[App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 88, Issue 17

Sam Skolfield kj6qfs at gmail.com
Mon Jun 6 22:09:57 UTC 2016 

That seems like it would explain a good part of the overlap grunge you are
experiencing, even though you seem extremely confident when you say that
the OCXO driving the RTCM still "isn't enough" in overlap areas.

Out of curiosity do you have any firsthand experience with what we are
talking about? I'm not meaning to condescend here, but you seem very
confident that an OCXO driving the RTCM won't help on overlap areas,
despite what Jim has said multiple times on the list (see my links). Are we
missing something?

On Monday, June 6, 2016, Jeff Carrier <k0jsc.jeff at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sam,
>
> I'm not injecting 9.6 MHz into the RTCM.  At some point I'd like to give
> that a whirl but I'd need another device to take the 10 MHz and change it
> to 9.6.  That's another device that could fail on a mountain top.  One of
> my sites still isn't accessible and take 6 hours round trip in good
> weather.
>
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Sam Skolfield <kj6qfs at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kj6qfs at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Jeff, are you using the RTCMs internal crystal or are you injecting an
>> external GPSDO derived 9.6MHz?
>>
>> On Monday, June 6, 2016, Jeff Carrier <k0jsc.jeff at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','k0jsc.jeff at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>
>>> Trust me, a GPS-discipline OCXO isn't enough in your overlap areas.
>>> Mine have 50+ ,miles between overlap zones (transmitters are 100+ miles
>>> apart) and you'll still hear garbled signals in the overlap.
>>>
>>> Keep in mind, public safety spends tens even hundreds of thousands of
>>> dollars to do this very same thing!
>>>
>>> Am I saying don't try it.  Not even a little!  Experiment and have fun!
>>> I'm just sharing my own experiences.
>>>
>>> I had the rare opportunity to speak with Jim on the phone a while back
>>> and this came up.  If I could only remember, comprehend and apply even 25%
>>> of what we talked about I'd be light years ahead!
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 10:23 AM, <app_rpt-users-request at ohnosec.org>
>>> wrote:
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>>>>    1. Re: RTCM Simulcast question (David McGough)
>>>>    2. Current signal strength (Skyler F)
>>>>    3. Re: App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 88, Issue 16 (Jeff Carrier)
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>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 12:06:57 -0400 (EDT)
>>>> From: David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net>
>>>> To: App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] RTCM Simulcast question
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>         <Pine.LNX.4.44.1606061158330.10347-100000 at goliath.inttek.net>
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>>>>
>>>> If you GPS-discipline that OCXO, I think it would be more than adequate.
>>>> Since you've already got the 1 PPS GPS signal, all that should be needed
>>>> in addition to the OCXO/Si5351 is a little $3 Arduino board (like:
>>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/131702108124 ) to program the desired output
>>>> frequency(s) and perform compensation.
>>>>
>>>> $16 for an OCXO ---NICE! ...The whole project maybe $25!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 6 Jun 2016, Joe Moskalski wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > I mentioned this to someone else, QRP Labs has a kit that creates a
>>>> OCXO
>>>> > around the Si5351 chip. here is the link:
>>>> >
>>>> > http://www.qrp-labs.com/ocxokit.html
>>>> >
>>>> > If you couple this with another kit of theirs you can program it it
>>>> any
>>>> > frequency you want. My only thought is would it be accurate/stable
>>>> enough.
>>>> >
>>>> > http://www.qrp-labs.com/progrock.html
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > <
>>>> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon
>>>> >
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>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 11:36 AM, David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Hi Joe,
>>>> > >
>>>> > > While on the subject of the Si5351 chips, the application of
>>>> converting
>>>> > > one reference clock to a secondary frequency is what they were
>>>> designed
>>>> > > for. So, since you've already got a GPS reference, this -might- be
>>>> an
>>>> > > inexpensive starting point...For this application, you obviously
>>>> won't
>>>> > > need all the bells and whistles presented in this article! See:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > http://www.knology.net/~gmarcus/Si5351/Si5351_VFO_QEX.pdf
>>>> > > http://www.knology.net/~gmarcus
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Note that I would replace the Si5351 25MHz reference with a decent
>>>> TCXO
>>>> > > (available on ebay, etc.)....Note that I haven't used the Si5351
>>>> with an
>>>> > > RTCM, there may be simpler/better ways???
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > 73, David KB4FXC
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On Mon, 6 Jun 2016, Joe Moskalski wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > > > It seems clear that in order for simulcast to work properly
>>>> with the
>>>> > > RTCM
>>>> > > > > I will need to clock the CPU to the GPSDO. Is there a device
>>>> available
>>>> > > to
>>>> > > > > give you the 9.6 mhz reference from the 10 mhz out from the
>>>> GPSDO or
>>>> > > does
>>>> > > > > anyone have a schematic available so that I can build them
>>>> myself?
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > <
>>>> > >
>>>> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon
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>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 10:23:34 -0600
>>>> From: Skyler F <electricity440 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
>>>> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Current signal strength
>>>> Message-ID:
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>>>> So I just had this idea to analyze 2 meter band openings, find a weak
>>>> 162MHz weather station and have a dummy app_rpt node Receive that
>>>> signal.
>>>> Using DSP, Then print the current strength to a file, and graph it.
>>>>
>>>> Is there any way to get the current signal strength and store it in a
>>>> bash
>>>> variable or something?
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>> Skyler  kd0whb
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>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 10:23:32 -0600
>>>> From: Jeff Carrier <k0jsc.jeff at gmail.com>
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>>>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 88, Issue 16
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>>>> The RTCM and simulcast DOES work.  As mentioned before, you have to be
>>>> using a transmitter that can accept a 10 mHz (or whatever) reference
>>>> signal.  You also need 1 PPS for your receivers and transmitter.  You
>>>> also
>>>> need to sync the RTCM to your GPSDO (which I have not done).  If you
>>>> have
>>>> not done all this you WILL hear some "funk" in the overlap areas.
>>>>
>>>> That "funk" can go from usable to un-usable depending on how strong the
>>>> transmitters are in the overlap region.
>>>>
>>>> Pardon the "non-technical" terms.  It does work but the law of physics
>>>> do
>>>> apply here.
>>>>
>>>> de K0JSC
>>>>
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>>>> > Today's Topics:
>>>> >
>>>> >    1. Re: audio for direct VCO FM (Joe Leikhim) (Steve Wright)
>>>> >    2. Re: RTCM Simulcast question (Steve Wright)
>>>> >    3. Re: audio for direct VCO FM: Si5351B (David McGough)
>>>> >    4. Re: RTCM Simulcast question (Joe Moskalski)
>>>> >    5. Re: RTCM Simulcast question (David McGough)
>>>> >    6. Re: RTCM Simulcast question (Joe Moskalski)
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> >
>>>> > Message: 1
>>>> > Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 19:40:50 +1200
>>>> > From: Steve Wright <info at meshnetworks.co.nz>
>>>> > To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>>>> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] audio for direct VCO FM (Joe Leikhim)
>>>> > Message-ID: <57552902.9070008 at meshnetworks.co.nz>
>>>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>>>> >
>>>> > On 04/06/16 04:00, Joe Leikhim <rhyolite at leikhim.com> wrote:
>>>> > > Assuming the VCO is part of a PLL, the PLL will tend to "correct"
>>>> the
>>>> > > modulation, [....]
>>>> >
>>>> > Was planning to use the Si5351B - has VCO input.
>>>> >
>>>> > S
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > ------------------------------
>>>> >
>>>> > Message: 2
>>>> > Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 20:22:36 +1200
>>>> > From: Steve Wright <info at meshnetworks.co.nz>
>>>> > To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>>>> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] RTCM Simulcast question
>>>> > Message-ID: <575532CC.2020304 at meshnetworks.co.nz>
>>>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>>>> >
>>>> > On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Joe Moskalski <kc2irv at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > I will be setting up a 2 site UHF simulcast system in the coming
>>>> months
>>>> >
>>>> > Huh?  I was told (on this list) that simulcast TX "doesn't work".
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > S
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > ------------------------------
>>>> >
>>>> > Message: 3
>>>> > Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 10:46:38 -0400 (EDT)
>>>> > From: David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net>
>>>> > To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>>>> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] audio for direct VCO FM: Si5351B
>>>> > Message-ID:
>>>> >         <Pine.LNX.4.44.1606060946450.4196-100000 at goliath.inttek.net>
>>>> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Hi Steve,
>>>> >
>>>> > We're getting way off topic for the mailing list, but, I thought I'd
>>>> post
>>>> > this reply here if there are any other interested hams out there,
>>>> perhaps
>>>> > who are also experimenting in this area.
>>>> >
>>>> > I haven't played with the Si5351B version of this interesting chip,
>>>> yet. I
>>>> > wonder whether the voltage control input of this chip would be
>>>> suitable
>>>> > for AF FM modulation? Assuming that you could modulate the VCXO at
>>>> audio
>>>> > frequencies (the datasheet isn't completely clear to me about that),
>>>> an
>>>> > immediate issue would be that everytime you change the fractional-N
>>>> > division ratio, you'll change the modulation index. This will have to
>>>> be
>>>> > compensated for, one way or another.
>>>> >
>>>> > I've been playing with several boards with Si5351 chips. They're
>>>> pretty
>>>> > neat. They're also pretty noisy! ...With both spurious and phase
>>>> noise.
>>>> > The phase noise can be improved somewhat with a better external
>>>> crystal
>>>> > oscillator, the spurs seem more challenging.  Using the on-board VCXO
>>>> with
>>>> > the 5351B, you can't use a high quality external oscillator, so phase
>>>> > noise and overall frequency stability could be an issue, too.
>>>> >
>>>> > Anyhow, for my applications, I'm following the Si5351 with a secondary
>>>> > clean-up VCO/PLL, which was already in the radios. I just needed a
>>>> > frequency-agile reference oscillator, so to speak. I think the Si5351
>>>> will
>>>> > work well for this, based on my preliminary tests! (I'd certainly
>>>> like to
>>>> > hear the experiences from anyone who has already been down this road!)
>>>> >
>>>> > I guess you're not finding any local sources of surplus radios?  Do
>>>> you
>>>> > have any 6m power amps available?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > 73, David KB4FXC
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, 6 Jun 2016, Steve Wright wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > On 04/06/16 04:00, Joe Leikhim <rhyolite at leikhim.com> wrote:
>>>> > > > Assuming the VCO is part of a PLL, the PLL will tend to "correct"
>>>> the
>>>> > > > modulation, [....]
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Was planning to use the Si5351B - has VCO input.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > S
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > ------------------------------
>>>> >
>>>> > Message: 4
>>>> > Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 11:03:11 -0400
>>>> > From: Joe Moskalski <kc2irv at gmail.com>
>>>> > To: App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>>>> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] RTCM Simulcast question
>>>> > Message-ID:
>>>> >         <CAES28qxB06niu+nL4Y5QfUvgZFf-y8s=
>>>> > uZdH2afzxKnwr0HV+w at mail.gmail.com>
>>>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>> >
>>>> > > It seems clear that in order for simulcast to work properly with
>>>> the RTCM
>>>> > > I will need to clock the CPU to the GPSDO. Is there a device
>>>> available to
>>>> > > give you the 9.6 mhz reference from the 10 mhz out from the GPSDO
>>>> or does
>>>> > > anyone have a schematic available so that I can build them myself?
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > <
>>>> >
>>>> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon
>>>> > >
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>>>> > Message: 5
>>>> > Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 11:36:01 -0400 (EDT)
>>>> > From: David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net>
>>>> > To: App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>>>> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] RTCM Simulcast question
>>>> > Message-ID:
>>>> >         <Pine.LNX.4.44.1606061122550.4196-100000 at goliath.inttek.net>
>>>> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Hi Joe,
>>>> >
>>>> > While on the subject of the Si5351 chips, the application of
>>>> converting
>>>> > one reference clock to a secondary frequency is what they were
>>>> designed
>>>> > for. So, since you've already got a GPS reference, this -might- be an
>>>> > inexpensive starting point...For this application, you obviously won't
>>>> > need all the bells and whistles presented in this article! See:
>>>> >
>>>> > http://www.knology.net/~gmarcus/Si5351/Si5351_VFO_QEX.pdf
>>>> > http://www.knology.net/~gmarcus
>>>> >
>>>> > Note that I would replace the Si5351 25MHz reference with a decent
>>>> TCXO
>>>> > (available on ebay, etc.)....Note that I haven't used the Si5351 with
>>>> an
>>>> > RTCM, there may be simpler/better ways???
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > 73, David KB4FXC
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, 6 Jun 2016, Joe Moskalski wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > > It seems clear that in order for simulcast to work properly with
>>>> the
>>>> > RTCM
>>>> > > > I will need to clock the CPU to the GPSDO. Is there a device
>>>> available
>>>> > to
>>>> > > > give you the 9.6 mhz reference from the 10 mhz out from the GPSDO
>>>> or
>>>> > does
>>>> > > > anyone have a schematic available so that I can build them myself?
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > <
>>>> >
>>>> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Virus-free.
>>>> > > www.avast.com
>>>> > > <
>>>> >
>>>> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link
>>>> > >
>>>> > > <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > ------------------------------
>>>> >
>>>> > Message: 6
>>>> > Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 11:54:11 -0400
>>>> > From: Joe Moskalski <kc2irv at gmail.com>
>>>> > To: David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net>
>>>> > Cc: App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>>>> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] RTCM Simulcast question
>>>> > Message-ID:
>>>> >         <
>>>> > CAES28qx-G3wytTXKMRVvzMNm+498_c-aeNB6JrTWmZOR7A7ZcA at mail.gmail.com>
>>>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>> >
>>>> > I mentioned this to someone else, QRP Labs has a kit that creates a
>>>> OCXO
>>>> > around the Si5351 chip. here is the link:
>>>> >
>>>> > http://www.qrp-labs.com/ocxokit.html
>>>> >
>>>> > If you couple this with another kit of theirs you can program it it
>>>> any
>>>> > frequency you want. My only thought is would it be accurate/stable
>>>> enough.
>>>> >
>>>> > http://www.qrp-labs.com/progrock.html
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > <
>>>> >
>>>> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon
>>>> > >
>>>> > Virus-free.
>>>> > www.avast.com
>>>> > <
>>>> >
>>>> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link
>>>> > >
>>>> > <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 11:36 AM, David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Hi Joe,
>>>> > >
>>>> > > While on the subject of the Si5351 chips, the application of
>>>> converting
>>>> > > one reference clock to a secondary frequency is what they were
>>>> designed
>>>> > > for. So, since you've already got a GPS reference, this -might- be
>>>> an
>>>> > > inexpensive starting point...For this application, you obviously
>>>> won't
>>>> > > need all the bells and whistles presented in this article! See:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > http://www.knology.net/~gmarcus/Si5351/Si5351_VFO_QEX.pdf
>>>> > > http://www.knology.net/~gmarcus
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Note that I would replace the Si5351 25MHz reference with a decent
>>>> TCXO
>>>> > > (available on ebay, etc.)....Note that I haven't used the Si5351
>>>> with an
>>>> > > RTCM, there may be simpler/better ways???
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > 73, David KB4FXC
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On Mon, 6 Jun 2016, Joe Moskalski wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > > > It seems clear that in order for simulcast to work properly
>>>> with the
>>>> > > RTCM
>>>> > > > > I will need to clock the CPU to the GPSDO. Is there a device
>>>> > available
>>>> > > to
>>>> > > > > give you the 9.6 mhz reference from the 10 mhz out from the
>>>> GPSDO or
>>>> > > does
>>>> > > > > anyone have a schematic available so that I can build them
>>>> myself?
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > <
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Virus-free.
>>>> > > > www.avast.com
>>>> > > > <
>>>> > >
>>>> >
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