[App_rpt-users] RB stability, was: Dial Watchdog Function

Jeff Carrier k0jsc.jeff at gmail.com
Sat Dec 12 22:15:54 UTC 2015 

I've used anything from the Kenwood G707 to commercial rigs.  I currently
use Motorolas and steer the channels with GPIO.  I never had an issue with
allmon when using the 707 we just needed tougher hardware.

On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com> wrote:

> Jeff,
> To try to narrow the search, what equipment do you use on your remote
> bases?
>
> Steve
>
> On 12/12/2015 05:01 PM, Jeff Carrier wrote:
>
> I'm curious as to why allmon would be an issue?  I'm running 2 allmon
> servers which monitor up to 12 nodes with 5 remote bases and have not had
> issues.  What is the problem that allmon causes?
>
> de K0JSC
>
> On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Kenneth Grimard <n1dot1 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> allmon and allmon2 will cause an issue. if you do not use them you will
>> not
>> have the problem steve. it can be made to cause a crash every time
>> when used.
>>
>> this is why i have taken the remote base node off the allmon2 page's
>> on dial. and will have to do the same for the acid build also.
>>
>> i am working with dial to make the migration to new
>> hardware sooner or later.
>>
>> ken n1dot
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/12/2015 2:25 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:
>>
>>> I don't have any stability issues with the 706 and the basic rpt remote
>>> base code.
>>> I don't need hamlib. Admittedly, I don't use Aallmon in it. I'll have to
>>> try it.
>>>
>>> YMMV
>>>
>>> 73, Steve N4IRS
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/12/2015 02:20 PM, David McGough wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Ken,
>>>>
>>>> Interesting that having allmon2 probe the RB stats causes a Asterisk
>>>> crash...Back in yesteryear I tried to run a 706mkiig RB using the
>>>> built-in
>>>> code and never had good results--YES, it did work. But, Asterisk wasn't
>>>> stable very long, frequently crashing several times a day, depending on
>>>> use.  Various serial communications issues with the radio would
>>>> -sporadically- "knock it for a loop" too. I concluded that their was
>>>> probably memory getting clobbered somewhere.
>>>>
>>>> If I disabled the RB command support, the Asterisk stability
>>>> skyrocketed--uptimes now measured in weeks, months or longer. As an
>>>> example, here are the stats from one of my RB systems now:
>>>>
>>>> TX time today....................................: 01:12:27.95
>>>> TX time since system initialization..............: 87:37:42.861
>>>> Uptime...........................................: 1336:34:22
>>>>
>>>> It has been up 55 days without any issues....And, as you can see, it
>>>> gets
>>>> used--But, I now use hamlib for all RB commands.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 73, David KB4FXC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 12 Dec 2015, Kenneth Grimard wrote:
>>>>
>>>> the crash is caused when accessing the the remote base node
>>>>> using the asterisk manager interface via allmon2
>>>>> by the way.
>>>>>
>>>>> ken n1dot
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/12/2015 2:02 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ken,
>>>>>> I now better understand. I'll work on something that will solve the
>>>>>> restart from crash.
>>>>>> I will also look into what is causing the crash since I also have a
>>>>>> 706 as a remote base.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/12/2015 01:50 PM, Kenneth Grimard wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hi steve
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the main issue steve is not the fact that
>>>>>>> service asterisk restart does not work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but the main issue is that if asterisk crashes for any reason
>>>>>>> it will not restart itself. because of this i also can not use
>>>>>>> cop,1 cop command which is asterisk restart.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cop,1 will cause asterisk to exit for restart but asterisk will
>>>>>>> not restart via a watchdog script.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> safe_asterisk used to do this very nicely but it has been eliminated.
>>>>>>> and you only use the asterisk service script under systemd.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> yes the version of the asterisk service script i have here from the
>>>>>>> dial build from about 4 to 5 weeks ago the
>>>>>>> service asterisk restart does not work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it force's me to use service asterisk stop to remove the
>>>>>>> asterisk.ctl file from the /var/run and the
>>>>>>> the service asterisk start will then work allowing asterisk
>>>>>>> to be restarted proprely.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I also have a node setup for remote base mode using an
>>>>>>> ic-706mkiig and sometimes that will cause a crash with it.
>>>>>>> when asterisk is accessed via an allmon2 dashboard.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have had to take the remote base node off of the
>>>>>>> allmon2 page to stop this crashing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it will do it every time too.
>>>>>>> that is something with the old remote base code
>>>>>>> with in app_rpt.c too which has never been fixed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> this is why the asterisk auto restart on crash would be very nice
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> where can i find a new or updated asterisk service script.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> can i get it from the rpi2 dial image and put in the
>>>>>>> dial x86 build with out having to re-install
>>>>>>> dial x86 image?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> otherwise for the most part asterisk under dial has been
>>>>>>> fairly stable. but i can make it crash under certain conditions
>>>>>>> which i try to avoid. like using allmon2 to access
>>>>>>> the remote base node via the asterisk manager
>>>>>>> interface.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ken n1dot
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/12/2015 1:01 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ken,
>>>>>>>> As I posted below I could not recreate your issue. is there anything
>>>>>>>> I'm missing?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 73, Steve
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> root at repeater:~# asterisk -r
>>>>>>>> Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium, Inc. and others.
>>>>>>>> Created by Mark Spencer < <markster at digium.com>markster at digium.com>
>>>>>>>> Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type 'core show
>>>>>>>> warranty' for details.
>>>>>>>> This is free software, with components licensed under the GNU
>>>>>>>> General Public
>>>>>>>> License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to
>>>>>>>> redistribute it under
>>>>>>>> certain conditions. Type 'core show license' for details.
>>>>>>>> =========================================================================
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Connected to Asterisk 1519 currently running on repeater (pid =
>>>>>>>> 4407)
>>>>>>>> repeater*CLI> rpt cmd 2150 cop 1 2150
>>>>>>>> repeater*CLI> Killed
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> root at repeater:~# service asterisk restart
>>>>>>>> root at repeater:~# asterisk -r
>>>>>>>> Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium, Inc. and others.
>>>>>>>> Created by Mark Spencer < <markster at digium.com>markster at digium.com>
>>>>>>>> Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type 'core show
>>>>>>>> warranty' for details.
>>>>>>>> This is free software, with components licensed under the GNU
>>>>>>>> General Public
>>>>>>>> License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to
>>>>>>>> redistribute it under
>>>>>>>> certain conditions. Type 'core show license' for details.
>>>>>>>> =========================================================================
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Connected to Asterisk 1519 currently running on repeater (pid =
>>>>>>>> 4462)
>>>>>>>> repeater*CLI>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/12/2015 11:50 AM, Kenneth Grimard wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I download the dial release and installed it just after is first
>>>>>>>>> came out
>>>>>>>>> that was about 4 weeks ago.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> now if asterisk crash for any reason or if you use the cop,1 cop
>>>>>>>>> command
>>>>>>>>> it will not restart is self at all. you have to go into an ssh
>>>>>>>>> shell and issue a
>>>>>>>>> service asterisk stop then a service asterisk start.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the service asterisk restart does not work for me on the x86
>>>>>>>>> release.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> there seems to be no way for asterisk to restart itself after a
>>>>>>>>> crash
>>>>>>>>> or after using the cop,1 cop command.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> has there been any updates to the asterisk service command
>>>>>>>>> for systemd to fix this?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ken n1dot
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 12/12/2015 7:16 AM, Steve Zingman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Neil,
>>>>>>>>>> I misread your message last night.
>>>>>>>>>> I just tested service asterisk restart on DIAL x86 restarts a dead
>>>>>>>>>> asterisk. See below.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> root at repeater:/etc/init.d# ps ax | grep asterisk
>>>>>>>>>>   1081 ?        Ssl    0:01 /usr/sbin/asterisk
>>>>>>>>>>   1117 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep asterisk
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> root at repeater:/etc/init.d# kill -9 1081
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> root at repeater:/etc/init.d# ps ax | grep asterisk
>>>>>>>>>>   1125 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep asterisk
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> root at repeater:/etc/init.d# asterisk -r
>>>>>>>>>> Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium, Inc. and others.
>>>>>>>>>> Created by Mark Spencer < <markster at digium.com>
>>>>>>>>>> markster at digium.com>
>>>>>>>>>> Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type 'core show
>>>>>>>>>> warranty' for details.
>>>>>>>>>> This is free software, with components licensed under the GNU
>>>>>>>>>> General Public
>>>>>>>>>> License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to
>>>>>>>>>> redistribute it under
>>>>>>>>>> certain conditions. Type 'core show license' for details.
>>>>>>>>>> =========================================================================
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Unable to connect to remote asterisk (does /var/run/asterisk.ctl
>>>>>>>>>> exist?)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> root at repeater:/etc/init.d# service asterisk restart
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> root at repeater:/etc/init.d# ps ax | grep asterisk
>>>>>>>>>>   1143 ?        Ssl    0:00 /usr/sbin/asterisk
>>>>>>>>>>   1171 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep asterisk
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> root at repeater:/etc/init.d# asterisk -r
>>>>>>>>>> Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium, Inc. and others.
>>>>>>>>>> Created by Mark Spencer < <markster at digium.com>
>>>>>>>>>> markster at digium.com>
>>>>>>>>>> Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type 'core show
>>>>>>>>>> warranty' for details.
>>>>>>>>>> This is free software, with components licensed under the GNU
>>>>>>>>>> General Public
>>>>>>>>>> License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to
>>>>>>>>>> redistribute it under
>>>>>>>>>> certain conditions. Type 'core show license' for details.
>>>>>>>>>> =========================================================================
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Connected to Asterisk 1519 currently running on repeater (pid =
>>>>>>>>>> 1143)
>>>>>>>>>> repeater*CLI>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 73, Steve N4IRS
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 12/12/2015 12:44 AM, Neil k8it wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>>>>> I have been evaluating Dial on a Linux PC
>>>>>>>>>>> Observations
>>>>>>>>>>> 1. When asterisk crashes, there is no restart or watchdog
>>>>>>>>>>> 2.this makes debugging very difficult
>>>>>>>>>>> 3.asterisk service mode restart does not seem to work
>>>>>>>>>>> 4. in this mode remote SSH to restart is not possible
>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have any fixes planned?
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>> 73 Neil Sablatzky  K8IT
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>>>>>>>>>> 1st Law of Logic
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