[App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 88, Issue 17
Sam Skolfield
kj6qfs at gmail.com
Mon Jun 6 19:57:48 UTC 2016
Jeff, are you using the RTCMs internal crystal or are you injecting an
external GPSDO derived 9.6MHz?
On Monday, June 6, 2016, Jeff Carrier <k0jsc.jeff at gmail.com> wrote:
> Trust me, a GPS-discipline OCXO isn't enough in your overlap areas. Mine
> have 50+ ,miles between overlap zones (transmitters are 100+ miles apart)
> and you'll still hear garbled signals in the overlap.
>
> Keep in mind, public safety spends tens even hundreds of thousands of
> dollars to do this very same thing!
>
> Am I saying don't try it. Not even a little! Experiment and have fun!
> I'm just sharing my own experiences.
>
> I had the rare opportunity to speak with Jim on the phone a while back and
> this came up. If I could only remember, comprehend and apply even 25% of
> what we talked about I'd be light years ahead!
>
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>> 1. Re: RTCM Simulcast question (David McGough)
>> 2. Current signal strength (Skyler F)
>> 3. Re: App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 88, Issue 16 (Jeff Carrier)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 12:06:57 -0400 (EDT)
>> From: David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net
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>> If you GPS-discipline that OCXO, I think it would be more than adequate.
>> Since you've already got the 1 PPS GPS signal, all that should be needed
>> in addition to the OCXO/Si5351 is a little $3 Arduino board (like:
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/131702108124 ) to program the desired output
>> frequency(s) and perform compensation.
>>
>> $16 for an OCXO ---NICE! ...The whole project maybe $25!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 6 Jun 2016, Joe Moskalski wrote:
>>
>> > I mentioned this to someone else, QRP Labs has a kit that creates a OCXO
>> > around the Si5351 chip. here is the link:
>> >
>> > http://www.qrp-labs.com/ocxokit.html
>> >
>> > If you couple this with another kit of theirs you can program it it any
>> > frequency you want. My only thought is would it be accurate/stable
>> enough.
>> >
>> > http://www.qrp-labs.com/progrock.html
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> > On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 11:36 AM, David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kb4fxc at inttek.net');>> wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Hi Joe,
>> > >
>> > > While on the subject of the Si5351 chips, the application of
>> converting
>> > > one reference clock to a secondary frequency is what they were
>> designed
>> > > for. So, since you've already got a GPS reference, this -might- be an
>> > > inexpensive starting point...For this application, you obviously won't
>> > > need all the bells and whistles presented in this article! See:
>> > >
>> > > http://www.knology.net/~gmarcus/Si5351/Si5351_VFO_QEX.pdf
>> > > http://www.knology.net/~gmarcus
>> > >
>> > > Note that I would replace the Si5351 25MHz reference with a decent
>> TCXO
>> > > (available on ebay, etc.)....Note that I haven't used the Si5351 with
>> an
>> > > RTCM, there may be simpler/better ways???
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 73, David KB4FXC
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, 6 Jun 2016, Joe Moskalski wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > > It seems clear that in order for simulcast to work properly with
>> the
>> > > RTCM
>> > > > > I will need to clock the CPU to the GPSDO. Is there a device
>> available
>> > > to
>> > > > > give you the 9.6 mhz reference from the 10 mhz out from the GPSDO
>> or
>> > > does
>> > > > > anyone have a schematic available so that I can build them myself?
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > <
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 10:23:34 -0600
>> From: Skyler F <electricity440 at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','electricity440 at gmail.com');>>
>> To: "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org');>" <
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>> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Current signal strength
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>> So I just had this idea to analyze 2 meter band openings, find a weak
>> 162MHz weather station and have a dummy app_rpt node Receive that signal.
>> Using DSP, Then print the current strength to a file, and graph it.
>>
>> Is there any way to get the current signal strength and store it in a bash
>> variable or something?
>>
>> 73
>> Skyler kd0whb
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>> From: Jeff Carrier <k0jsc.jeff at gmail.com
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>> The RTCM and simulcast DOES work. As mentioned before, you have to be
>> using a transmitter that can accept a 10 mHz (or whatever) reference
>> signal. You also need 1 PPS for your receivers and transmitter. You also
>> need to sync the RTCM to your GPSDO (which I have not done). If you have
>> not done all this you WILL hear some "funk" in the overlap areas.
>>
>> That "funk" can go from usable to un-usable depending on how strong the
>> transmitters are in the overlap region.
>>
>> Pardon the "non-technical" terms. It does work but the law of physics do
>> apply here.
>>
>> de K0JSC
>>
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>> > 1. Re: audio for direct VCO FM (Joe Leikhim) (Steve Wright)
>> > 2. Re: RTCM Simulcast question (Steve Wright)
>> > 3. Re: audio for direct VCO FM: Si5351B (David McGough)
>> > 4. Re: RTCM Simulcast question (Joe Moskalski)
>> > 5. Re: RTCM Simulcast question (David McGough)
>> > 6. Re: RTCM Simulcast question (Joe Moskalski)
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>> > Message: 1
>> > Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 19:40:50 +1200
>> > From: Steve Wright <info at meshnetworks.co.nz
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','info at meshnetworks.co.nz');>>
>> > To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
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>> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] audio for direct VCO FM (Joe Leikhim)
>> > Message-ID: <57552902.9070008 at meshnetworks.co.nz
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','57552902.9070008 at meshnetworks.co.nz');>>
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>> > On 04/06/16 04:00, Joe Leikhim <rhyolite at leikhim.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rhyolite at leikhim.com');>> wrote:
>> > > Assuming the VCO is part of a PLL, the PLL will tend to "correct" the
>> > > modulation, [....]
>> >
>> > Was planning to use the Si5351B - has VCO input.
>> >
>> > S
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
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>> > Message: 2
>> > Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 20:22:36 +1200
>> > From: Steve Wright <info at meshnetworks.co.nz
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','info at meshnetworks.co.nz');>>
>> > To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org');>
>> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] RTCM Simulcast question
>> > Message-ID: <575532CC.2020304 at meshnetworks.co.nz
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','575532CC.2020304 at meshnetworks.co.nz');>>
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>> >
>> > On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Joe Moskalski <kc2irv at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kc2irv at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > I will be setting up a 2 site UHF simulcast system in the coming
>> months
>> >
>> > Huh? I was told (on this list) that simulcast TX "doesn't work".
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > S
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
>> >
>> > Message: 3
>> > Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 10:46:38 -0400 (EDT)
>> > From: David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kb4fxc at inttek.net');>>
>> > To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
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>> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] audio for direct VCO FM: Si5351B
>> > Message-ID:
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>> >
>> > Hi Steve,
>> >
>> > We're getting way off topic for the mailing list, but, I thought I'd
>> post
>> > this reply here if there are any other interested hams out there,
>> perhaps
>> > who are also experimenting in this area.
>> >
>> > I haven't played with the Si5351B version of this interesting chip,
>> yet. I
>> > wonder whether the voltage control input of this chip would be suitable
>> > for AF FM modulation? Assuming that you could modulate the VCXO at audio
>> > frequencies (the datasheet isn't completely clear to me about that), an
>> > immediate issue would be that everytime you change the fractional-N
>> > division ratio, you'll change the modulation index. This will have to be
>> > compensated for, one way or another.
>> >
>> > I've been playing with several boards with Si5351 chips. They're pretty
>> > neat. They're also pretty noisy! ...With both spurious and phase noise.
>> > The phase noise can be improved somewhat with a better external crystal
>> > oscillator, the spurs seem more challenging. Using the on-board VCXO
>> with
>> > the 5351B, you can't use a high quality external oscillator, so phase
>> > noise and overall frequency stability could be an issue, too.
>> >
>> > Anyhow, for my applications, I'm following the Si5351 with a secondary
>> > clean-up VCO/PLL, which was already in the radios. I just needed a
>> > frequency-agile reference oscillator, so to speak. I think the Si5351
>> will
>> > work well for this, based on my preliminary tests! (I'd certainly like
>> to
>> > hear the experiences from anyone who has already been down this road!)
>> >
>> > I guess you're not finding any local sources of surplus radios? Do you
>> > have any 6m power amps available?
>> >
>> >
>> > 73, David KB4FXC
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, 6 Jun 2016, Steve Wright wrote:
>> >
>> > > On 04/06/16 04:00, Joe Leikhim <rhyolite at leikhim.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rhyolite at leikhim.com');>> wrote:
>> > > > Assuming the VCO is part of a PLL, the PLL will tend to "correct"
>> the
>> > > > modulation, [....]
>> > >
>> > > Was planning to use the Si5351B - has VCO input.
>> > >
>> > > S
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
>> >
>> > Message: 4
>> > Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 11:03:11 -0400
>> > From: Joe Moskalski <kc2irv at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kc2irv at gmail.com');>>
>> > To: App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
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>> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] RTCM Simulcast question
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>> > > It seems clear that in order for simulcast to work properly with the
>> RTCM
>> > > I will need to clock the CPU to the GPSDO. Is there a device
>> available to
>> > > give you the 9.6 mhz reference from the 10 mhz out from the GPSDO or
>> does
>> > > anyone have a schematic available so that I can build them myself?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > <
>> >
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>> > Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 11:36:01 -0400 (EDT)
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>> > Hi Joe,
>> >
>> > While on the subject of the Si5351 chips, the application of converting
>> > one reference clock to a secondary frequency is what they were designed
>> > for. So, since you've already got a GPS reference, this -might- be an
>> > inexpensive starting point...For this application, you obviously won't
>> > need all the bells and whistles presented in this article! See:
>> >
>> > http://www.knology.net/~gmarcus/Si5351/Si5351_VFO_QEX.pdf
>> > http://www.knology.net/~gmarcus
>> >
>> > Note that I would replace the Si5351 25MHz reference with a decent TCXO
>> > (available on ebay, etc.)....Note that I haven't used the Si5351 with an
>> > RTCM, there may be simpler/better ways???
>> >
>> >
>> > 73, David KB4FXC
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, 6 Jun 2016, Joe Moskalski wrote:
>> >
>> > > > It seems clear that in order for simulcast to work properly with the
>> > RTCM
>> > > > I will need to clock the CPU to the GPSDO. Is there a device
>> available
>> > to
>> > > > give you the 9.6 mhz reference from the 10 mhz out from the GPSDO or
>> > does
>> > > > anyone have a schematic available so that I can build them myself?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > <
>> >
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>> > Message: 6
>> > Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 11:54:11 -0400
>> > From: Joe Moskalski <kc2irv at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kc2irv at gmail.com');>>
>> > To: David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kb4fxc at inttek.net');>>
>> > Cc: App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
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>> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] RTCM Simulcast question
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>> > I mentioned this to someone else, QRP Labs has a kit that creates a OCXO
>> > around the Si5351 chip. here is the link:
>> >
>> > http://www.qrp-labs.com/ocxokit.html
>> >
>> > If you couple this with another kit of theirs you can program it it any
>> > frequency you want. My only thought is would it be accurate/stable
>> enough.
>> >
>> > http://www.qrp-labs.com/progrock.html
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > <
>> >
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>> >
>> > On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 11:36 AM, David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kb4fxc at inttek.net');>> wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Hi Joe,
>> > >
>> > > While on the subject of the Si5351 chips, the application of
>> converting
>> > > one reference clock to a secondary frequency is what they were
>> designed
>> > > for. So, since you've already got a GPS reference, this -might- be an
>> > > inexpensive starting point...For this application, you obviously won't
>> > > need all the bells and whistles presented in this article! See:
>> > >
>> > > http://www.knology.net/~gmarcus/Si5351/Si5351_VFO_QEX.pdf
>> > > http://www.knology.net/~gmarcus
>> > >
>> > > Note that I would replace the Si5351 25MHz reference with a decent
>> TCXO
>> > > (available on ebay, etc.)....Note that I haven't used the Si5351 with
>> an
>> > > RTCM, there may be simpler/better ways???
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 73, David KB4FXC
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, 6 Jun 2016, Joe Moskalski wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > > It seems clear that in order for simulcast to work properly with
>> the
>> > > RTCM
>> > > > > I will need to clock the CPU to the GPSDO. Is there a device
>> > available
>> > > to
>> > > > > give you the 9.6 mhz reference from the 10 mhz out from the GPSDO
>> or
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