[App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 96, Issue 19

Mon Feb 6 17:48:54 UTC 2017

Good to see you Kirk,

It's been a while but your response is exactly as I would have expected ;)

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 10:35 AM, <
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> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 09:18:12 -0800
> From: Kirk Just Kirk <wb6egr at gmail.com>
> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 96, Issue 7
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> You are not alone! I had numbers 310 and 320 WAY back when. Then we started
> running IRLP on the same platform and Dave Cameron went NUTS! Remember the
> threat to yank our PGP keys?
> Well that was all i needed to hear. I told Cameron to shove my 2 node
> numbers up his ass (keys included) and never looked back. Nodes 2155-2159
> were born.
> IRLP is like cruising in a old "Escort"...running on 3 cylinders, a AM
> radio that gets 2 stations, no AC, manual windows and a big spring that
> pokes you in the ass.Does it run? well yeah kinda.
> Dave Cameron was PISSED! Allstar was cutting in on his ability to sell a
> SSI-202 chip and a small "peek & Poke" board for $170..and you get a node
> number tossed in for free...
> You were not allowed to set it up yourself, one of Daves minnions had to
> download you, you got treated like the cable company treats you.
> IRLP changed the ham world like the invention of the automobile, Jim and
> Steve brought it into the 21st century....enjoy the smooth ride.
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 7:50 AM, JJC <cummingsj at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I am very turned off of IRLP by the overall attitude of the "team" that
> > seems against the spirit of Amateur Radio in my opinion.  You contrast
> that
> > with Allstar that is opensourced and based on a well know and supported
> OSS
> > PBX software with good (positive) community support and participation,
> > that's enough for me to be very happy.
> >
> > Sent from the iRoad
> >
> > On Feb 5, 2017, at 19:18, Lu V <luvencl8 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I used IRLP back in the day, but when I started to get flak from one of
> > his cronies, and I was actually called a lid at one point, that's when I
> > realized that it was time to move on and make a change towards a real
> open
> > source platform which is much more advanced and has great people willing
> to
> > help out.. All of the proprietary and political crap that went on on that
> > network was enough to make one puke! Sorry, I'm just telling you how it
> was
> > and the faster I got away from IRLP the better off I was. I don't miss it
> > at all!
> >
> > Lu Vencl
> >
> > On Feb 4, 2017, at 13:13, Jeff Carrier <k0jsc.jeff at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Folks will migrate to the better option naturally.  I'm already seeing
> > that sort of migration here.  I can do a lot more with allstar than any
> of
> > the other available options.  Allstar is also actively developed.
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 10:00 AM, <app_rpt-users-request at lists.
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> >>    1. Re: experimental reflector irlp (Bryan Fields)
> >>
> >>
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> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 10:55:08 -0500
> >> From: Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net>
> >> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] experimental reflector irlp
> >> Message-ID: <91bc750a-b1e9-a4a6-a522-0b7e2a02d745 at bryanfields.net>
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> >> On 2/4/17 10:28 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
> >> > Can't agree. Mr. Cameron has made his views on that pretty clear. Let
> >> him have his closed off proprietary sandbox.
> >>
> >> Fuck him, it's source code, and code has no politics.  If people want to
> >> use
> >> it they should be free to do so.  If he wants to ban users from his
> >> network so
> >> be it.
> >>
> >> More users he bans the faster irlp dies.  I see the irlp channel driver
> as
> >> being a migration tool.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Bryan Fields
> >>
> >> 727-409-1194 - Voice
> >> http://bryanfields.net
> >>
> >>
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> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 09:35:13 -0800
> From: David Shaw <shawpbx at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 96, Issue 7
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> Kirk do you hate Fords. Can you tell us how you really feel about Fords.
> LOL "GO Mopar"
>
> David
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks, David
>
> "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither
> inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for
> the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage
> than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater
> confidence than an armed one."
> Thomas Jefferson
>
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 9:18 AM, Kirk Just Kirk <wb6egr at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > You are not alone! I had numbers 310 and 320 WAY back when. Then we
> > started running IRLP on the same platform and Dave Cameron went NUTS!
> > Remember the threat to yank our PGP keys?
> > Well that was all i needed to hear. I told Cameron to shove my 2 node
> > numbers up his ass (keys included) and never looked back. Nodes 2155-2159
> > were born.
> > IRLP is like cruising in a old "Escort"...running on 3 cylinders, a AM
> > radio that gets 2 stations, no AC, manual windows and a big spring that
> > pokes you in the ass.Does it run? well yeah kinda.
> > Dave Cameron was PISSED! Allstar was cutting in on his ability to sell a
> > SSI-202 chip and a small "peek & Poke" board for $170..and you get a node
> > number tossed in for free...
> > You were not allowed to set it up yourself, one of Daves minnions had to
> > download you, you got treated like the cable company treats you.
> > IRLP changed the ham world like the invention of the automobile, Jim and
> > Steve brought it into the 21st century....enjoy the smooth ride.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 7:50 AM, JJC <cummingsj at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I am very turned off of IRLP by the overall attitude of the "team" that
> >> seems against the spirit of Amateur Radio in my opinion.  You contrast
> that
> >> with Allstar that is opensourced and based on a well know and supported
> OSS
> >> PBX software with good (positive) community support and participation,
> >> that's enough for me to be very happy.
> >>
> >> Sent from the iRoad
> >>
> >> On Feb 5, 2017, at 19:18, Lu V <luvencl8 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I used IRLP back in the day, but when I started to get flak from one of
> >> his cronies, and I was actually called a lid at one point, that's when I
> >> realized that it was time to move on and make a change towards a real
> open
> >> source platform which is much more advanced and has great people
> willing to
> >> help out.. All of the proprietary and political crap that went on on
> that
> >> network was enough to make one puke! Sorry, I'm just telling you how it
> was
> >> and the faster I got away from IRLP the better off I was. I don't miss
> it
> >> at all!
> >>
> >> Lu Vencl
> >>
> >> On Feb 4, 2017, at 13:13, Jeff Carrier <k0jsc.jeff at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Folks will migrate to the better option naturally.  I'm already seeing
> >> that sort of migration here.  I can do a lot more with allstar than any
> of
> >> the other available options.  Allstar is also actively developed.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 10:00 AM, <app_rpt-users-request at lists.a
> >> llstarlink.org> wrote:
> >>
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> >>> than "Re: Contents of App_rpt-users digest..."
> >>>
> >>> This site is dedicated to the memory of Jim Dixon WB6NIL
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Today's Topics:
> >>>
> >>>    1. Re: experimental reflector irlp (Bryan Fields)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 1
> >>> Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 10:55:08 -0500
> >>> From: Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net>
> >>> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] experimental reflector irlp
> >>> Message-ID: <91bc750a-b1e9-a4a6-a522-0b7e2a02d745 at bryanfields.net>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >>>
> >>> On 2/4/17 10:28 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
> >>> > Can't agree. Mr. Cameron has made his views on that pretty clear. Let
> >>> him have his closed off proprietary sandbox.
> >>>
> >>> Fuck him, it's source code, and code has no politics.  If people want
> to
> >>> use
> >>> it they should be free to do so.  If he wants to ban users from his
> >>> network so
> >>> be it.
> >>>
> >>> More users he bans the faster irlp dies.  I see the irlp channel driver
> >>> as
> >>> being a migration tool.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Bryan Fields
> >>>
> >>> 727-409-1194 - Voice
> >>> http://bryanfields.net
> >>>
> >>>
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