[App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 96, Issue 19

Kirk Just Kirk wb6egr at gmail.com
Mon Feb 6 18:11:18 UTC 2017


Thanks :)  I am still stunned about Jim, things happened VERY quickly.
But the amount of support for this project is simply AMAZING, and very glad
to not only see it continue, but get better/stronger.
A huge thanks for the team!

Kirk
NO7BS (used to be WB6EGR)


On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 9:48 AM, Jeff Carrier <k0jsc.jeff at gmail.com> wrote:

> Good to see you Kirk,
>
> It's been a while but your response is exactly as I would have expected ;)
>
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 10:35 AM, <app_rpt-users-request at lists.
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>>    1. Re: App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 96, Issue 7 (Kirk Just Kirk)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 09:18:12 -0800
>> From: Kirk Just Kirk <wb6egr at gmail.com>
>> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 96, Issue 7
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>> You are not alone! I had numbers 310 and 320 WAY back when. Then we
>> started
>> running IRLP on the same platform and Dave Cameron went NUTS! Remember the
>> threat to yank our PGP keys?
>> Well that was all i needed to hear. I told Cameron to shove my 2 node
>> numbers up his ass (keys included) and never looked back. Nodes 2155-2159
>> were born.
>> IRLP is like cruising in a old "Escort"...running on 3 cylinders, a AM
>> radio that gets 2 stations, no AC, manual windows and a big spring that
>> pokes you in the ass.Does it run? well yeah kinda.
>> Dave Cameron was PISSED! Allstar was cutting in on his ability to sell a
>> SSI-202 chip and a small "peek & Poke" board for $170..and you get a node
>> number tossed in for free...
>> You were not allowed to set it up yourself, one of Daves minnions had to
>> download you, you got treated like the cable company treats you.
>> IRLP changed the ham world like the invention of the automobile, Jim and
>> Steve brought it into the 21st century....enjoy the smooth ride.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 7:50 AM, JJC <cummingsj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I am very turned off of IRLP by the overall attitude of the "team" that
>> > seems against the spirit of Amateur Radio in my opinion.  You contrast
>> that
>> > with Allstar that is opensourced and based on a well know and supported
>> OSS
>> > PBX software with good (positive) community support and participation,
>> > that's enough for me to be very happy.
>> >
>> > Sent from the iRoad
>> >
>> > On Feb 5, 2017, at 19:18, Lu V <luvencl8 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I used IRLP back in the day, but when I started to get flak from one of
>> > his cronies, and I was actually called a lid at one point, that's when I
>> > realized that it was time to move on and make a change towards a real
>> open
>> > source platform which is much more advanced and has great people
>> willing to
>> > help out.. All of the proprietary and political crap that went on on
>> that
>> > network was enough to make one puke! Sorry, I'm just telling you how it
>> was
>> > and the faster I got away from IRLP the better off I was. I don't miss
>> it
>> > at all!
>> >
>> > Lu Vencl
>> >
>> > On Feb 4, 2017, at 13:13, Jeff Carrier <k0jsc.jeff at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Folks will migrate to the better option naturally.  I'm already seeing
>> > that sort of migration here.  I can do a lot more with allstar than any
>> of
>> > the other available options.  Allstar is also actively developed.
>> >
>> > On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 10:00 AM, <app_rpt-users-request at lists.
>> > allstarlink.org> wrote:
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>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Today's Topics:
>> >>
>> >>    1. Re: experimental reflector irlp (Bryan Fields)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> Message: 1
>> >> Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 10:55:08 -0500
>> >> From: Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net>
>> >> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
>> >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] experimental reflector irlp
>> >> Message-ID: <91bc750a-b1e9-a4a6-a522-0b7e2a02d745 at bryanfields.net>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>> >>
>> >> On 2/4/17 10:28 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
>> >> > Can't agree. Mr. Cameron has made his views on that pretty clear. Let
>> >> him have his closed off proprietary sandbox.
>> >>
>> >> Fuck him, it's source code, and code has no politics.  If people want
>> to
>> >> use
>> >> it they should be free to do so.  If he wants to ban users from his
>> >> network so
>> >> be it.
>> >>
>> >> More users he bans the faster irlp dies.  I see the irlp channel
>> driver as
>> >> being a migration tool.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Bryan Fields
>> >>
>> >> 727-409-1194 - Voice
>> >> http://bryanfields.net
>> >>
>> >>
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>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 09:35:13 -0800
>> From: David Shaw <shawpbx at gmail.com>
>> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 96, Issue 7
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>> Kirk do you hate Fords. Can you tell us how you really feel about Fords.
>> LOL "GO Mopar"
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks, David
>>
>> "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither
>> inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for
>> the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to
>> encourage
>> than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater
>> confidence than an armed one."
>> Thomas Jefferson
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 9:18 AM, Kirk Just Kirk <wb6egr at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > You are not alone! I had numbers 310 and 320 WAY back when. Then we
>> > started running IRLP on the same platform and Dave Cameron went NUTS!
>> > Remember the threat to yank our PGP keys?
>> > Well that was all i needed to hear. I told Cameron to shove my 2 node
>> > numbers up his ass (keys included) and never looked back. Nodes
>> 2155-2159
>> > were born.
>> > IRLP is like cruising in a old "Escort"...running on 3 cylinders, a AM
>> > radio that gets 2 stations, no AC, manual windows and a big spring that
>> > pokes you in the ass.Does it run? well yeah kinda.
>> > Dave Cameron was PISSED! Allstar was cutting in on his ability to sell a
>> > SSI-202 chip and a small "peek & Poke" board for $170..and you get a
>> node
>> > number tossed in for free...
>> > You were not allowed to set it up yourself, one of Daves minnions had to
>> > download you, you got treated like the cable company treats you.
>> > IRLP changed the ham world like the invention of the automobile, Jim and
>> > Steve brought it into the 21st century....enjoy the smooth ride.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 7:50 AM, JJC <cummingsj at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I am very turned off of IRLP by the overall attitude of the "team" that
>> >> seems against the spirit of Amateur Radio in my opinion.  You contrast
>> that
>> >> with Allstar that is opensourced and based on a well know and
>> supported OSS
>> >> PBX software with good (positive) community support and participation,
>> >> that's enough for me to be very happy.
>> >>
>> >> Sent from the iRoad
>> >>
>> >> On Feb 5, 2017, at 19:18, Lu V <luvencl8 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I used IRLP back in the day, but when I started to get flak from one of
>> >> his cronies, and I was actually called a lid at one point, that's when
>> I
>> >> realized that it was time to move on and make a change towards a real
>> open
>> >> source platform which is much more advanced and has great people
>> willing to
>> >> help out.. All of the proprietary and political crap that went on on
>> that
>> >> network was enough to make one puke! Sorry, I'm just telling you how
>> it was
>> >> and the faster I got away from IRLP the better off I was. I don't miss
>> it
>> >> at all!
>> >>
>> >> Lu Vencl
>> >>
>> >> On Feb 4, 2017, at 13:13, Jeff Carrier <k0jsc.jeff at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Folks will migrate to the better option naturally.  I'm already seeing
>> >> that sort of migration here.  I can do a lot more with allstar than
>> any of
>> >> the other available options.  Allstar is also actively developed.
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 10:00 AM, <app_rpt-users-request at lists.a
>> >> llstarlink.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Send App_rpt-users mailing list submissions to
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>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at
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>> >>>
>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>> >>> than "Re: Contents of App_rpt-users digest..."
>> >>>
>> >>> This site is dedicated to the memory of Jim Dixon WB6NIL
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Today's Topics:
>> >>>
>> >>>    1. Re: experimental reflector irlp (Bryan Fields)
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>> ----------
>> >>>
>> >>> Message: 1
>> >>> Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 10:55:08 -0500
>> >>> From: Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net>
>> >>> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
>> >>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] experimental reflector irlp
>> >>> Message-ID: <91bc750a-b1e9-a4a6-a522-0b7e2a02d745 at bryanfields.net>
>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>> >>>
>> >>> On 2/4/17 10:28 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
>> >>> > Can't agree. Mr. Cameron has made his views on that pretty clear.
>> Let
>> >>> him have his closed off proprietary sandbox.
>> >>>
>> >>> Fuck him, it's source code, and code has no politics.  If people want
>> to
>> >>> use
>> >>> it they should be free to do so.  If he wants to ban users from his
>> >>> network so
>> >>> be it.
>> >>>
>> >>> More users he bans the faster irlp dies.  I see the irlp channel
>> driver
>> >>> as
>> >>> being a migration tool.
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Bryan Fields
>> >>>
>> >>> 727-409-1194 - Voice
>> >>> http://bryanfields.net
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> ------------------------------
>> >>>
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