[App_rpt-users] Adjusting telemetry levels (Doug Crompton)

Thu Dec 5 22:58:16 UTC 2013

Doug,

As far as I can tell -5db has caused no problems and I think it is less 
objectionable than the level I hear from the other two servers typically 
connected to my machine.

I've implemented gaindown on only one server so far.  I found -10db too low 
and -5db was not quite as much as I would like.  I have stuck with -5db on 
that machine.  The YL has a nice voice, but way too loud.

I have adjusted controls on CWID and delt with courtesy tones to make those 
less bothersome when multiple nodes are connected.  The tools seem to be 
there.  But I have been unable to teach the YL to be more polite and stop 
screaming connection messages over active traffic on the repeaters.  I was 
thinking of a delay that would hold off the connection or disconnection AND 
the associated voice messages until the radios are unkeyed.  This is 
probably a significant 'feature request'.

Until I cranked up a few Allstar servers a few months ago, I had not run a 
LINUX or UNIX box here since 2005 and I've not done any programming in at 
least 12 years.  I am a little rusty to say the least.  So at this point I 
have to be carefull that I don't break anything I can't fix, hi hi.  Still I 
am very interested in the connect/disconnect message threads.   I'll see 
what I can do with your script.  I appreciate your work on this.

All considered, I say this system works very well.

73,
Ken
W4NOC

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> Ken,
>
> Thanks, yes, that is exactly what I mentioned in my message. The problem 
> (or maybe not problem) is that this lowers the volume for these files even 
> when they are not used for connect/disconnect messages.
>
> Has this been an issue?
> 73 Doug
> WA3DSP
> http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
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>> From: kenh at tsg-us.com
>> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>> Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 12:31:14 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Adjusting telemetry levels
>>
>> Doug,
>> You may wish to try the 'gaindown' script.  This will lower the volume of
>> the connect/disconnect messages.  It works well.
>> http://www.allstarnode.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=26
>> 73,
>> Ken
>> W4NOC
>>
>>
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>> >   1. Adjusting telemetry levels (Doug Crompton)
>> >   2. Re: Turn off dis/connect messages but not other telemetry?
>> >      (corrected) (Doug Crompton)
>> >   3. Re: Turn off dis/connect messages but not other telemetry?
>> >      (corrected) (Tim Sawyer)
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>> > Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 23:40:32 -0500
>> > From: Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com>
>> > To: "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
>> > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Adjusting telemetry levels
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>> > I have been trying to think of creative ways to adjust (down) the voice
>> > telemetry levels. The connected, disconnected, etc. messages are 
>> > created
>> > from the Asterisk sounds directory. What I did for my voice ID and 
>> > other
>> > short messages was create a batch file to combine the sound files and 
>> > then
>> > run the combined file through sox to lower the volume.
>> >
>> > In other cases it becomes a little more difficult. I like on the hour 
>> > time
>> > messages. The app_rpt time messages are created using the Asterisk say
>> > commands and code in app_rpt.  It is not possible without modifying the
>> > app_rpt source to change the way it says it or more importantly the
>> > volume. I like the volume of messages to be somewhat lower than the 
>> > normal
>> > QSO audio. So I created a Perl program to emulate the built-in time
>> > function and then on the fly I adjust the volume and play it.
>> >
>> > So far I have most everything under control but the connect/disconnect
>> > messages which are very annoying. I wish they could be made lower in
>> > volume also. This could be accomplished by running all the audio files
>> > they would call through sox to reduce the volume. Then when app_rpt 
>> > called
>> > the files they would play at reduced volume. Kind of a crude way to do 
>> > it
>> > but it would work. Of course whenever you called the modified files for
>> > other uses they would be at a reduced volume also.
>> >
>> > Interested in what others have done in this regard?
>> >
>> > I am attaching my Perl script to replace the app_rpt built-in time in 
>> > case
>> > anyone else would like to use it. Instructions for its use are in 
>> > comments
>> > in the script.
>> >
>> >
>> > 73 Doug
>> > WA3DSP
>> > http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
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>> >
>> > Message: 2
>> > Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 23:44:09 -0500
>> > From: Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com>
>> > To: Tim Sawyer <tim.sawyer at mac.com>
>> > Cc: "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
>> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Turn off dis/connect messages but not
>> > other telemetry? (corrected)
>> > Message-ID: <BLU172-W1B937259A5ED76679D3A6BAD70 at phx.gbl>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> >
>> > OK that sounds like a good thing to try. I assume this only applies to 
>> > the
>> > connect/disconnect messages and not other telemetry audio?
>> > 73 Doug
>> > WA3DSP
>> > http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
>> >
>> >
>> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Turn off dis/connect messages but not 
>> > other
>> > telemetry? (corrected)
>> > From: tim.sawyer at mac.com
>> > Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 20:01:19 -0800
>> > CC: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>> > To: doug at crompton.com
>> >
>> > It means that when you issue a link command, for example *32000, the
>> > connect message will play back to you. Then, for a short while, like 30 
>> > or
>> > 60 seconds, you will here any dis/connects even if you did not initiate
>> > them. After the 30-60 second timer times expires you will not hear any
>> > more dis/connects until you initiate another link command.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Tim
>> > :wq
>> >
>> >
>> > On Dec 4, 2013, at 7:32 PM, Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com> 
>> > wrote:Tim,
>> >
>> >  Thanks, missed that.  Can you define what this means?
>> > 2 = timed telemetry output on command execution and for a short time
>> > thereafter
>> >
>> > 73 Doug
>> > WA3DSP
>> > http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
>> >
>> >
>> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Turn off dis/connect messages but not 
>> > other
>> > telemetry? (corrected)
>> > From: tim.sawyer at mac.com
>> > Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 08:40:19 -0800
>> > CC: t.schoentag at web.de; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>> > To: doug at crompton.com
>> >
>> > Did you see this? http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/103
>> > --
>> > Tim
>> > :wq
>> > On Dec 4, 2013, at 7:57 AM, Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com> wrote:I
>> > checked the source and there are no comments on the telemetry default
>> > (telemdefault) setting nor does there seem to be any specific info page 
>> > on
>> > that command at ohnosec.org
>> >
>> > Perhaps a developer could comment?
>> >
>> > Did you look at the 'holdofftelem' command?
>> >
>> > http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/110
>> >
>> > There is also 'telemdynamic' which I can't seem to find info on either.
>> > Comprehensive documentation on the telemetry commands seems to be 
>> > lacking.
>> > I guess we are expected to snake through the source and figure it out!
>> >
>> > 73 Doug
>> > WA3DSP
>> > http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
>> >
>> >
>> >> From: t.schoentag at web.de
>> >> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>> >> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 09:47:18 +0100
>> >> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Turn off dis/connect messages but not other
>> >> telemetry? (corrected)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Sorry, there are any mistakes in my first posting here is the 
>> >> corrected
>> >> posting:
>> >>
>> >> Hello, very thanks for your quickly resolutions,
>> >>
>> >> I would like to switch off all connect/disconnect messages
>> >> (anouncements). I have
>> >>
>> >> telemdefault=2
>> >> echolinkdefault=2.
>> >>
>> >> For echolink that work, there are no  messages, but for linking 
>> >> from/to
>> >> other allstar nodes or for linking from allstar webtranceiver there 
>> >> are
>> >> all messages online.
>> >> If I set
>> >>
>> >> telemdefault=0
>> >>
>> >> all messages are off, realy all!
>> >> Is it possible to switch off the dis/connect messages but not the 
>> >> other
>> >> telemetry, pehaps *81 time ...?
>> >>
>> >> A other solution for my problem could be a shorter dis/connect 
>> >> message.
>> >> In the moment I hear "DL7VTS connected to node 91246" or "node 12345
>> >> connected to node 91246" (in phonetic). Is it possible to use only
>> >> "DL7VTS connected". This is half off the audio traffic, has the same
>> >> information and is more usefull?
>> >> eannmode=0 is only for echolink and has not this function! I think it 
>> >> is
>> >> to change in the sources but I need a tip (filename ..)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for help, Thomas, DL7VTS
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>> > Message: 3
>> > Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 22:09:11 -0800
>> > From: Tim Sawyer <tim.sawyer at mac.com>
>> > To: Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com>
>> > Cc: "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
>> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Turn off dis/connect messages but not
>> > other telemetry? (corrected)
>> > Message-ID: <2F43993D-0369-4A52-AB23-5F922C73A483 at mac.com>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>> >
>> > That?s correct.
>> > --
>> > Tim
>> > :wq
>> >
>> > On Dec 4, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> OK that sounds like a good thing to try. I assume this only applies to
>> >> the connect/disconnect messages and not other telemetry audio?
>> >>
>> >> 73 Doug
>> >> WA3DSP
>> >> http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Turn off dis/connect messages but not 
>> >> other
>> >> telemetry? (corrected)
>> >> From: tim.sawyer at mac.com
>> >> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 20:01:19 -0800
>> >> CC: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>> >> To: doug at crompton.com
>> >>
>> >> It means that when you issue a link command, for example *32000, the
>> >> connect message will play back to you. Then, for a short while, like 
>> >> 30
>> >> or 60 seconds, you will here any dis/connects even if you did not
>> >> initiate them. After the 30-60 second timer times expires you will not
>> >> hear any more dis/connects until you initiate another link command.
>> >> --
>> >> Tim
>> >> :wq
>> >>
>> >> On Dec 4, 2013, at 7:32 PM, Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Tim,
>> >>
>> >>   Thanks, missed that.  Can you define what this means?
>> >>
>> >> 2 = timed telemetry output on command execution and for a short time
>> >> thereafter
>> >>
>> >> 73 Doug
>> >> WA3DSP
>> >> http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Turn off dis/connect messages but not 
>> >> other
>> >> telemetry? (corrected)
>> >> From: tim.sawyer at mac.com
>> >> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 08:40:19 -0800
>> >> CC: t.schoentag at web.de; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>> >> To: doug at crompton.com
>> >>
>> >> Did you see this? http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/103
>> >> --
>> >> Tim
>> >> :wq
>> >>
>> >> On Dec 4, 2013, at 7:57 AM, Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I checked the source and there are no comments on the telemetry 
>> >> default
>> >> (telemdefault) setting nor does there seem to be any specific info 
>> >> page
>> >> on that command at ohnosec.org
>> >>
>> >> Perhaps a developer could comment?
>> >>
>> >> Did you look at the 'holdofftelem' command?
>> >>
>> >> http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/110
>> >>
>> >> There is also 'telemdynamic' which I can't seem to find info on 
>> >> either.
>> >> Comprehensive documentation on the telemetry commands seems to be
>> >> lacking. I guess we are expected to snake through the source and 
>> >> figure
>> >> it out!
>> >>
>> >> 73 Doug
>> >> WA3DSP
>> >> http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > From: t.schoentag at web.de
>> >> > To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>> >> > Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 09:47:18 +0100
>> >> > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Turn off dis/connect messages but not other
>> >> > telemetry? (corrected)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Sorry, there are any mistakes in my first posting here is the 
>> >> > corrected
>> >> > posting:
>> >> >
>> >> > Hello, very thanks for your quickly resolutions,
>> >> >
>> >> > I would like to switch off all connect/disconnect messages
>> >> > (anouncements). I have
>> >> >
>> >> > telemdefault=2
>> >> > echolinkdefault=2.
>> >> >
>> >> > For echolink that work, there are no  messages, but for linking 
>> >> > from/to
>> >> > other allstar nodes or for linking from allstar webtranceiver there 
>> >> > are
>> >> > all messages online.
>> >> > If I set
>> >> >
>> >> > telemdefault=0
>> >> >
>> >> > all messages are off, realy all!
>> >> > Is it possible to switch off the dis/connect messages but not the 
>> >> > other
>> >> > telemetry, pehaps *81 time ...?
>> >> >
>> >> > A other solution for my problem could be a shorter dis/connect 
>> >> > message.
>> >> > In the moment I hear "DL7VTS connected to node 91246" or "node 12345
>> >> > connected to node 91246" (in phonetic). Is it possible to use only
>> >> > "DL7VTS connected". This is half off the audio traffic, has the same
>> >> > information and is more usefull?
>> >> > eannmode=0 is only for echolink and has not this function! I think 
>> >> > it
>> >> > is to change in the sources but I need a tip (filename ..)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks for help, Thomas, DL7VTS
>> >> > _______________________________________________
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