[App_rpt-users] Repeater Stuck Locked open for 18 hrs
Tim Sawyer
tisawyer at gmail.com
Wed Apr 25 21:13:19 UTC 2018
“Friends don’t let freinds use USB.” Jim Dixon.
On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 1:24 PM Pierre Martel <petem001 at gmail.com> wrote:
> the trick is to have more then one way to skin the cat. 2 failure at the
> same time is pretty rare, 3 failure even more. the only way I could see
> such great amount of bad luck would be a direct hit from lightning.
>
> take care of your health.
>
>
> 2018-04-24 15:24 GMT-04:00 Loren Tedford <loren at lorentedford.com>:
>
>> Sorry Pierre for being short winded.. Let me get back to you Tuesday..
>> Right at the moment Medical issues and relaxation needs to be my priority
>> up until Surgery on Monday.. But yeah I don’t like pi’s that much but in
>> hind site I understand where your coming from.. I don’t like hardware tot
>> either.. But not sure If I am willing to take the chance on software
>> again..
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyway I will catch every one when I can get back to concentrating on
>> this topic later on..
>>
>>
>>
>> Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV)
>> Phone Main: 1+ (631) 686 – 8878 Option 1
>> Fax: 1-618-551-2755
>> Email: loren at lorentedford.com
>> Email: KC9ZHV at KC9ZHV.com
>> http://www.lorentedford.com
>> http://www.kc9zhv.com
>> http://forum.kc9zhv.com
>> http://hub.kc9zhv.com
>> http://Ltcraft.net
>> http://voipham.com
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>> *From: *Pierre Martel <petem001 at gmail.com>
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, April 24, 2018 2:18 PM
>>
>> *To: *Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
>> *Subject: *Re: [App_rpt-users] Repeater Stuck Locked open for 18 hrs
>>
>>
>>
>> yup I did,
>>
>> Is my post so far off subject for you to ask that question.
>>
>> I use a similar method on my side but on an atmel. when I did the circuit
>> the RPI was not yet available. Of course it does not do as much as the
>> circuit I discribed but it does work. In fact beside the fact that I
>> receive an email from my asterisk system, I usely dont even know that my
>> node was stuck or that a uri was not working properly. Am I lazy.. yup..
>>
>>
>>
>> 2018-04-24 15:10 GMT-04:00 Loren Tedford <loren at lorentedford.com>:
>>
>> Hey Pierre by chance did you get to read the entire thread on this?
>>
>>
>>
>> Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV)
>> Phone Main: 1+ (631) 686 – 8878 Option 1
>> Fax: 1-618-551-2755
>> Email: loren at lorentedford.com
>> Email: KC9ZHV at KC9ZHV.com
>> http://www.lorentedford.com
>> http://www.kc9zhv.com
>> http://forum.kc9zhv.com
>> http://hub.kc9zhv.com
>> http://Ltcraft.net
>> http://voipham.com
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Pierre Martel <petem001 at gmail.com>
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, April 24, 2018 2:08 PM
>> *To: *Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
>>
>> *Subject: *Re: [App_rpt-users] Repeater Stuck Locked open for 18 hrs
>>
>>
>>
>> I really dislike mechanical TOT. Why not use a small RPÏ that can monitor
>> the 2 URI and use it to drive 2 or 3 relay? Those relay could, reset the
>> MB, power off the radios, power off/on the router.
>>
>>
>>
>> A simple circuit that have a phototransistor that drive an input of the
>> rpi would be easy to install, just use 2 small tube that cover the geen
>> led to feed the phototransistor (maybe a simple straw would do!) . pretty
>> sur that just a npn phototransistor could be driven directly with just a
>> small pull up resistor to make the sensing part of the circuit and the rest
>> is just simple coding either in python or in C. Could even had automation
>> like ping fail that reset the router/wifi link. you could even monitor the
>> ASL system for activity and compare the 'software state' to the hardware
>> state.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> 2018-04-24 13:25 GMT-04:00 Loren Tedford <loren at lorentedford.com>:
>>
>> The way it stands at the moment I am not entirely sure… Here is what I
>> found during reinstallation the Memory failed a self check that I ran while
>> putting Windows on it to stress test the machine.. The hard drive doesn’t
>> seem to want to take any data at this point.. But before attempting to
>> format reinstall on this machine the system booted still.. My guess is some
>> thing mechanical could have caused Asterisks to have failed at this point..
>> Honestly it seems to be a bit of a waste of my time to continue working on
>> this machine when I have a second one exact specs sitting here ready to
>> go.. We are doing the just in case TOT timer in the radios and this will
>> affect autopatch users and anyone else that doesn’t let the system fully
>> drop.. This is for my own re assurance that I have to the best of my
>> ability solved the issue..
>>
>>
>>
>> Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV)
>> Phone Main: 1+ (631) 686 – 8878 Option 1
>> Fax: 1-618-551-2755
>> Email: loren at lorentedford.com
>> Email: KC9ZHV at KC9ZHV.com
>> http://www.lorentedford.com
>> http://www.kc9zhv.com
>> http://forum.kc9zhv.com
>> http://hub.kc9zhv.com
>> http://Ltcraft.net
>> http://voipham.com
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com>
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, April 24, 2018 12:14 PM
>> *To: *app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
>> *Subject: *Re: [App_rpt-users] Repeater Stuck Locked open for 18 hrs
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm a little confused, Did Asterisk fail or memory and possibly a
>> motherboard?
>>
>> On 4/24/2018 12:50 PM, Loren Tedford wrote:
>>
>> Well technically it could have been controlled by the two meter repeater
>> had the two meter repeater responded under normal circumstances.. What I am
>> going to do for future repeater operations is to put TOT timers on the
>> radio and I don’t care whether individuals on Autopatch that are calling
>> Emergency services get disconnect etc because of radio tot.. No longer am I
>> going to rely on asterisk to handle the TOT primarly.. Because of this
>> experience.. We now know that we have fried some memory and possibly a
>> motherboard but my testing at this point is stopping.. Moving forward with
>> new gear..
>>
>>
>>
>> We originally turned off the TOT timer in the radios because of scenario
>> involving autopatch and calling during severe weather..
>>
>>
>>
>> Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV)
>> Phone Main: 1+ (631) 686 – 8878 Option 1
>> Fax: 1-618-551-2755
>> Email: loren at lorentedford.com
>> Email: KC9ZHV at KC9ZHV.com
>> http://www.lorentedford.com
>> http://www.kc9zhv.com
>> http://forum.kc9zhv.com
>> http://hub.kc9zhv.com
>> http://Ltcraft.net
>> http://voipham.com
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *DuaneVT . <selkie2 at comcast.net>
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, April 24, 2018 11:46 AM
>> *To: *app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
>> *Subject: *Re: [App_rpt-users] Repeater Stuck Locked open for 18 hrs
>>
>>
>>
>> Radio Control was referenced as "Auxiliary Service".
>>
>>
>>
>> Per *Part 97 : **Sec. 97.201 Auxiliary station*
>>
>> (a) Any amateur station licensed to a holder of a Technician, General,
>> Advanced or Amateur Extra Class operator license may be an auxiliary
>> station. A holder of a Technician, General, Advanced or Amateur Extra Class
>> operator license may be the control operator of an auxiliary station,
>> subject to the privileges of the class of operator license held.
>>
>> (b) An auxiliary station may transmit only on the 2 m and shorter
>> wavelength bands, except the 144.0–144.5 MHz, 145.8–146.0 MHz, 219–220 MHz,
>> 222.00–222.15 MHz, 431–433 MHz, and 435–438 MHz segments.
>>
>> So 2 meters and above now.
>>
>> 73, Duane KA1LM
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