[App_rpt-users] statistics server...

Keith Goobie keith at goobie.org
Thu Jun 11 14:04:25 UTC 2015


Seeing the same on nodes 2257 and 2258.

Keith


On 6/11/15 9:26 AM, "Alberto Enrique Puig" <alberto_e_puig at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> 
> Hi everybody, I wonder if the AllStar Link statistics server is having some
> difficulties. I have 3 allstar nodes and suddenly, no reports in this server.
> 
> Thanks, Alberto KP4AP
> 
> 
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>> > Subject: App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 76, Issue 24
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>> > Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 01:47:22 -0400
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>> >    1. Re: Setting Up a Remote Base w/RTCM (R. Wayne)
>> >    2. Re: Setting Up a Remote Base w/RTCM (R. Wayne)
>> >    3. Re: Setting Up a Remote Base w/RTCM (KD8USF)
>> > 
>> > 
>> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> > Message: 1
>> > Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 20:53:16 -0700
>> > From: "R. Wayne" <allstar at controlservers.net>
>> > To: "Jeff Carrier" <k0jsc.jeff at gmail.com>
>> > Cc: app_rpt mailing list <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
>> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Setting Up a Remote Base w/RTCM
>> > Message-ID: <C5976060B63E40A8970097FB79D00E67 at delllaptop>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> > 
>> > I have Radio Doctor but it states that it will not activate the accessory
>> pins on the back ? just the frequency and PL info.
>> > 
>> > From: Jeff Carrier
>> > Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 4:17 PM
>> > To: R. Wayne 
>> > Cc: app_rpt mailing list
>> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Setting Up a Remote Base w/RTCM
>> > 
>> > The GM300 and M120 can be programmed by a piece of windows software called
>> "radio doctor" that works quite well. Radio Doctor is not motorola software
>> so i'm assuming it's perfectly legal.
>> > 
>> > On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 11:36 AM, R. Wayne <allstar at controlservers.net>
>> wrote:
>> > 
>> >   Our remote base isn?t cutting it. It is half-duplex using a Vertex
>> VX-4200. We are told that the audio has no bottom, it is sending CWID that it
>> hears from the repeater (I knew why) and is sending pulses. I didn?t set the
>> hardware or software up, so as I ask please know that I am at the top of a
>> mountain and the remote base at the bottom where we have internet. Here?s
>> what we are dealing with. Our intent is to attach the RTCM at the repeater
>> site once we have internet up there. Until then...
>> > 
>> >   The DB-15 on the back of the Vertex VX-4200 is *almost* capable of being
>> used as a repeater controller output.
>> > 
>> >   Pin 1 = TX Audio
>> >   Pin 2 = RX Audio
>> >   Pin 6 = External PTT
>> >   Pin 9 = COR (see notes)
>> >   Pin 15 = GRND
>> > 
>> >   COR is achieved by creating voltage divider using other pins. Only then
>> will one get COR but not COS. PL will only make it to the speaker on the
>> front panel and rear jack. PL IS NOT on pin 2. Pin 2 is squelched but when it
>> receives the repeater?s built-in controller (a Motorola MSF-5000). Every time
>> our CWID goes off our remote base sends it to everyone.
>> > 
>> >   Here are the problems. First, we?re told that we are committing link
>> abuse by ?jumping? or key clicking every time someone else transmits on a
>> node our node replies. I don?t know what I am talking bout at this point. :-)
>> > 
>> >   Next I am told that our audio has no bottom end. No bass. The pin that
>> we?re able to pull from is the only source that we?re aware of and is the pin
>> used by Vertex to send audio to their VRS (mobile repeater).
>> > 
>> >   http://www.shercoares.org/doc_files/manuals/vx4200_sm.pdf
>> > 
>> >   I?ve been told to turn PL off and let the repeater pass through the tone.
>> But please remember that pin 2 has no PL on it. Only the front panel speaker
>> and rear speaker jack audio are muted by PL.
>> > 
>> >   The easiest solution may be a GM300 but I cannot get the darn software on
>> our old 386 laptop. The floppy decided to only read those created by itself.
>> We?re puckered up on this one.
>> > 
>> >   Suggestions are appeciated.
>> > 
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>> > Message: 2
>> > Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 20:55:29 -0700
>> > From: "R. Wayne" <allstar at controlservers.net>
>> > To: "KD8USF" <kd8usf at yahoo.com>, <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
>> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Setting Up a Remote Base w/RTCM
>> > Message-ID: <EAF6970A8C9F4353BB06ACE2A87DEE63 at delllaptop>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> > 
>> > That explains it very well. But the MSF isn?t the problem yet, I don?
>> think. Isn?t it the remote base? Once we connect the RTCM to the MSF and it
>> controls the MSF and does the CWIDs won?t this issue disappear?
>> > 
>> > From: KD8USF 
>> > Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 8:00 PM
>> > To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Setting Up a Remote Base w/RTCM
>> > 
>> > The reason why you are seeing the pulse go over the link is because when
>> the link radio unkeys it hears the repeater tail and therefore keys up the
>> link again. I also run an MSF5000, it does the CWID with no PL which keeps
>> the ID off the link unless someone kerchunks the repeater while it's ID'ing.
>> One way to stop the pulsing would be to set no tail on the repeater, but if
>> you're like me I have at least a 2 sec tail because I don't want the repeater
>> going up and down all the time like a simplex radio, and with no tail you
>> would not hear the repeater come back to you when you keyed it up.
>> > Andrew.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
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>> > From: R. Wayne <allstar at controlservers.net>
>> > To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>> > Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 1:36 PM
>> > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Setting Up a Remote Base w/RTCM
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Our remote base isn?t cutting it. It is half-duplex using a Vertex VX-4200.
>> We are told that the audio has no bottom, it is sending CWID that it hears
>> from the repeater (I knew why) and is sending pulses. I didn?t set the
>> hardware or software up, so as I ask please know that I am at the top of a
>> mountain and the remote base at the bottom where we have internet. Here?s
>> what we are dealing with. Our intent is to attach the RTCM at the repeater
>> site once we have internet up there. Until then...
>> > 
>> > The DB-15 on the back of the Vertex VX-4200 is *almost* capable of being
>> used as a repeater controller output.
>> > 
>> > Pin 1 = TX Audio
>> > Pin 2 = RX Audio
>> > Pin 6 = External PTT
>> > Pin 9 = COR (see notes)
>> > Pin 15 = GRND
>> > 
>> > COR is achieved by creating voltage divider using other pins. Only then
>> will one get COR but not COS. PL will only make it to the speaker on the
>> front panel and rear jack. PL IS NOT on pin 2. Pin 2 is squelched but when it
>> receives the repeater?s built-in controller (a Motorola MSF-5000). Every time
>> our CWID goes off our remote base sends it to everyone.
>> > 
>> > Here are the problems. First, we?re told that we are committing link abuse
>> by ?jumping? or key clicking every time someone else transmits on a node our
>> node replies. I don?t know what I am talking bout at this point. :-)
>> > 
>> > Next I am told that our audio has no bottom end. No bass. The pin that
>> we?re able to pull from is the only source that we?re aware of and is the pin
>> used by Vertex to send audio to their VRS (mobile repeater).
>> > 
>> > http://www.shercoares.org/doc_files/manuals/vx4200_sm.pdf
>> > 
>> > I?ve been told to turn PL off and let the repeater pass through the tone.
>> But please remember that pin 2 has no PL on it. Only the front panel speaker
>> and rear speaker jack audio are muted by PL.
>> > 
>> > The easiest solution may be a GM300 but I cannot get the darn software on
>> our old 386 laptop. The floppy decided to only read those created by itself.
>> We?re puckered up on this one.
>> > 
>> > Suggestions are appeciated.
>> > 
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>> > Message: 3
>> > Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 05:47:21 +0000 (UTC)
>> > From: KD8USF <kd8usf at yahoo.com>
>> > To: "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
>> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Setting Up a Remote Base w/RTCM
>> > Message-ID:
>> > <1010347713.800479.1434001641711.JavaMail.yahoo at mail.yahoo.com>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> > 
>> > With app_rpt in direct control of the repeater you can turn off the
>> internal ID and let app_rpt do the ID's and they won't be going over the link
>> Yes, the pulse comes from the remote base hearing the repeaters tail after it
>> unkeys. I was also going to mention, on the audio issue it sounds like you
>> have discriminator audio, I think there's a setting in rpt.conf to deal with
>> that, someone else will have to give you that info as i'm not exactly sure
>> what it needs to be set.
>> > Andrew.
>> > ?
>> > 
>> >       From: R. Wayne <allstar at controlservers.net>
>> >  To: KD8USF <kd8usf at yahoo.com>; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>> >  Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 11:55 PM
>> >  Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Setting Up a Remote Base w/RTCM
>> >    
>> > That explains it very well. But the MSF isn?t the problem yet, I don?
>> think. Isn?t it the remote base? Once we connect the RTCM to the MSF and it
>> controls the MSF and does the CWIDs won?t this issue disappear??
>> > 
>> > From: KD8USF Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 8:00 PMTo:
>> app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Setting Up a Remote
>> Base w/RTCM?The reason why you are seeing the pulse go over the link is
>> because when the link radio unkeys it hears the repeater tail and therefore
>> keys up the link again. I also run an MSF5000, it does the CWID with no PL
>> which keeps the ID off the link unless someone kerchunks the repeater while
>> it's ID'ing. One way to stop the pulsing would be to set no tail on the
>> repeater, but if you're like me I have at least a 2 sec tail because I don't
>> want the repeater going up and down all the time like a simplex radio, and
>> with no tail you would not hear the repeater come back to you when you keyed
>> it up.Andrew.???From: R. Wayne <allstar at controlservers.net>
>> > To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>> > Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 1:36 PM
>> > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Setting Up a Remote Base w/RTCM
>> > ?Our remote base isn?t cutting it. It is half-duplex using a Vertex
>> VX-4200. We are told that the audio has no bottom, it is sending CWID that it
>> hears from the repeater (I knew why) and is sending pulses. I didn?t set the
>> hardware or software up, so as I ask please know that I am at the top of a
>> mountain and the remote base at the bottom where we have internet. Here?s
>> what we are dealing with. Our intent is to attach the RTCM at the repeater
>> site once we have internet up there. Until then...?The DB-15 on the back of
>> the Vertex VX-4200 is *almost* capable of being used as a repeater controller
>> output.?Pin 1 = TX AudioPin 2 = RX AudioPin 6 = External PTTPin 9 = COR (see
>> notes)Pin 15 = GRND?COR is achieved by creating voltage divider using other
>> pins. Only then will one get COR but not COS. PL will only make it to the
>> speaker on the front panel and rear jack. PL IS NOT on pin 2. Pin 2 is
>> squelched but when it receives the repeater?s built-in controller (a Motorola
>> MSF-5000). Ev
>> >  ery time our CWID goes off our remote base sends it to everyone.?Here are
>> the problems. First, we?re told that we are committing link abuse by
>> ?jumping? or key clicking every time someone else transmits on a node our
>> node replies. I don?t know what I am talking bout at this point. :-)?Next I
>> am told that our audio has no bottom end. No bass. The pin that we?re able to
>> pull from is the only source that we?re aware of and is the pin used by
>> Vertex to send audio to their VRS (mobile
>> repeater).?http://www.shercoares.org/doc_files/manuals/vx4200_sm.pdf?I?ve
>> been told to turn PL off and let the repeater pass through the tone. But
>> please remember that pin 2 has no PL on it. Only the front panel speaker and
>> rear speaker jack audio are muted by PL.?The easiest solution may be a GM300
>> but I cannot get the darn software on our old 386 laptop. The floppy decided
>> to only read those created by itself. We?re puckered up on this
>> one.?Suggestions are appeciated.
>> > _______________________________________________
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