>
>> >> Yes, ACID is the distro that is used with RTCM voting. The difference
>> between a URI and a RTCM set up is minimal. Only one line in rpt.conf
>> needs
>> to be changed.  One file, voter.conf is added to the ACID config. That's
>> the
>> entire difference. There is an example voter.conf here:
>> http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/180. Complete RTCM documentation is
>> available
>> from the micro-node site here:
>> http://206.212.254.21/unode_docs/rtcm_%20manual.pdf
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Tim
>> >> :wq
>> >>
>> >> On Apr 19, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Corey Dean <n3fe at repeater.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hopefully this will change the subject at hand...
>> >>>
>> >>> I was reading about the acid voters and had a question or more.
>> >>>
>> >>> I currently run the voting in Zipar so I am not familiar with the way
>> the voter works in the ACID distro.  I am trying to understand a few thing
>> in ACID to help a friend.  I have seen the rtcm that will act as a voting
>> interface as well as the voting card.  Can a regular acid install on a
>> computer be used as a voter as well?  If so is their any documentation for
>> this?  I know a GPS could be connected up to the computer and a radio with
>> true discriminator audio should do the job.  I am just curious if the
>> computer with the ACID distro can also be used as a voter with the right
>> configuration.
>> >>>
>> >>> Corey  N3FE
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