[App_rpt-users] Alternative to WebTransceiver java applet

Steve Zingman szingman at msgstor.com
Mon Apr 17 14:49:40 UTC 2017 

Loren,
You missed my comment about one size fits all. A app written for a 
mobile device will take advantage of options not available to a web 
interface. It is far better to use a app written for the platform. For 
the web platform HTML5 may be a good choice. The Web Transceiver talks 
to the ASL network via IAX.

73, Steve N4IRS

On 4/17/2017 10:33 AM, Loren Tedford wrote:
> Steve I still like the idea that we are at least talking about fixing 
> the Web Transceiver if i knew a little more about it maybe we could 
> figure out how to make the web transceiver work in html mostly instead 
> of java.. If this can be done this will mean its comparable via any 
> mobile web browser out on the market today..  All the user would have 
> to do is login to the website etc.. So exactly how does the web 
> transceiver talk to the allstarlink network??? What exactly is going 
> on in the back end of things??
>
> Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV)
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> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 7:47 AM, Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com 
> <mailto:szingman at msgstor.com>> wrote:
>
>     As I said, The Web Transceiver code is being looked at to evaluate
>     if and how it can be moved forward.  A one size fits all solution
>     will not adequately work on all platforms. Support for mobile
>     devices is a must. As of right now for access to specific nodes
>     the choices are Zopier and Android IAXRPT. Zopier runs on IOS and
>     Android. Android IAXRPT of course runs on Android and is tailored
>     to AllStarLink nodes. The Web Transceiver is more general.
>
>     73, Steve N4IRS
>
>     On 4/16/2017 10:54 PM, Matthew Pitts wrote:
>>     Yes, kids were the target audience of the Raspberry Pi, but look
>>     at what Hams have done with it, in its various forms. AllStar
>>     nodes, whether DIAL or the distribution Doug helped develop.
>>     Multi-mode Digital Voice nodes using various interface devices
>>     like the MMDVM or DVAP/DV-RPTR/DVMEGA. Echolink/IRLP nodes. If we
>>     really want to get the attention of teens and twenty-somethings,
>>     and keep it, we need to adapt our tactics to the way they live;
>>     how often do you see one without a smartphone somewhere on their
>>     person? Create an app (or two, as iOS should be covered too) that
>>     supports the features of the current Web Transceiver and you'll
>>     have a tool that everyone can use and still have the browser free
>>     for other things.
>>
>>     Matthew Pitts
>>     N8OHU
>>     -- 
>>     Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>>
>>     On April 15, 2017 6:48:44 PM EDT, Thor Wiegman
>>     <n7jct at aplaceonthe.net> <mailto:n7jct at aplaceonthe.net> wrote:
>>
>>         It comes as no surprise that someone like Doug would have
>>         little or no need for the web transceiver.  Most of us on
>>         this list won't have use for it.  Anyone who's come so far as
>>         to building their own node and subscribing to this list has
>>         likely exceeded what that web transceiver could do for them.
>>
>>         Consider however that there is a different market, a
>>         different audience for a web transceiver.  I know that I'm
>>         not the only one who got involved in this through exploration
>>         with the web transceiver.
>>
>>         So I think there is benefit in having such a simple tool.  It
>>         can be, if it works well and is designed properly, a great
>>         tool for someone to take that first step in finding out what
>>         all this is about.
>>
>>         Consider the target audience of the Raspberry Pi. Getting
>>         kids into programming and using these devices to do things,
>>         control things and such.  Ham radio needs to attract, and
>>         keep, the attention of that same audience.  App_rpt and
>>         Allstarlink are great for that.  But this audience doesn't
>>         come to us with anything more than a very basic, novice
>>         background at first.  A web transceiver seems like a handy
>>         tool for those new young hams to explore.
>>
>>         There's my long winded $0.02
>>         73
>>         Thor (N7JCT)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>         Subject:
>>>         Re: [App_rpt-users] Alternative to WebTransceiver java applet
>>>         From:
>>>         Doug Crompton <wa3dsp at gmail.com> <mailto:wa3dsp at gmail.com>
>>>         Date:
>>>         04/15/2017 01:24 PM
>>>
>>>         To:
>>>         Users of Asterisk app_rpt
>>>         <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
>>>         <mailto:app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
>>>
>>>
>>>         If you must have the web transceiver there are ways around
>>>         the problem
>>
>>
>>
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