[App_rpt-users] Adjusting telemetry levels (Doug Crompton)

Tim Sawyer tim.sawyer at mac.com
Fri Dec 6 00:12:07 UTC 2013 

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On Dec 5, 2013, at 2:58 PM, Ken W4NOC <kenh at tsg-us.com> wrote:

> Doug,
> 
> As far as I can tell -5db has caused no problems and I think it is less objectionable than the level I hear from the other two servers typically connected to my machine.
> 
> I've implemented gaindown on only one server so far.  I found -10db too low and -5db was not quite as much as I would like.  I have stuck with -5db on that machine.  The YL has a nice voice, but way too loud.
> 
> I have adjusted controls on CWID and delt with courtesy tones to make those less bothersome when multiple nodes are connected.  The tools seem to be there.  But I have been unable to teach the YL to be more polite and stop screaming connection messages over active traffic on the repeaters.  I was thinking of a delay that would hold off the connection or disconnection AND the associated voice messages until the radios are unkeyed.  This is probably a significant 'feature request'.
> 
> Until I cranked up a few Allstar servers a few months ago, I had not run a LINUX or UNIX box here since 2005 and I've not done any programming in at least 12 years.  I am a little rusty to say the least.  So at this point I have to be carefull that I don't break anything I can't fix, hi hi.  Still I am very interested in the connect/disconnect message threads.   I'll see what I can do with your script.  I appreciate your work on this.
> 
> All considered, I say this system works very well.
> 
> 73,
> Ken
> W4NOC
> 
> 
> 
> 
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>> Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 16:13:20 -0500
>> From: Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com>
>> To: Ken W4NOC <kenh at tsg-us.com>
>> Cc: "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
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>> Ken,
>> 
>> Thanks, yes, that is exactly what I mentioned in my message. The problem (or maybe not problem) is that this lowers the volume for these files even when they are not used for connect/disconnect messages.
>> 
>> Has this been an issue?
>> 73 Doug
>> WA3DSP
>> http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
>> 
>> 
>>> From: kenh at tsg-us.com
>>> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>>> Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 12:31:14 -0500
>>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Adjusting telemetry levels
>>> 
>>> Doug,
>>> You may wish to try the 'gaindown' script.  This will lower the volume of
>>> the connect/disconnect messages.  It works well.
>>> http://www.allstarnode.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=26
>>> 73,
>>> Ken
>>> W4NOC
>>> 
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>>> >   1. Adjusting telemetry levels (Doug Crompton)
>>> >   2. Re: Turn off dis/connect messages but not other telemetry?
>>> >      (corrected) (Doug Crompton)
>>> >   3. Re: Turn off dis/connect messages but not other telemetry?
>>> >      (corrected) (Tim Sawyer)
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>>> > Message: 1
>>> > Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 23:40:32 -0500
>>> > From: Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com>
>>> > To: "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
>>> > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Adjusting telemetry levels
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>>> > I have been trying to think of creative ways to adjust (down) the voice
>>> > telemetry levels. The connected, disconnected, etc. messages are > created
>>> > from the Asterisk sounds directory. What I did for my voice ID and > other
>>> > short messages was create a batch file to combine the sound files and > then
>>> > run the combined file through sox to lower the volume.
>>> >
>>> > In other cases it becomes a little more difficult. I like on the hour > time
>>> > messages. The app_rpt time messages are created using the Asterisk say
>>> > commands and code in app_rpt.  It is not possible without modifying the
>>> > app_rpt source to change the way it says it or more importantly the
>>> > volume. I like the volume of messages to be somewhat lower than the > normal
>>> > QSO audio. So I created a Perl program to emulate the built-in time
>>> > function and then on the fly I adjust the volume and play it.
>>> >
>>> > So far I have most everything under control but the connect/disconnect
>>> > messages which are very annoying. I wish they could be made lower in
>>> > volume also. This could be accomplished by running all the audio files
>>> > they would call through sox to reduce the volume. Then when app_rpt > called
>>> > the files they would play at reduced volume. Kind of a crude way to do > it
>>> > but it would work. Of course whenever you called the modified files for
>>> > other uses they would be at a reduced volume also.
>>> >
>>> > Interested in what others have done in this regard?
>>> >
>>> > I am attaching my Perl script to replace the app_rpt built-in time in > case
>>> > anyone else would like to use it. Instructions for its use are in > comments
>>> > in the script.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 73 Doug
>>> > WA3DSP
>>> > http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
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>>> >
>>> > Message: 2
>>> > Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 23:44:09 -0500
>>> > From: Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com>
>>> > To: Tim Sawyer <tim.sawyer at mac.com>
>>> > Cc: "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
>>> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Turn off dis/connect messages but not
>>> > other telemetry? (corrected)
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>>> >
>>> > OK that sounds like a good thing to try. I assume this only applies to > the
>>> > connect/disconnect messages and not other telemetry audio?
>>> > 73 Doug
>>> > WA3DSP
>>> > http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Turn off dis/connect messages but not > other
>>> > telemetry? (corrected)
>>> > From: tim.sawyer at mac.com
>>> > Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 20:01:19 -0800
>>> > CC: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>>> > To: doug at crompton.com
>>> >
>>> > It means that when you issue a link command, for example *32000, the
>>> > connect message will play back to you. Then, for a short while, like 30 > or
>>> > 60 seconds, you will here any dis/connects even if you did not initiate
>>> > them. After the 30-60 second timer times expires you will not hear any
>>> > more dis/connects until you initiate another link command.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Tim
>>> > :wq
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Dec 4, 2013, at 7:32 PM, Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com> > wrote:Tim,
>>> >
>>> >  Thanks, missed that.  Can you define what this means?
>>> > 2 = timed telemetry output on command execution and for a short time
>>> > thereafter
>>> >
>>> > 73 Doug
>>> > WA3DSP
>>> > http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Turn off dis/connect messages but not > other
>>> > telemetry? (corrected)
>>> > From: tim.sawyer at mac.com
>>> > Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 08:40:19 -0800
>>> > CC: t.schoentag at web.de; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>>> > To: doug at crompton.com
>>> >
>>> > Did you see this? http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/103
>>> > --
>>> > Tim
>>> > :wq
>>> > On Dec 4, 2013, at 7:57 AM, Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com> wrote:I
>>> > checked the source and there are no comments on the telemetry default
>>> > (telemdefault) setting nor does there seem to be any specific info page > on
>>> > that command at ohnosec.org
>>> >
>>> > Perhaps a developer could comment?
>>> >
>>> > Did you look at the 'holdofftelem' command?
>>> >
>>> > http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/110
>>> >
>>> > There is also 'telemdynamic' which I can't seem to find info on either.
>>> > Comprehensive documentation on the telemetry commands seems to be > lacking.
>>> > I guess we are expected to snake through the source and figure it out!
>>> >
>>> > 73 Doug
>>> > WA3DSP
>>> > http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> From: t.schoentag at web.de
>>> >> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>>> >> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 09:47:18 +0100
>>> >> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Turn off dis/connect messages but not other
>>> >> telemetry? (corrected)
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Sorry, there are any mistakes in my first posting here is the >> corrected
>>> >> posting:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hello, very thanks for your quickly resolutions,
>>> >>
>>> >> I would like to switch off all connect/disconnect messages
>>> >> (anouncements). I have
>>> >>
>>> >> telemdefault=2
>>> >> echolinkdefault=2.
>>> >>
>>> >> For echolink that work, there are no  messages, but for linking >> from/to
>>> >> other allstar nodes or for linking from allstar webtranceiver there >> are
>>> >> all messages online.
>>> >> If I set
>>> >>
>>> >> telemdefault=0
>>> >>
>>> >> all messages are off, realy all!
>>> >> Is it possible to switch off the dis/connect messages but not the >> other
>>> >> telemetry, pehaps *81 time ...?
>>> >>
>>> >> A other solution for my problem could be a shorter dis/connect >> message.
>>> >> In the moment I hear "DL7VTS connected to node 91246" or "node 12345
>>> >> connected to node 91246" (in phonetic). Is it possible to use only
>>> >> "DL7VTS connected". This is half off the audio traffic, has the same
>>> >> information and is more usefull?
>>> >> eannmode=0 is only for echolink and has not this function! I think it >> is
>>> >> to change in the sources but I need a tip (filename ..)
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks for help, Thomas, DL7VTS
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>>> > Message: 3
>>> > Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 22:09:11 -0800
>>> > From: Tim Sawyer <tim.sawyer at mac.com>
>>> > To: Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com>
>>> > Cc: "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
>>> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Turn off dis/connect messages but not
>>> > other telemetry? (corrected)
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>>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>>> >
>>> > That?s correct.
>>> > --
>>> > Tim
>>> > :wq
>>> >
>>> > On Dec 4, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> OK that sounds like a good thing to try. I assume this only applies to
>>> >> the connect/disconnect messages and not other telemetry audio?
>>> >>
>>> >> 73 Doug
>>> >> WA3DSP
>>> >> http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Turn off dis/connect messages but not >> other
>>> >> telemetry? (corrected)
>>> >> From: tim.sawyer at mac.com
>>> >> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 20:01:19 -0800
>>> >> CC: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>>> >> To: doug at crompton.com
>>> >>
>>> >> It means that when you issue a link command, for example *32000, the
>>> >> connect message will play back to you. Then, for a short while, like >> 30
>>> >> or 60 seconds, you will here any dis/connects even if you did not
>>> >> initiate them. After the 30-60 second timer times expires you will not
>>> >> hear any more dis/connects until you initiate another link command.
>>> >> --
>>> >> Tim
>>> >> :wq
>>> >>
>>> >> On Dec 4, 2013, at 7:32 PM, Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Tim,
>>> >>
>>> >>   Thanks, missed that.  Can you define what this means?
>>> >>
>>> >> 2 = timed telemetry output on command execution and for a short time
>>> >> thereafter
>>> >>
>>> >> 73 Doug
>>> >> WA3DSP
>>> >> http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Turn off dis/connect messages but not >> other
>>> >> telemetry? (corrected)
>>> >> From: tim.sawyer at mac.com
>>> >> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 08:40:19 -0800
>>> >> CC: t.schoentag at web.de; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>>> >> To: doug at crompton.com
>>> >>
>>> >> Did you see this? http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/103
>>> >> --
>>> >> Tim
>>> >> :wq
>>> >>
>>> >> On Dec 4, 2013, at 7:57 AM, Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I checked the source and there are no comments on the telemetry >> default
>>> >> (telemdefault) setting nor does there seem to be any specific info >> page
>>> >> on that command at ohnosec.org
>>> >>
>>> >> Perhaps a developer could comment?
>>> >>
>>> >> Did you look at the 'holdofftelem' command?
>>> >>
>>> >> http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/110
>>> >>
>>> >> There is also 'telemdynamic' which I can't seem to find info on >> either.
>>> >> Comprehensive documentation on the telemetry commands seems to be
>>> >> lacking. I guess we are expected to snake through the source and >> figure
>>> >> it out!
>>> >>
>>> >> 73 Doug
>>> >> WA3DSP
>>> >> http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> > From: t.schoentag at web.de
>>> >> > To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>>> >> > Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 09:47:18 +0100
>>> >> > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Turn off dis/connect messages but not other
>>> >> > telemetry? (corrected)
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Sorry, there are any mistakes in my first posting here is the >> > corrected
>>> >> > posting:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Hello, very thanks for your quickly resolutions,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I would like to switch off all connect/disconnect messages
>>> >> > (anouncements). I have
>>> >> >
>>> >> > telemdefault=2
>>> >> > echolinkdefault=2.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > For echolink that work, there are no  messages, but for linking >> > from/to
>>> >> > other allstar nodes or for linking from allstar webtranceiver there >> > are
>>> >> > all messages online.
>>> >> > If I set
>>> >> >
>>> >> > telemdefault=0
>>> >> >
>>> >> > all messages are off, realy all!
>>> >> > Is it possible to switch off the dis/connect messages but not the >> > other
>>> >> > telemetry, pehaps *81 time ...?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > A other solution for my problem could be a shorter dis/connect >> > message.
>>> >> > In the moment I hear "DL7VTS connected to node 91246" or "node 12345
>>> >> > connected to node 91246" (in phonetic). Is it possible to use only
>>> >> > "DL7VTS connected". This is half off the audio traffic, has the same
>>> >> > information and is more usefull?
>>> >> > eannmode=0 is only for echolink and has not this function! I think >> > it
>>> >> > is to change in the sources but I need a tip (filename ..)
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Thanks for help, Thomas, DL7VTS
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