[App_rpt-users] Wide area traffic tradeoff

[mike at midnighteng.com]

While I echo many of Doug's comments,

I would like to inject a perspective that wide-area continuous links
should have a target purpose in mind. Such as covering the stretch of a
interstate highway or to cover areas where there are little to no roads
...etc. A purpose.

To do it only to have some chatter on your machine is not necessarily a
wise move but to each his own. You would be much better off finding other
regional systems to make your own mini-wide-link for more chatter. Folks
closer to each other will have more in common and purpose of a everyday
link.

It has been obvious to me that when to many local systems are tied to a
linked group, it deters conversation rather than promote it. Folks are
afraid to have a simple chat on known wide systems. For what exact
reasons, I have not been able to figure out but it is there.

I think allstar wide-area links shine best when we do this for special
events like nets of a common interest. Linking only for the event and not
continuous everyday. I personally would like to see more of this type of
linking.
I have pledged one node to simply "tune-in" to nets happening on the
system. It is the most interesting way of connecting people and sharing
their ideas and keeping some fresh flavors of interest. Unfortunately, we
have so few amateur nets around to tune into.


...mike/kb8jnm


> One of the big advantages of Allstar is the ability to connect any number
> of groups or individuals together at will. This generally solves a lot of
> the political problems which exist in other voip systems like IRLP where
> reflectors are "owned" by an individual and become like repeaters where
> not everyone is always welcome and constraints are put on use. You have
> two choices, connect to a single other node or a reflector.
>
> But Allstar's ability to allow infinite connections can also lead to
> problems. There seems to be a mentality among a few that the more nodes we
> can connect together the better. Some people like pileups, the WAN system
> is an example. For day to day use I am not sure what "wide area" buys you.
> I prefer a group of people that generally know each other with a few
> others popping in from time to time. If you like this approach then start
> your own mini hub and get your friends or other local nodes to connect to
> one place and as time goes on your will establish a group. The nodes could
> be local to you or anywhere in the world. Once people realize it is a nice
> place to meet it will grow. It you don't generally advertise it you won't
> get a lot of additional connections beyond the group you establish.
>
> In the Philadelphia area we have established a nice local group of nodes
> which cover a fairly large area and since a prime vacation area for Philly
> residents is the Jersey shore we cover that area also. In addition there
> are several out of state nodes that connect in. There are also many nets
> that take place daily. The Alaska Morning Net is an example. We carry that
> one day a week for an hour but it is your option how you would connect to
> other places. Net connections could be setup to connect automatically at a
> designated time. I have been giving talks to local clubs and just about
> all the nodes connected to my Philly hub are new within the last year.
> Business has picked up especially with the advent of the BBB. Maybe you
> can get more users online in your area.
>
> If you take this approach after awhile most everyone knows each other and
> it becomes a nice group, somewhat like a club repeater would operate.
> Educate you users to NOT connect the local hub to the WAN system or any
> other large network. We had a problem with that for awhile but once the
> users understand this is not IRLP and you can connect to multiple places
> they disconnect from the wide networks before connecting to the local hub.
>    73 Doug
> WA3DSP
> http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
>
>
> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 09:00:13 -0700
> From: electricity440 at gmail.com
> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Wide area traffic tradeoff
>
> The win system and the wan system are both great systems because of the
> sheer coverage, but during pileups, it might be hard to say hi to your
> friend across the country. And then theres so many random keyups like on
> the WIN system for example. On thanksgiving, I there was like 100 short
> keyups in a row without ID.
> What is the best compromise between a wide coverage, and the amount of
> traffic on the system?
> --
> Skyler Fennellamsatnet.infoKDØWHBelectricity440 at gmail.com
>
>
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