[App_rpt-users] Politics

Mon Sep 17 23:55:41 UTC 2018

It was the helical magnetic loop antenna group on yahoo who was supposedly created by K8NDS.

If I remember correctly it was he that wanted to start a petition with the FCC about some up coming considerations they (the FCC) had

about licensing or something like that.  In a roundabout way he used the no code techs as A blame for the way HF has become.

I don’t remember exactly plus I said what I had to say and dropped the group immediately after that because I didn’t want to hear any justification

of the bad attitude these guy, and im sure many others had about that.

As far as that other group that had emailed me, ill see if I still have the personal email from that group.  I think I was asking this group about the usb fob concerning COR and PTT and then I got

the PM from someone pointing me to that website and how it was much better and asterisk was junk.

Oh well.

Im still here.

Harold

K7ILO

Las Vegas, NV.

Node 27863

From: App_rpt-users <app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org> On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 10:03 PM
To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Politics

Harold, did you get put on moderated status after daring to question the lack of any source code release? I did. No real skin off my nose, but still. 

As for the magnetic loop group, do you mean magloop at yahoogroups? I skim there, generally a pretty decent bunch, but there’s always someone who will try to ruin it for everyone. (Sigh) And so it goes. Sadly, our hobby is a microcosm of society in general; were it not so. 

On Sep 16, 2018, at 7:33 PM, <k7ilo1 at gmail.com <mailto:k7ilo1 at gmail.com> > <k7ilo1 at gmail.com <mailto:k7ilo1 at gmail.com> > wrote:

I don’t know much about them but after going to the website, it reminded me of how I had known about them.

They private emailed me about what they were up to after I hit this post with a question about something that I don’t remember, but that’s besides the point.

The email if I remember correctly was kind of, in a way, hateful toward the asterisk group.

I never pursued their website or anything else about them since.

It really sucks that OUR HOBBY has become this way.  I left the magnetic loop group after expressing my feelings toward something that was said.

It put down all of the people that had joined this hobby during the 90’s when the FCC introduced the no code technician and they bashed the crap out of em.

Which I took personal because Im one of them.

Anyway, I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in about how political and how ham groups bash the other.  What has OUR HOBBY come to?

Harold

K7ILO

Las Vegas, NV.

Node 27863

From: App_rpt-users <app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org <mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org> > On Behalf Of Tim Sawyer
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 2:11 PM
To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org <mailto:app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org> >
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Politics

There has been a ton of inaccurate statements by the HamVoIP principals in numerous posts, emails and telephone calls regarding what AllStarLink is up to. Before you read the rest of this email please take a look at the August 16 post over on hamVoIP.org <http://hamVoIP.org> .

I really don't want to wade into this political BS. I should be coding not spending time on this BS. Even so I've spent tons of time behind the scenes attempting to get folks working together. I hesitate to speak publicly on this but my low key approach has not worked. So, some false statements must be publicly corrected. I will address only this particular post at this time. 

First, "The server" is not owned by one person. The very reason AllStarLink, Inc. was formed is to prevent that scenario. 

Second, there is not just one server. There are numerous servers around the country run by folks that donate their time, effort and money.

Third, HamVoIP principals continually imply that AllStar was unofficially taken over. That's just not true. The reigns were turned as officially as possible given Jim's sudden death. Jim's long time friends and co-developers of AllStar contacted current and past AllStarLink board members and made arrangements for what you see today. 

Additionally, it's true that migration to the new servers didn't go perfectly. But it's extreme unfair to bash individuals who are only attempting to improve AllStar. Ham Radio is about learning if it's about anything. Making mistakes happens as part of the learning process. Now we have a better system and no one got shot as my Marine friend used to say.

The August 16 HamVoIP statements are divisive and only serve to build up some individuals at the expense of others. To HamVoIP principals I say enough of that crap! If you want to build a better mouse trap you are welcome to that. Go for it. But don't justify yourself by speaking badly of others who have nothing but good intentions. 

-- 

Tim WD6AWP

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